Do any of us think NY's new gun laws are extreme or
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Is this what we are aiming to get nationwide, either on the federal level or at least on the state/local level.. I've heard from some that its way over the top. My opinion is its not enough.....
Doc_Technical
(3,599 posts)n/t
Progressive dog
(7,243 posts)Progressive dog
(7,243 posts)I agree that they do not go far enough.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)If you're new to DU, you should know that there is a small but vocal group of DUers that spend all of their time here repeating GOP/NRA talking points about guns. But this is not representative of either DU as a whole or the Democratic party.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)the citizens live differently than in the rural parts of the state.
What do you think is extreme about it?
tosh
(4,447 posts)ellisonz
(27,743 posts)legendleague3
(7 posts)jimmy the one
(2,717 posts)legend league: Good place to start, don't go far enough.
It's not a start, LL, it's a resurgence; .. guncontrol efforts have undergone a slow & difficult path the past 30 years. What we see today is a resurgence of 20th century gun control efforts which were abruptly ended when gwbush was selected president in 2000 by his rightwing supreme court. The election portent came true that if gwbush was elected the nra would have a board member in the white house.
GWBushs supreme court appointments voted rightwing in the 2008 heller decision which effectively hobbled guncontrol efforts, had gore been president no such rightwing decision would've passed. Bush atty gen ashcroft changed the justice opinion of 2ndA from militia to individual rkba. The clinton assault weapon ban was repealed in 2004, & while bush 'said' he wanted to renew it, this was a pretense since he knew it had no chance whatsoever.
drummer: Do any of us think NY's new gun laws are extreme or Is this what we are aiming to get nationwide, either on the federal level or at least on the state/local level.. My opinion is its not enough..
Agree, but there is no state in america with 'extreme' gun laws, just that some states have 'sticter' gun laws than others.
1 Every state should have a child access prevention law (CAP law) which requires safe storage of firearms & ammo & penalties for violation - currently red states tend to dismiss this by citing 'negligence' laws already 'on the books', which tend to be weak & readily skirted or subject to 'gun daddy has already suffered enough that his little son shot sister, how can you be so cruel to want to send him to jail?"
2 One gun per month law would do much to hamper straw purchases & reselling in (bluer) states with stricter gun laws.
3 Assault rifle bans, which western industrialized countries generally enabled years ago, cannot be passed except in a handful of blue states (The 5 states with fuller assault weapon bans contain ~80 million people, or ~26% of US population, but comprise only 10% of the 50 states (CA, CN, MA, NJ, NY, & DC). Tack on 4 more states with limited assault wpn bans (MD, ILL, HA, CO) & up it to 30% of pop (Chicago's 2.5 million has awb but Ill state does not, ditto denver).
4 Hi ammo clip bans should be embraced nationally yet are held hostage by sickminded cowards in the gun lobby, more concerned with personal gun ownership rather than societal benefits of regulating them.
5 CCW laws should be left to state's discretion, yet the national ccw reciprocity bill has near passable approval votes in senate. Hopefully obama would veto any such passage.
There are currently diminishing ways to get past the gun lobby & the mentalilty of the nra & goa who far prefer such laissez faire attitudes on guns & gun responsibility, & fobbing off blame for gun disease, onto the vaccine, guncontrol.