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Susan Calvin

(2,097 posts)
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 12:37 AM Mar 2018

Oh lay off Bernie.

I am posting this here because I do not wish to cause annoyance for myself, but still...

Bernie is an FDR Dem, regardless of stated affiliation.

Yeah, I know about FDR's drastic mistakes.

We move on and do the best we can.

Bernie is in better shape than I am; I am many years younger.

Yes, I know we have an unfortunate binary system. Hope to fix it.

I have been banned from both the Hillary group (by my request) and the Bernie group (stupidly, IMHO) in the past.

Please lay off Bernie, and other contenders.

Que sera, sera.

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Oh lay off Bernie. (Original Post) Susan Calvin Mar 2018 OP
Your post is sensible but futile. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #1
Calls to mind the old Nader drive-by's that became common place here. nt Snotcicles Mar 2018 #2
I see an important difference. Jim Lane Mar 2018 #3
Exactly. nt Susan Calvin Mar 2018 #4
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
1. Your post is sensible but futile.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 03:43 AM
Mar 2018

There is a large contingent on DU that will simply never lay off Bernie. Oh, well, I guess everyone should have a hobby.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
3. I see an important difference.
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 10:58 AM
Mar 2018

There is a serious question for progressives to address: If we find ourselves to the left of the Democratic Party establishment, should we try to move the party to the left, or abandon it and work with a minor party?

Nader chose the latter option. He can reasonably be criticized by those who think he made the wrong choice. In fact, I'm one of those. If he had run in the Democratic primaries, I would have voted for him, but with Nader running in the general election as a Green, I voted for Gore. Furthermore, if Nader had chosen to exercise his right to run in the primaries, Gore would probably have become President, and the country and the world would have been better off.

The bashing of Nader was at times intemperate but the underlying substantive criticism of him was correct.

The attacks on Bernie, of course, have no such justification. He did what Nader should have done. The people who denounce him because he dared to run in a primary against their chosen candidate are saying that progressives shouldn't run in Democratic primaries and that progressives shouldn't run in the general election. This amounts to saying that we should just STFU. It's fundamentally bone-headed.

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