Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum****Florida Shock Poll**** You won't believe it- Biden 61% Sanders 12%
Even before Mike Bloomberg dropped out of the race for President, voters in Florida were consolidating behind Joe Biden.
More than 61% of likely Florida voters favor Biden, according to the most recent survey by St. Pete Polls commissioned by Florida Politics (the full PDF of the poll is embedded below). That gives the former Vice President a commanding lead over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, at 12%, and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, with 5%.
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/321847-latest-poll-of-florida-primary-shows-joe-biden-with-massive-lead-over-bernie-sanders
Could Biden get all of Florida's 219 delegates?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(17,440 posts)No way has more than 8% in florida.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(106,379 posts)and ya know what? I want Biden to win, but I likewise want Sanders to maintain his dignity, which blow-outs like this would not achieve. I want Bernie and his supporters to unite with all of us and quite frankly for Bernie to work with like-minded Senators on some of his proposals--even a well-crafted public option that might ultimately be the stepping stone to a move to M4A.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)If we're going to blunt the nonsense that is undoubtedly coming should Biden win the nomination, it would be helpful for his win to be emphatic.
If the win is a solid majority and there is no doubt Biden is the winner, I think people will be less likely to take the kind of silliness that happened in 2016 seriously. That's not to say that it won't happen. I just think most people will have little or no tolerance for it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(106,379 posts)This sense of victimization that the RW is trying to promote (somewhat successfully, it seems) among Sanders supporters just has me very concerned. We saw what that did to HRC in terms of uniting his supporters and with the impacts of malign intercesssion, it might well be infitely worse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)I just think that if the win is emphatic, there's much less to (legitimately) question and it won't get the same kind of media attention, drama, and so on if it's a clear win. We can't afford to have it drag on for months after the nomination is secured. Again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(106,379 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mme. Defarge
(8,535 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
exboyfil
(18,004 posts)I think he would tone down the blow out aspect of it, but it should be a very clear message to Sanders to gracefully exit the race (if he hasn't already taken the hint).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(20,658 posts)why I said many weeks ago that if he was to lose, I hoped he would finish 3rd or worse so that we wouldn't end up with another 2016. I want him to be hammered in this week's primaries, though I remain suspicious that even that will change him.
For the future, I want the DNC to bring in new rules
1 You must be a registered Democrat for 3 years before running, no exceptions.
2 You must release your full medical records 3 months before the first primary, otherwise you will be excluded.
3 The DNC reserve the right to get you to submit to a medical by their doctors, otherwise you will be excluded.
4 You must release your full tax records 3 months before the first primary, otherwise you will be excluded.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(20,658 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(305,440 posts)It's up to the Voters to vote for whom they want.
It's not as if Joe Biden isn't getting smeared from the right and other sources.. so far the Voters are seeing right through that..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)That is what you would call a major blowout.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(20,658 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Bernie is not winning Florida 😒
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LexVegas
(6,578 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(51,705 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,590 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)That will mostly end up in the Biden column, of course.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike 03
(16,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Todd79
(166 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
awesomerwb1
(4,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)Nice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zambero
(9,766 posts)A daunting challenge, but Joe has that look of confidence!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sandensea
(22,850 posts)I don't blame him - but c'mon, Joe. We need you at your healthiest, big guy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(20,658 posts)Biden is forecasted to win an average of 43% of the vote in Florida. In 80% of simulations, he wins between 30% and 59% of the vote. He has a 4 in 5 (81%) chance of winning the most votes, much better than the second most likely winner, Sanders, who has a 1 in 12 (9%) chance.
AND that's old
The forecast is frozen while we await final Super Tuesday results. It is not updating with any new data, including polls.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)That might be awhile.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(20,658 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)With others dropping out and another 14% still in the poll for Bloomberg, 60% is probably right on target.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)on the basis that there appears to be a tiny smidge of ice cream on Joe's lip as "further indiication" of his deteriorating mind...and that BHO's appearance in this picture (regardless of the date) is a clear-cut example of the "Democratic establishment" (ie, voters) ganging up on other candidates.
That's before the photoshopping and the fake videos are inserted.
