Cannabis

Gregorian

(23,867 posts) Fri Apr 17, 2015, 02:07 PM Apr 2015

Huge benefits of dietary cannabinoids. (Yay new group!)

http://www.rawhemp.tk/

Here's a quote from the article by a local doctor friend of mine who is a leading authority on dietary cannabis.

Dr. Courtney and his wife Kristen began juicing cannabis after experimenting with raw cannabis. For many years, Kristen struggled with systemic lupus. When her condition improved dramatically following several weeks of saturating with raw cannabis, they were convinced they had discovered a cure for chronic illness. Kristen shares, "You wouldn't consider a Diabetic addicted to Insulin. I have an Endogenous Cannabinoid Deficiency. When I drink the leaf, I feel more attentive, more awake. I can breathe better. I don't get heartburn or stomach pain, or feel muscle weakness or lower back or pelvic pain. By eating it, I am able to saturate much more so than I could. Even if I was smoking all day long, I wouldn't be able to saturate as heavily as I can juicing. I think the anti-fungal and anti-bacterial which is CBN, and the THCA and Cannabidiol are all helpful. But I think, more importantly, it is the interplay of all the cannabinoids together that causes the most benefit. That when you isolate each one and take it alone, or take it as a pure synthetic it can't have the benefits. It doesn't have the same effects that they all have together. I thought: How does everyone not know about this. I felt right then and there my focus in life had to be helping other people in my same situation to get this information to use as well."

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Huge benefits of dietary cannabinoids. (Yay new group!) (Original Post) Gregorian Apr 2015 OP

And another article on the subject Gregorian Apr 2015 #1

They were my inspiration to begin to heal myself. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #2

Wow, same here. Gregorian Apr 2015 #6

I have systemic lupus. I heard a little bit about eating raw cannabis on Thom Hartmann. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #3

Try starting here with CBD. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #4

Thanks DeSwiss, for the info. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #10

If you know any growers waddirum Apr 2015 #22

link does not work shireen Apr 2015 #31

My dispensory has high CBD content buds. Each week or so they have a different variety. Gregorian Apr 2015 #5

The local dispensary doesn't test for thc or cbd content. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #7

Eating raw cannabis Pastiche423 Apr 2015 #8

Thanks Pastiche. I give the rub a try. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #11

THC and CBD, along with the other cannabinoids, can work together in a very complimentary way eShirl Apr 2015 #19

THC also has many healing properties waddirum Apr 2015 #23

Burp... geologic Apr 2015 #9

you definitely need to cut it with carrot juice waddirum Apr 2015 #24

I don't know anything about juicing, have never juiced, so Pathwalker Apr 2015 #12

Has to be fresh... geologic Apr 2015 #13

addendumb: geologic Apr 2015 #14

Okay. Thank you for responding. Pathwalker Apr 2015 #15

Yes you can: geologic Apr 2015 #17

Some Pharmacies/Co-ops supposedly carry juice-- geologic Apr 2015 #18

addendumb too: geologic Apr 2015 #16

Stems and all? Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #20

...for the juicer, yes... geologic Apr 2015 #21

Edibles are better even for non-medical purposes IMO. n/t eridani Apr 2015 #25

Just be sure I understand, they're saying benefits Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #26

any form of cannabis has benefits eShirl Apr 2015 #28

Raw plant Gregorian Apr 2015 #29

Are they present in hemp milk and hemp seeds? Sanity Claws Apr 2015 #27

I don't think so. It's the oils that the plant contains that are in a sufficient concentration. Gregorian Apr 2015 #30

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)

1. And another article on the subject

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 02:25 PM

Apr 2015

http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/juicing-raw-cannabis-eating-raw-cannabis/

Juicing is working because it provides the cannabinoid acids, which are potent compounds that help regulate the endocannabinoid system in ways not fully understood just yet. When you juice properly, you consume almost no THC or CBD, it is all THCA and CBDA! That is why you don’t receive any psychoactive effects.

