Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

merrily

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Let's also remember that the opposite of progress is congress. Xipe Totec Aug 2015 #1

Good one! merrily Aug 2015 #2

The media can twist any term to suit their agenda. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #3

I'll get there with more posts. Right now, I'm only at 1790 A.D.! merrily Aug 2015 #4

From my perspective, the problem with progress, as an American iemitsu Aug 2015 #5

Well, a flushing toilet vs. an outhouse was considered progress. merrily Aug 2015 #6

Flushing toilets are a good thing iemitsu Aug 2015 #7

Not many counted outhouses as part of our material possessions, either. That was my point. merrily Aug 2015 #8

Xipe Totec

(44,063 posts)

1. Let's also remember that the opposite of progress is congress.

Reply to merrily (Original post)

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:49 PM

Aug 2015

merrily

(45,251 posts)

2. Good one!

Reply to Xipe Totec (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:52 PM

Aug 2015

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)

3. The media can twist any term to suit their agenda.

Reply to merrily (Original post)

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:31 PM

Aug 2015

As we have seen.

merrily

(45,251 posts)

4. I'll get there with more posts. Right now, I'm only at 1790 A.D.!

Reply to Enthusiast (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:34 PM

Aug 2015

but, who needs media?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4339292

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024747872

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025787400

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026056601

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026982708

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026035424

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024449907

And on and on and on.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)

5. From my perspective, the problem with progress, as an American

Reply to merrily (Original post)

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:39 PM

Aug 2015

political goal, is that progress is always tied to material gain.
Our lives are not necessarily improved because we have more stuff.

merrily

(45,251 posts)

6. Well, a flushing toilet vs. an outhouse was considered progress.

Reply to iemitsu (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 01:45 PM

Aug 2015

Probably cut down on typhoid, to name just one.

On the other hand, it killed Boston Harbor.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)

7. Flushing toilets are a good thing

Reply to merrily (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:47 PM

Aug 2015

but how many of us actually count them as part of our material possessions?
They have become standard equipment in American homes. It was progress to install them in homes. Electricity the same. Perhaps even the first radios and televisions. But second and third televisions do not improve our lives.
At least not in my opinion.

merrily

(45,251 posts)

8. Not many counted outhouses as part of our material possessions, either. That was my point.

Reply to iemitsu (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:50 PM

Aug 2015

The period of the Idea of Progress was 1620s to 1780s. It was not about cell phones or multiple TVs.