(If any doubts, the above is oozing with )
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AGeddy
(509 posts)And also... it is a state full of retirees - the exact demographic that hates Bernie with a passion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(64,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(70,652 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,590 posts)Link to tweet
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,922 posts)Thats poisonous in Florida.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(64,396 posts)Bernie's whole history around Cuba is an issue.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Legends303
(481 posts)Biden will wrap this thing up in two weeks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,147 posts)pushing other things. Another woman might come forward. Whatever. It will get ugly now fast.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radical noodle
(8,601 posts)I live in Florida. If you think a bunch of retired folks would vote for Sanders, you'd be delusional. And we have a big AA population here too, along with people who fled Castro.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(64,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sancho
(9,103 posts)All I hear down here is Biden and Bloomberg. With Bloomberg out, Biden should win easily.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tritsofme
(18,540 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,227 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)His campaign can't cut the mustard so he'll never ketchup.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,227 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wryter2000
(47,478 posts)Even if it's a bit off, that's huge
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(7,020 posts)HRC cleaned BS' clock in 2016 in Florida, and that was without as much of the Castro crap being floated. Also, a much older demographic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(84,365 posts)would make Florida a nonstarter for Bernie.
The reality is - if youre doing well with young people, youre NOT necessarily doing well, if they dont show up to VOTE. And the reality is - they dont. Which is a shame.
Who DOES show up to vote? Older people. AND older people of color. Probably because theyve been around long enough to see, understand, and remember. And its the older demographic that gets why bringing up Castro is a BIG mistake. They remember the Cuban missile crisis and the Commie 90 miles off our shores.
Praising Castro is just stupid. Bringing Castro up in the first place was just stupid. Especially for a self-proclaimed socialist! Especially when the very word socialist spooks a huge chunk of the public. Lordy, can you say CLUELESS?!?!? And Florida has such a sizeable Cuban demographic - and they remember Castro and not in any positive sense. Is Bernie that stuck in his ivory tower that he does not realize this? That theres no way you can sell socialist and make people warm to it? Its a labeling thing. One can argue its just a word. Maybe, but its still a fucking LOADED word that evokes some of our most basic fears of totalitarianism that have creeped Amerian ca out for decades. And fears that deep and that visceral take a LONG time to overcome.
It does no good to try to explain about the issues. It does no good to try to explain the fine points of what Bernie says we should be doing and enacting as public policy. Nobody has time for that. As has been said before, if youre explaining, youre losing. Weve had decades to imprint on, and internalize, the very simple and visceral meme Socialism = Bad. And when that impression has had decades to seep all the way into the American bone marrow, its a LOSER. And all the well it SHOULDNT be arguments, even while sensible and justifiable, wont change that. I suspect the demographics who actually show up to vote in Florida will RUN, not walk, to support Biden. I cant help but suspect that Bernies numbers in Florida, if he had any of significance, will head toward the basement.
Campaign Rule Number One: DO NOT hand your opponent free ammo. DO NOT give your opponent ANY opening of ANY size or shape! PERIOD. Bernie, for Petes sake, WHAT ON EARTH WERE YOU THINKING???
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
splunge63
(158 posts)Sanders is done
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,823 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)wouldn't have reposted it had I seen it
lets keep this kicked to the top of the page
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(52,392 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,590 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,922 posts)That would be nice and it would put him that much closer to the 1991 delegates he needs to clinch the nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BGBD
(3,282 posts)if it's about what you expect?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,903 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
drray23
(7,965 posts)At that point, Bernie should step down since he will be eliminated .
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(52,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OrlandoDem2
(2,270 posts)You never know who has the virus.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marlakay
(12,205 posts)More with Bernies issues. The way things are America is just not ready sadly for them and I dont believe Bernie is the one to lead on it because some of his followers are causing too many problems.
Then there is this virus, I heard Joe talk about it and I felt comforted. We sorely need some empathy right now in this country.
We are literally starving for it.
Bernie is a good kind man that has worked hard for many years but just like all the others this isnt his time.
That said I still wont be changing from undecided because my heart is still with Liz.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tarheel_Dem
(31,443 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)unless there's ice cream in it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zak247
(251 posts)On election day well know early; if Biden wins Florida and Pennsylvania he's in.
Those early states we can know by 7 pm.
This is why Bernie can't win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,268 posts)Sanders wants to destroy our nominee because he is going to lose again. He is just pissed because the moderates decided to support one candidate instead of letting him win my default.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,590 posts)Link to tweet
?s=20
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(51,705 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Traym
(15 posts)On Tuesday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden