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billh58

(6,641 posts)
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 02:56 PM Mar 2018

The best available evidence suggests NRA-backed gun policies are making crime worse

The best available evidence suggests two major National Rifle Association gun policy prescriptions — what are known as “stand your ground” self-defense laws and permissive concealed carry laws — increase homicides and violent crime.

That is according to a massive new study by the RAND Corporation, an independent think tank. The group's experts scoured thousands of academic papers on gun violence in an effort to make definitive statements about how gun policies affect crime and safety. They winnowed that list down to only the highest-quality studies — just 62 in total — containing evidence capable of establishing a causal link between a gun policy change and a specific outcome.

Because the RAND researchers' criteria for including studies in their final analysis were rigorous, for the majority of policies and outcomes, there was not enough good research to make any definitive statements — a clear indication of how little we know about how to prevent gun violence. But there were notable exceptions.

There is moderate evidence, for instance, that “stand your ground” laws, which remove the requirement for gun owners to attempt to retreat from a situation before using lethal force, increase total rates of homicide. A 2013 study, for instance, found that states passing such laws saw 6 percent to 11 percent increases in their total homicide rate. Another study found that Florida experienced a significant 24 percent increase in total homicides and 32 percent increase in firearm homicides following enactment of the stand-your-ground law in 2005.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/02/the-best-available-evidence-suggests-nra-backed-gun-policies-are-making-crime-worse/?utm_term=.181295d6ec07


"Good guys" with guns are illegally killing more people than ever, and the NRA/ILA and their apologists could not be happier.
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The best available evidence suggests NRA-backed gun policies are making crime worse (Original Post) billh58 Mar 2018 OP
It's called lynching DBoon Mar 2018 #1
The hard part of prosecuting these stand your ground cases flamin lib Mar 2018 #2
Trayvon Martin billh58 Mar 2018 #3
Not necessarily. Aristus Mar 2018 #6
Excellent. As someone above said, Stand Your Ground is to protect lynching. George Zimmerman got Hoyt Mar 2018 #4
Exactly. billh58 Mar 2018 #5

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
2. The hard part of prosecuting these stand your ground cases
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 03:03 PM
Mar 2018

is that the only one who could refute claims of credible justification is DEAD.

Aristus

(68,327 posts)
6. Not necessarily.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 04:29 PM
Mar 2018

In a case in Texas a few years ago, the shooter recorded himself during the exchange that lead to the death of his neighbor in a dispute over loud music.

I think he thought it would strengthen his case for a 'Stand Your Ground' acquittal.

He recorded himself saying things like: "I'm standing my ground! I'm in fear for my life!" before murdering his neighbor.

Fortunately, the jury was having none of it, and convicted the bastard.

If someone knows how to post a link to the recording, please do, and thank you.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Excellent. As someone above said, Stand Your Ground is to protect lynching. George Zimmerman got
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 03:11 PM
Mar 2018

off under the very concept. Of course, gunners like to say Trayvon Martin's murder was not a stand your ground case, they forget that the judge gave the jury stand your ground instructions before they began deliberations.

I think "duty to retreat" is a much better approach. The gunners who think that is unmanly will whine, but screw them.

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