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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:46 AM Mar 2015

My church just burned down...

Nothing in any news so far but around midnight I was heading home from something else in the neighborhood and saw a few emergency vehicles heading the other way. By the time I got home I found out it was my church and it is a total loss.

No fights, arguments, hassles, enemies or other reasons to think of foul play. It just sucks. Really, really sucks.

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My church just burned down... (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 OP
How awful for you and the whole congregation, my dear TreasonousBastard... CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #1
Nothing going on at midnight... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #2
Thanks. No known cause yet, but the investigators aren't finished. TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #16
I feel for you and your fellow parishioners. TexasProgresive Mar 2015 #3
If the other churches do reach out, I hope it is accepted. Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2015 #4
Our Catholic parish is the newest in a small town. TexasProgresive Mar 2015 #5
That is saddening... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #8
I am so sorry! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #6
We're already planning on the rebuilding... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #17
Here's a pic... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #7
How positively awful! ColesCountyDem Mar 2015 #9
Check out insurance. Your... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #19
We just renewed. ColesCountyDem Mar 2015 #26
Really sorry to hear your news goldent Mar 2015 #10
We may never know, but we're UUs and don't... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #25
So sorry for such bad news. Is there insurance coverage? No Vested Interest Mar 2015 #11
The good news is that we're very well insured through... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #18
That's too bad - hopefully they can rebuild. nt el_bryanto Mar 2015 #12
We're already working on it. TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #20
I'm so very sorry, TreasonousBastars. okasha Mar 2015 #13
I think we're just a local landmark and won't... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #21
Man, I'm sorry to hear about that. kentauros Mar 2015 #14
Community is solidly behind us. TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #22
a rare treasure, a loss to the community and nation carolinayellowdog Mar 2015 #15
Thanks. We had a few treasures that can't be replaced... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #23
An update... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #24
You and your fellow members will make something very good No Vested Interest Mar 2015 #28
How tragic. My sympathies go out to you. cbayer Mar 2015 #27

CaliforniaPeggy

(152,069 posts)
1. How awful for you and the whole congregation, my dear TreasonousBastard...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:05 AM
Mar 2015

Was there work being done? Perhaps an electrical spark or short of some kind was to blame.

But whatever the reason, you're right: this really really sucks.

I'm so sorry.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. Nothing going on at midnight...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:13 AM
Mar 2015

the only thing I can think of is some basement flooding from rain and snowmelt that may have cause a short somewhere.

But, whatever, an over 200 year old landmark just went "poof".

Big shock to a bunch of people when they get up later.

TexasProgresive

(12,285 posts)
3. I feel for you and your fellow parishioners.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:33 AM
Mar 2015

May this terrible event draw the people of this faith community closer to one another and closer to our Lord. May the other churches reach out with loving support.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
4. If the other churches do reach out, I hope it is accepted.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 06:22 AM
Mar 2015

I belong to a Catholic parish. A Baptist church was being built just down the street, and caught fire just before it was completed. My pastor had a second collection taken up the next Sunday, specifically to help the Baptists rebuild. Somewhat over a thousand dollars was collected, and a check was given to the Baptist minister. Apparently, the board of deacons had a fierce debate over whether to accept money from Catholics, and in the end the check was returned. My pastor put the money into the parish building fund.

TexasProgresive

(12,285 posts)
5. Our Catholic parish is the newest in a small town.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 06:32 AM
Mar 2015

We had no building of our own. We attended Mass in various churches in town- 2 Southern Baptist, I UMC and 1 non-denomination. The only ones who didn't welcome us were the Church of Christ (not to be confused with the United Church of Christ). You just never know, sometimes people change. This town 50 years ago was noted for being universally anti-Catholic.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. That is saddening...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 08:23 AM
Mar 2015

it's not just the money-- it's the insult to a helping hand that none of us should be guilty of.

Catholics, Jews, atheists, the Christian Scientists up the road... Pretty much anyone reaching out to us in common grief and we only feel gratitude.

(We won't even draw the line at Republicans)

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
6. I am so sorry!
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 06:57 AM
Mar 2015

This happened to my parish in the early 80's and it was devastating but the parish rebuilt.

