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Josephine McKenna
VATICAN CITY (RNS) China has reacted cautiously to a bid by Pope Francis to open new dialogue with Beijing, with some officials quick to warn the Vatican not to interfere with the countrys religion.
Catholic Church of the Saviour, also called Xishiku Church or Beitang, in the Xicheng District in Beijing, China. Photo courtesy of Fotokon via Shutterstock
On his return flight from a five-day tour of South Korea, Francis said he was ready to go to China For sure! Tomorrow! after receiving a positive response to two goodwill telegrams he sent to President Xi Jinping as the pope flew over Chinese airspace.
http://www.religionnews.com/2014/08/20/china-responds-pope-francis-tells-interfere-religion/
rug
(82,333 posts)Does the People's Republic of China now have a state religion?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Btw I am staying away from the other room today. I just need some space from it.
Won't be long but some went too far and they don't recognize that they did for the most part.
rug
(82,333 posts)Take your time. Some of them are there just for the sport. When they're losing, they get nastier. I could fill a level teaspoon with the sincerity of those posters.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I never felt so unwelcomed there before.
And the line that if we defend ourselves against the delusion claim we are showing our privilege was just priceless.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Either all beliefs are equally valid or no beliefs are valid at all. Either we except the suicides at Jonestown as legitimate religious practice or we have to condemn the local non-denominational Church as delusional.
Bryant
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)get believers to abandon their faith.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)They might use different terms, and will deny it when asked, but of course that's their goal in some cases. If you believe religion to be pirmarily a source of evil, it just makes sense that you would want to get people to be less religious.
It drives me nuts when a few of them - particularly dishonest ones - suggest "We just want to raise awareness of how religion can impact politics." So very disingenuous. As if in 90% of the cases believers aren't on the same page. There's only a few minor areas of disagreement politically, and yet it's necessary for them to bring into the religion forum continuous attacks on DU Believers. The goal is to belittle and minimize the practice of religion and belief.
Bryant
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Some seem to think all believers are alike and we believe alike.
And you do not see believers trying to convert others.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)It would be completely inappropriate.
okasha
(11,573 posts)is a form of self-aggrandizement. It's not even really the big-fish-in-a-little pond syndrome. It's more like guppies who've convinced themselves that they're barracudas.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)The difference is that our beliefs allow us to respect those who think differently than we do.
But they do have a point when it comes to society as a whole.
Bryant
okasha
(11,573 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)especially among fundamentalists. But there is very little outright discrimination or persecution comparable to what LGBT's, Jews and Muslims, and people of color have experienced.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Between a Primitive Baptist and Teilhard de Chardin.