End of Life Issues
Related: About this forumGoing up to see a friend in a couple days who is dying from cancer
He just acquired the prescription for death with dignity as its known here (WA), so want to say my goodbyes. Not much I can do, he doesnt want visitors but said hed talk to me on the porch if I came up. I can understand that. Prostate cancer has him. At least its inspired me to get checked regularly. My last checkup my PSA was up to 8 but I dont think thats really bad for my age. He put off getting checked so long it was stage 4 by the time they found it.
Tetrachloride
(8,447 posts)Turn on airplane mode on phone.
Bean dip plate maybe. special drinks , yogurt or pina colada.
Music such as piano playing.
Porch is nice. You sound like the person he can tolerate seeing.
Good luck
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Tetrachloride
(8,447 posts)i wouldnt show up empty handed.
The first time i attended such an event. , someone had to make an emergency run for pickles.
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childfreebychoice
(476 posts)I hate that religious nonsense prevents so many from chosing how to end their lives.
captain queeg
(11,780 posts)Hes spent the last few months tying up loose ends. He doesnt want his death to burden others. Its not that he isnt bummed or scared.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)littlemissmartypants
(25,483 posts)him that he would "die of old age before prostate cancer."
His mother lived to be a spry 94 and we all expected him, as a fully in shape health nut, to live at least to ninety, if not longer.
He didn't take the cancer seriously. He refused surgery and other procedures that most likely would have prolonged his life and given him a death from old age. That's what we all hoped and expected.
But because he decided to listen to one doctor, not a urologist, not an oncologist. It was his cardiologist, a buddy, who by the way, died before he did due to a freak dental procedure accident, that he listened to and believed.
I tried to get him to get another opinion. Even though I have a career history as a direct care medical provider with close to thirty years of experience in acute care, he wouldn't listen.
Just like he didn't listen when I warned him that his wife was planning to commit suicide, which she did try. Though she was unsuccessful, now she suffers from brain damage after being unconscious over eight hours and ventilator dependent for three scary days. He thought I was overreacting and must have been mistaken because "she hadn't mentioned it" to him.
Unfortunately, he just never really had a belief in the intellect of women. Not even those women who are highly educated, like his adopted daughter, me. He just didn't think women are capable of being as intelligent and competent, or as trustworthy, as men.
Well, he died at eighty five. He was too young and I will never forgive his stupid friend, even if he was a doctor. He had no right to be so cavalier with his comments, by speaking on a topic he wasn't qualified to comment on.
Mom sleeps with his ashes and she is slowly fading away, forever missing the sweetheart she depended on for almost seventy years. They were high school sweethearts.
He literally rescued us both from a likely future of poverty and for her, from the stigma that comes with being an unwed mother. He came to get her, finding she had left her first husband. She was pregnant and alone. He adopted me and married her after he graduated and returned from OCS. I believe he saved our lives. If only he had been able to save his own.
Please, don't downplay the risk of prostate cancer. It will invade your lymphatic system and spread to your organs and bones quickly. And always get your advice from more than one physician, those who are in the appropriate field of practice and have extensive experience with excellent references.
I would give anything to have my Daddy here just a little while longer. Even with his faults, he was a great man and I think about him a hundred times a day. I'd give anything to hear him call me "honey" just one more time.
Take the lead from your friend. What an honor it is that he is making time for your visit. It's the most precious thing that we have in the world.
And please, take good care of yourself.
❤pants
End of Life Issues Group post:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1285768
Bereavement Group post:
https://democraticunderground.com/12343456
captain queeg
(11,780 posts)I know he had it for years but told himself it was. Urinary infection and would not let them do a biopsy. To me it seems its usually men who refuse to see a doctor though I have a sister right now with breast cancer who is doing some natural kind of shit. But she doesnt deny that she has cancer. By the time my friend finally took it serious he was stage 4. Ive always heard prostate cancer is pretty treatable when caught early.
littlemissmartypants
(25,483 posts)Without a parachute.
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renate
(13,776 posts)Im so sorry. I cant imagine the frustration and anger you must feel. One throwaway sentence from someone who repeated an old trope without thinking of your dad as an individual cost him many years of life and left you and your mother with so much grief.
This must happen all the time. My dad had his surgery 17 years ago but only because I pointed out to him that he had a very healthy lifestyle and was likely to beat the prostate cancer timeline if he took care of it instead of letting it do its thing like so many men are advised to do. I think its way too common for them to hear what that cardiologist said and just leave it alone; its so tragic when that advice isnt tailored to the individual.
You may have saved a few lives by telling your dads story.
littlemissmartypants
(25,483 posts)brewens
(15,359 posts)He was a big dude when healthy. He was about 100 pounds that day. I didn't ask how he was doing. It was obvious, and how many times does a guy like that need to tell the story of his treatment and prognosis? Maybe he forgot about the cancer for a few minutes. That's the best I could do.