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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:49 AM Nov 2020

To Tell Someone They're Wrong, First Tell Them They're Right

The 17th century philosopher Blaise Pascal is perhaps best known for Pascal’s Wager which, in the first formal use of decision theory, argued that believing in God is the most pragmatic decision. But it seems the French thinker also had a knack for psychology. As Brain Pickings points out, Pascal set out the most effective way to get someone to change their mind, centuries before experimental psychologists began to formally study persuasion:

When we wish to correct with advantage, and to show another that he errs, we must notice from what side he views the matter, for on that side it is usually true, and admit that truth to him, but reveal to him the side on which it is false. He is satisfied with that, for he sees that he was not mistaken, and that he only failed to see all sides. Now, no one is offended at not seeing everything; but one does not like to be mistaken, and that perhaps arises from the fact that man naturally cannot see everything, and that naturally he cannot err in the side he looks at, since the perceptions of our senses are always true.

Pascal added:

People are generally better persuaded by the reasons which they have themselves discovered than by those which have come into the mind of others.

Put simply, Pascal suggests that before disagreeing with someone, first point out the ways in which they’re right. And to effectively persuade someone to change their mind, lead them to discover a counter-point of their own accord. Arthur Markman, psychology professor at The University of Texas at Austin, says both these points hold true.

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To Tell Someone They're Wrong, First Tell Them They're Right (Original Post) Sherman A1 Nov 2020 OP
Doesn't work with people who have no critical thinking skills. DEbluedude Nov 2020 #1
Yes, there is a point of view under which Trump won the election. Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2020 #2
If tRumpers could be reasoned with, they wouldn't be tRumpers. lastlib Nov 2020 #3
Pascal's Wager Updated kairos12 Nov 2020 #4
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2021 #5

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
2. Yes, there is a point of view under which Trump won the election.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:19 AM
Nov 2020

The error in that view is that it assumes that Trump is not a narcissistic, lying piece of shit.

lastlib

(24,972 posts)
3. If tRumpers could be reasoned with, they wouldn't be tRumpers.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:24 AM
Nov 2020

If they were capable of seeing the error of their ways, they wouldn't be tRumpers. When you explain to them the side that they don't see, they call it "fake news." They have already built the wall, and it's in their minds. Nothing gets through it, nothing gets over it, no tunneling under it.

kairos12

(13,298 posts)
4. Pascal's Wager Updated
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:48 AM
Nov 2020

Chump Zombies no longer have to simply believe there might be a God, for behold, he is amongst us--Trump.

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