All you can do is be with your friends and fellow parishioners and plan to rebuild.


I am so sorry.

ColesCountyDem

(6,944 posts)
9. How positively awful!
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:42 AM
Mar 2015

I am so very sorry, TB. What is now a reality for you remains a nightmare possibility for me. My church will be 175 years-old next year, and my only real fear for us is it burning.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
19. Check out insurance. Your...
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 02:58 PM
Mar 2015

denomination may have a plan for decent cheap coverage. We got ours through a UU program that seems to be part of a larger program, but I'm still digging through it.

ColesCountyDem

(6,944 posts)
26. We just renewed.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:53 PM
Mar 2015

Our denomination uses a brokerage to obtain group rates. We were required to submit an appraisal of our own, and the insurance company did one of their own. Fortunately, we agreed on the amounts for structure and contents.

goldent

(1,582 posts)
10. Really sorry to hear your news
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:50 PM
Mar 2015

Hopefully it can be determined what caused it - I think that would help people deal with it, and focus on what to do next.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
25. We may never know, but we're UUs and don't...
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:15 PM
Mar 2015

have to have all the facts to deal with life. Sometimes it's better not to have them.

No Vested Interest

(5,196 posts)
11. So sorry for such bad news. Is there insurance coverage?
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:07 PM
Mar 2015

I've never really given much thought to the possibilities of a church being destroyed, but obviously, those more involved in the fiduciary matters think those things through.
Was the church made of wooden construction? With the church being so old, I'm thinking that's likely.

I'm confident other congregations and perhaps even some civic organizations will reach out and make a place and time for your congregation to meet.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
18. The good news is that we're very well insured through...
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 02:55 PM
Mar 2015

some large church program. And, yes, we've gotten a lot of support.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
13. I'm so very sorry, TreasonousBastars.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 07:45 PM
Mar 2015

I hope you'll be able to rebuild without too much difficulty. If your church had historic landmark status, grant funding may be available.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
21. I think we're just a local landmark and won't...
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:00 PM
Mar 2015

have much funding. Insurance coverage is good, though, so we won't be in that much trouble.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
14. Man, I'm sorry to hear about that.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:16 PM
Mar 2015

I do hope your community comes together for you, and you're able to get something built again.

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
15. a rare treasure, a loss to the community and nation
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 02:17 PM
Mar 2015

Any church of that era is historically significant, but Universalist churches are rare which makes this especially sad. My condolences and good wishes for rebuilding.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
23. Thanks. We had a few treasures that can't be replaced...
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:03 PM
Mar 2015

for any amount of money, but we have the memory of them.

And we're planning on rebuilding pretty close to the old plans.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
24. An update...
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:13 PM
Mar 2015

I'm a trustee of the church and also a trustee of another nonprofit up the road from it. I did some quick calling and by 3AM announced I got the rest of the other board to agree to let the church use that building for services for a while.

By 10AM Sunday we had a line waiting for me to open up and we had the biggest attendance we've had in a while. Everyone was saddened, but upbeat at how everything was falling in place. The fire department (volunteer and fantastic) saved the charred and blackened bell that fell from the tower and dropped it off to great appreciation.

We're in good shape with insurance and energized to rebuild.

A lot of events, mostly secular, took place in the old church, and we just spent a bundle on new floors and organ repairs, so there's that disappointment. And groups who used or rented our space will have to find new spaces for a while. But it will all work out in the end.

No Vested Interest

(5,196 posts)
28. You and your fellow members will make something very good
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:15 PM
Mar 2015

come from this tragedy.
You have lost something dear to you.

Now the possibilities of looking forward will present opportunities that you might not have imagined.
Congratulations for moving ahead and moving on so quickly.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
27. How tragic. My sympathies go out to you.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:12 PM
Mar 2015

When I was a teenager, someone intentionally set fire to our church. My father, the minister, was actively working with gangs at the time and one of the members was pretty over the top.

Fortunately, the church was primarily made of stone and survived, but the smell lingered for a very, very long time.

I hope that you will rebuild soon and successfully.

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