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Uncle Joe

(65,406 posts)
Sun May 3, 2026, 11:48 PM 5 hrs ago

Why Movies Just Don't Feel "Real" Anymore



Why don't movies feel "real" anymore? A deep dive into the first principles of movie immersion: on perceptual realism, indexicality, haptic visuality, and cinematic qualia.

0:00 Movies don't feel "real" anymore
1:40 Perceptual Realism
8:40 The "Cinematic Look"
12:50 Indexicality
15:50 Haptic Visuality
23:00 Cinematic Qualia
26:29 Contextual Intentionality
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Why Movies Just Don't Feel "Real" Anymore (Original Post) Uncle Joe 5 hrs ago OP
I grew up with the old style special effects. Permanut 4 hrs ago #1
Harryhausen is a film 'god'. blm 4 hrs ago #2
If you want unreal special effects, I recommend "The Train" starring Burt Lancaster. AZ8theist 2 hrs ago #3
The 1998 film Dil Se Dear_Prudence 1 hr ago #4

Permanut

(8,518 posts)
1. I grew up with the old style special effects.
Sun May 3, 2026, 11:59 PM
4 hrs ago

Ray Harryhausen - Earth vs. The Flying Saucers;

John P. Fulton - Frankenstein,

and the Lydecker Brothers, many Republic serials including Radar Men From the Moon.

All of their work was done on film, and I still love to watch them.

AZ8theist

(7,553 posts)
3. If you want unreal special effects, I recommend "The Train" starring Burt Lancaster.
Mon May 4, 2026, 02:32 AM
2 hrs ago

A John Frankenheimer directed black and white WWII action film from 1964, featured ACTUAL TRAINS being wrecked.
Spectacular multi camera shots of the crashes were simply incredible.

No CGI, no AI, just actual trains being crashed on purpose. They also used real dynamite to blow up a rail yard to simulate an allied bombing raid. The French Railways needed to upgrade the yard to a new gauge, so allowed it to be blown up for the film.

Well worth a watch.

Dear_Prudence

(1,187 posts)
4. The 1998 film Dil Se
Mon May 4, 2026, 03:37 AM
1 hr ago

Features a Bollywood dance scene atop an actual moving train, with no camera tricks or post-production manipulation. The star, Shahrukh Khan (SRK) wore no harness; it is unclear whether any of the dancers had safety equipment. The spectacular shots of the train moving thru the mountainous countryside of southern India, the dizzying shots of the group dancers, and the tactile closeups of SRK and Malaika Arora make this scene cinamatic gold. I do question the ethics of exposing actors to such danger in pursuit of art, however. Had there been casualties, the scene would not be so enjoyable, right? Thank you Uncle Joe for posting this interesting analysis. If anyone would like to check out the video, "srk dancing on top of a train" https://share.google/OLfqJX5o1IcOfHv1k

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