Argh, I can't find the article that goes into the biology of how cannabinoids regulate important functions in the body.

When I talked with Dr. Courtney recently he claimed that many people are sick today due to cannabinoid deficiency. In other words, we used to eat the plant in our natural environment. .And now that we have ceased doing so, we're experiencing all kinds of ailments.

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)

2. They were my inspiration to begin to heal myself.

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 05:15 PM

Apr 2015

- After several years of declining health (due to being a Type-A person who worked like a goddamned fool and destroyed my body in the process), and my frustrations with the existing medical system in its inability to ''fix'' me, I fired them all and begin this journey I'm on now.

So far, so good. I'm much better.

K&R

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)

6. Wow, same here.

Reply to DeSwiss (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:20 PM

Apr 2015

Got a degree in mechanical engineering, and was never the same. So stressed and serious about surviving the university ordeal. Then came 20 years of other stressors. Fatigue, headaches. Now 25 years later, I'm finally pulling it together.

Thanks for the videos and links.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)

3. I have systemic lupus. I heard a little bit about eating raw cannabis on Thom Hartmann.

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 05:16 PM

Apr 2015

What type would be most beneficial? I can't stand the high from pot these days, it's too strong for me.

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)

4. Try starting here with CBD.

Reply to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 05:25 PM

Apr 2015

LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS & Cannabis studies completed

CBD Info -- More CBD Info

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)

10. Thanks DeSwiss, for the info.

Reply to DeSwiss (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:01 PM

Apr 2015

I learned a lot from the videos. The hemp oil is quite expensive. I'm leaning towards juicing daily. I did wheatgrass for years.

waddirum

(991 posts)

22. If you know any growers

Reply to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:07 PM

Apr 2015

ask for the fan leaves that they would normally throw out.

shireen

(8,337 posts)

31. link does not work

Reply to DeSwiss (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 22, 2015, 02:58 PM

Apr 2015

Could you please dbl check the url for "LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS & Cannabis studies completed" -- i have Lupus and am very interested in reading the research on cannabis as treatment for lupus.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)

5. My dispensory has high CBD content buds. Each week or so they have a different variety.

Reply to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:18 PM

Apr 2015

Make sure they have actually tested the content because we just found out the one I've been taking wasn't that high. So I'm now using another variety.

Ironically, the dispensaries are geared toward getting high, and employees often look confused when I ask for buds to ingest.

Also, my dispensary just began selling juiced leaves. I'm drinking that every day now.

It's so weird because I got my card in order to start getting high after a 12 year haitus, and realized it just didn't work for me anymore. Oh well, it was a grand forty years of getting high and living in prohibition times. Exciting and fun, and busted.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)

7. The local dispensary doesn't test for thc or cbd content.

Reply to Gregorian (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:35 PM

Apr 2015

I will need to find an MMJ doc here, New Mexico, and get a card. I have a juicer was juicing wheatgrass, but I have a black thumb :-/

Same same on the high, back in the early to mid seventies I was fun, I would laugh and be creative. Now it makes me comatose, even a teeny bit.

Pastiche423

(15,406 posts)

8. Eating raw cannabis

Reply to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:52 PM

Apr 2015

will not make you high. In order to get the high, cannabis must be heated.

As stated already, a plant with more CBD is more medically beneficial. CBD is for healing, while THC gets you high.

For muscle/joint pain, rub cannabis oil (or Love Potion, as I call it) in your skin. You'll be amazed how much it helps.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)

11. Thanks Pastiche. I give the rub a try.

Reply to Pastiche423 (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:03 PM

Apr 2015

eShirl

(18,792 posts)

19. THC and CBD, along with the other cannabinoids, can work together in a very complimentary way

Reply to Pastiche423 (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 18, 2015, 09:30 AM

Apr 2015

It can vary from individual to individual, for various conditions and illnesses

waddirum

(991 posts)

23. THC also has many healing properties

Reply to Pastiche423 (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:09 PM

Apr 2015

beyond the euphoric (or dysphoric) effects.

geologic

(205 posts)

9. Burp...

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:58 PM

Apr 2015

...the juice tastes horrible;
some sortta extract is called for,
it doesn't have to be decarboxylated--
so it can be made with no "psycho-activity"...

waddirum

(991 posts)

24. you definitely need to cut it with carrot juice

Reply to geologic (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:10 PM

Apr 2015

or something else that's sweet.

