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as working poor, who do you believe will change your life after one debate (Original Post) w0nderer Oct 2015 OP
Gotta go with Bernie. Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #1
ok specific reasons or dont wanna share? w0nderer Oct 2015 #2
Okay first Student debt Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #3
*chuckle* w0nderer Oct 2015 #4
I'm not poor now, but I haven't lost my deep cynicism gained painfully over 40 years Warpy Oct 2015 #5
NONE OF THEM napi21 Oct 2015 #6
Well put uppityperson Oct 2015 #7
Bernie Kalidurga Oct 2015 #8
I believe we have the best chance with Bernie NV Whino Oct 2015 #9
Gotta go with Bernie... Melurkyoulongtime Oct 2015 #10
You can probably guess from my signature, ladyVet Oct 2015 #11
I think it's pretty clear LWolf Oct 2015 #12
welcome to the group (if you joined or not) :-) w0nderer Oct 2015 #13

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
3. Okay first Student debt
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:45 AM
Oct 2015

I got 36,000 (+) in student debt, I could use a hand with that.
I'm disabled (cancer survivor, the long term effects of chemo caught up with me 1/2 through my Associates degree). After paying disability insurance for 30(+) years, I need it and want it to continue.
I want Universal Health Care. In the form of single payer of completely socialized medicine.
I want climate change to be aggressively attacked. My children and grandchildren deserve the chance to live as long as I have.

That's my short list

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
4. *chuckle*
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:54 AM
Oct 2015

i wanna live in sweden but i'll settle for US under Bernie

thanks HCM
not all of is WP have time to check it all out so a 'cut down version helps'

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
5. I'm not poor now, but I haven't lost my deep cynicism gained painfully over 40 years
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:56 AM
Oct 2015

built up since 1969, over most of my working life, after liberals went out of power and I became poor. Sanders has cracked through enough of it that I'll be casting my vote for him in the primary. He's already managed to shove Clinton to the left on some issues and a good showing by him in the primaries, even if he doesn't win, will chart the course the party will need to take unless it wants to become as big a joke as the Republicans are.

I do know the last thing anyone needs is another Third Way administration, no matter what the party power brokers think they're going to foist on us. There is only so long they can expect us to work for starvation wages, with piss poor services and a crumbling infrastructure while they shovel money into the bottomless maws of the rich. I think we're just about at that point now.

Don't get me wrong here, I'm one of those yellow dog Democrats and have been since Ronny gave his party to the lunatics in the wingnut churches. I'll vote for whatever stiff the PTB offers us.

I'm just counting on Sanders to let them know we're sick of being suckers, we're sick of being robbed of the fruits of our labor, and we're sick of seeing our country falling apart around us.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
6. NONE OF THEM
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:20 AM
Oct 2015

Unless they get a Democratic Senate and a far less conservative House. It would be much easier with a Dem. controlled House, but that would be some kind of miracle!

IF we can get Dems in control, I think either Bernie or Hillary would do a lot to help the middle class .

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
8. Bernie
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 03:10 AM
Oct 2015

he isn't telling us he will change our lives. He is telling us we will change our lives. We the people have the power. I like him believe there is a lot of power in the numbers. If we demand our rights we will get them. If we continue to elevate the rights of the rich to strip us of our resources, our youth, and our political might; we will continue to suffer the consequences and the world just dies a little more or a lot.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
9. I believe we have the best chance with Bernie
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:48 AM
Oct 2015

I was able to stream only a short segment at the beginning. But within that time Hillary was using weasel words to snake her way out of a previous statement. Bernie has always been a straight shooter. He's firmly rooted in reality. He will change what he can, and continue to work on what he can't.

We need to support him by providing him with a Democratic house and senate.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
11. You can probably guess from my signature,
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 04:09 PM
Oct 2015

but I'm going with Bernie. I believe he has the right ideas about the direction this country needs to take. I believe we need to have income equality, ethnic equality (I don't like "racial", we're all one race), sexual/gender equality, age equality.

We need to stop letting the corporations run this country into the ground for profit. I don't think Hillary will do that, no matter how far "left" Bernie pushes her. It's all a front, a do-whatever-will-get-me-elected sham.

We need to stop letting the religious nuts set the tone for conversation and debate. We need to stop going into other countries to control them and get their native wealth (no war for oil). We need to take care of our own people, get them jobs, healthcare and protection from out of control police and courts.

We need to end this ridiculous war on drugs, for-profit prison system and privatized education and healthcare systems.

I think Bernie is the only one who can lead us to these goals, and will do my best to get him and like-minded congressional members in office to do so. And I'll try to wrest control of my state from the right wing crazies who are ruining it now.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
12. I think it's pretty clear
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:29 AM
Oct 2015

that the candidate focused on the 99% is Sanders.

He's got the $15 minimum wage, the health care, the education costs, and more.

I've long been a supporter of the following things, which I think would all benefit the working poor; Sanders comes closest:

1. National health care, paid 100% by taxes, free at point of service. No premiums, copays, or deductibles.

2. Universal FREE education, paid 100% by taxes, pre-school through university or trade school.

3. Fully integrated public transportation system available everywhere, FREE, paid 100% by taxes.

4. Guaranteed safe, clean, affordable housing for all. There are many ways to achieve this that I think might make a good topic for discussion, and perhaps an answer would be a combination of several.

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
13. welcome to the group (if you joined or not) :-)
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:37 AM
Oct 2015


love the 4 points

i might be ok with a small amount fee on 3

4 is so dear to my heart (once one spends even a week out of cover homeless on a street that happens)

please feel free to start that discussion in the group with ideas, i'd love to read them

most of mine run on 'self sufficient' or partially (at least small veggie gardens) cabins or flats/apartments with a larger 'party/communal' room/building for party or large group activities as well as laundry

even better would be if one could buy into those cabins, by for instance service to the local community (farming, helping someone build their cabin, working to keep the area clean) (that's more for homeless though)



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