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okasha

(11,573 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 03:32 PM Aug 2013

Reza Aslan's Zealot: the Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth

If the subject interests you at all, read this book. I ordered it thanks to Fox's attempt to mischaracterize it as "anti-Christian," and can confirm that they were wrong.

Much of the book covers some fairly familiar territory. Aslan sets up the historical context very much as Dominic Crossan does, and agrees with Crossan pretty closely on what is known to be known (almost nothing) and what can be logically inferred from social context (quite a bit) about Jesus' youth and upringing. We can be certain that Jesus came from a poor family in a poor village, that he and his father and probably his brothers, found work as tektons (construction workers) in Sepphoris, and that Jesus was originally a disciple of John the Baptizer. One can infer from the names of Mary's and Joseph's sons that the family was nationalist and had no sympathy either with the Romans or with the wealthy upper classes who collaborated with them. This would include the religious establishment of the day, from the High Priest down to the tax farmers and other governmental bean-counters. The difference between Aslan and Crossan on these points is mainly one of style. Crossan is hard slogging and tends to get entangled in details. Aslan's style is readily accessible, even slangy in a few places, and his narrative moves along at a good clip.

Where they differ is on the purpose and effect of Paul. Crossan once noted that commenters on his work tend to regard Paul as either "an appealing Apostle" or "an appalling Apostle." Crossan finds him appealing. Aslan falls into the "appalling" camp. He argues that the religion preached by Paul had next to nothing in common with the actual message or purpose of Jesus. (James Tabor has taken a similar position in his recent Paul and Jesus.) It is in clarifying the depth of that distinction that Aslan's book makes its most original contribution. I've never before seen the rift between Paul and the Jerusalem church led by Jesus' brother James, Peter and John so vividly set out. For this section alone, book would be well-worth the read.

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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
1. Thanks for the review, okasha.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 04:38 PM
Aug 2013

I think the fox interview catapulted this book in a way that wouldn't have otherwise happened.

The Paul debate interests me and really changes the way one might read the new testament.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
5. If you're interested in the debate about Paul,
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 04:58 PM
Aug 2013

I think you might also find the Tabor book worth reading. He defines the questions really well. His conclusions are similar to Aslan's, but not quite so decisively stated, IMO.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. I'm about to spend 4 days with my father all to myself.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 05:33 PM
Aug 2013

He's a theologian and a scholar, so I might ask him to teach me some of what he knows about this area.

He loves to teach and it could be a great thing for the both of us.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
2. As I understand it, he dismisses those claims that Jesus did not exist and focuses on his life.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 06:02 PM
Aug 2013

okasha

(11,573 posts)
3. He briefly reviews the early
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 06:12 PM
Aug 2013

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extra-biblical textual evidence, including the two undisputed mentions of Jesus in Josephus, then gets right down focusing on his life. I don't recall that he even mentions the assertion that Jesus didn't exist. If he does, it's so casually and in passing that it didn't register.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Good of you to provide this overview; it helps to hear a synopsis that isn't loaded with hype. nt
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 05:36 AM
Aug 2013
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