Pathwalker

(6,602 posts)

12. I don't know anything about juicing, have never juiced, so

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:03 PM

Apr 2015

how can I possibly do this? I only have access to the dried leaf, the video shows them using fresh-would that work?
Thank you for this - I had no idea. I just love learning.

geologic

(205 posts)

13. Has to be fresh...

Reply to Pathwalker (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:39 PM

Apr 2015

...with a special kinda juicer (screw-type)...

geologic

(205 posts)

14. addendumb:

Reply to geologic (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:46 PM

Apr 2015

> "screw-type" <juicer>
< masticating <juicer>...

Pathwalker

(6,602 posts)

15. Okay. Thank you for responding.

Reply to geologic (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:54 PM

Apr 2015

That's not going to be something I can do then. I can't grow my own, so that just won't be possible. Thank you, anyway- now I know.

geologic

(205 posts)

17. Yes you can:

Reply to Pathwalker (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 08:00 PM

Apr 2015

...you can make yer own extracts outta what you've got--
and you don't have to decarboxylate 'em if you don't wanna get high...

geologic

(205 posts)

18. Some Pharmacies/Co-ops supposedly carry juice--

Reply to Pathwalker (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 18, 2015, 09:20 AM

Apr 2015

maybe they figured out a way to mask the taste these days...

geologic

(205 posts)

16. addendumb too:

Reply to geologic (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 17, 2015, 07:56 PM

Apr 2015

...and that would be the "whole plant marterial"
["google" that]
not some stripped-down "CBD miracle"...

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)

20. Stems and all?

Reply to geologic (Reply #16)

Sat Apr 18, 2015, 03:47 PM

Apr 2015

geologic

(205 posts)

21. ...for the juicer, yes...

Reply to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 18, 2015, 04:33 PM

Apr 2015

Last edited Tue Apr 21, 2015, 12:11 PM - Edit history (1)

... but I was obliquely referring there to states that are allowing CBD-only extracts--
when there is much evidence that all the cannabanoids have a synergistic relationship...

Taming Thc: Potential Cannabis Synergy And Phytocannabinoid-terpenoid Entourage Effects
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3165946/
http://www.fundacion-canna.es/en/cannabinoids
http://www.hempfood.com/IHA/iha01201.html

eridani

(51,907 posts)

25. Edibles are better even for non-medical purposes IMO. n/t

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:40 AM

Apr 2015

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)

26. Just be sure I understand, they're saying benefits

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:54 AM

Apr 2015

simply from the plant juiced, not all that mucking around with heating and oils people who talk about THC-active consumables are saying?

eShirl

(18,792 posts)

28. any form of cannabis has benefits

Reply to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #26)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:07 AM

Apr 2015

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)

29. Raw plant

Reply to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #26)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:10 PM

Apr 2015

According to Dr. Courtney, the cannabis plant evolved right along side the human being, and has benefits that are vital to a number of processes in the human body. In other words, it's actually necessary for our health.

It's like any plant or vegetable in that whole is better, and raw is best.

Sanity Claws

(22,038 posts)

27. Are they present in hemp milk and hemp seeds?

Reply to Gregorian (Original post)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:02 AM

Apr 2015

Those items are available in states regardless of the status of MJ legalization. It would be great to get the benefits of cannabinoids so easily.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)

30. I don't think so. It's the oils that the plant contains that are in a sufficient concentration.

Reply to Sanity Claws (Reply #27)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:12 PM

Apr 2015

I don't think the seeds cut it. And I also say that because if you tried to smoke seeds, they wouldn't get you high. There isn't enough THCA in them.

Whole plant, fresh plant.

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