Bernie is kaput!!

The damage stops here.

And after Bernie loses those states the goalposts will be moved again. No thanks. It’s time for him to get out.

don't want to see Sanders get destroyed if it looks like its going that way. We will need to come together.

he will win debates with Joe and it's time we all get behind Joe.

Not this time. We need 100% now. In 2008 no presidential candidate was running for reelection. Now we have incumbency to beat.

Otoh, a ballot with the only alternatives to VP Biden being Sanders and Gabbard, both of whom are wildly unrepresentative of most Democrats and both of whom Russia is using against both the Democratic Party and America, is going to be...a poignant indication of the dangerous times our nation is in.

But nevertheless also of what the Democratic Party truly believes in. Thank everything that can be thanked that we do have a very strongly supported candidate in Biden.

roughed up in primary that is over. Time to let it go and move to the general.

Bernie's campaign has been going super negative all last week and yesterday. It's time to hit Trump not democrats.

that sounds like a reasonable thing to do. However, there is too much at stake. I am hoping Bernie will realize that he's not going to win this particular race, and strategize with Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and whoever else to figure out how to unite against Trump and for down ticket wins to take back the House and Senate.
Then everyone can argue all they want.

I know it would take a miracle, however.

Plus not give our nominee a head start like Trump enjoys?

The polls in all remaining states show Biden ahead by at least double digits and in some cases by 30 or 40 points.

It will be a futile exercise. Raises hopes of Bernie supporters and sets them for a bigger grief.

It's over. Accept it and move on.

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We don't need to duke it out anymore and give more fodder to the GOP. It's time to move on. And pivot to the general election. Plus, he needs to save some face. The states coming up are expected to be brutal for him.

another few weeks wouldn't really hurt, but I don't see what good it would do, either. We've had a good battle of ideas, and a lot of ideas Sanders has championed have gained ground. But the party electorate's priorities and preferences are pretty clear, at this point.

Her staying in 2008 was not acceptable, did nothing to help the party. So bluntly, Bernie pulled this shit once. Pulling it again is complete ego driven bullshit.

About how the Independent Senator from Vermont got screwed.

Yeah we need that.

He needs to drop out very soon if he loses today.

What on Earth is to be gained by more internecine squabbling? Two guys arguing on stage no longer serves any purpose until one of those guys is Trump.

The voting patterns are undeniably clear. This race is over, and further struggling just exacerbates hard feelings.

At some point one must accept the inevitable.

Given the way this thing has changed so rapidly and so forcefully, I'm inclined to think it might be better for Bernie to exit stage left very soon. It does not help the progressive agenda to continue to be blown out in state after state after state.

But like I said, I could perhaps see one last debate if they keep it civil and allow one more primary day if anybody needs further convincing. And should the results be anywhere similar (and it looks like Florida will be even worse) then we must pull the plug and end this thing.

I'm leaning toward the former, however. I've seen enough myself, and realistically speaking one more debate and one more primary will almost certainly not accomplish anything useful. Both of these men have been around a long time and anybody who hasn't been in a coma for the last 30 or 40 years already knows what each of them stands for.

the Bernie 2024 campaign?

weight behind Biden, for the good of the nation. Sanders asked recently about being capable of doing for others. Here is his chance to actually walk the talk.

Bernie should drop tonight, endorse Joe wholeheartedly and hit the trail for him.

And this will be his last run for President so I don’t think he drops out until after the convention.

He's not going to repeat 2016, nor should he.

Biden is projected to win every state in the next two weeks and all but two or three the rest of the cycle.

The race is effectively over in every sense but making it official, which I suspect Bernie will do in the next day or two.

related to that last Japanese soldier who surrendered in 1974...almost 30 years after WW2 ended?

He only helps Trump if he stays in.

nor Hillary should run in 20. We were right then. Now let's shut this primary down and turn our attention to beating Trump. You are a Democrat and will support the nominee just as I would if our positions were reversed. We need to end this...no point in more attacks on our nominee from our side. Trump must go. Let's make this our new mission.

And if delegate count is too large for Bernie to catch up than hope it's over by St Patty day. Joe being Irish would be a wonderful day for him.

maybe we could instead have them play a 1-on-1 game of basketball. That oughta be a real hoot.

The debate is/was scheduled for 2 hours long, I believe. Perhaps one of 'em might actually score a basket before time expired?

Just 1 more and you couldn't have accurately said that. But you made it under the wire!

Technically correct is the best kind of correct!

He can follow up on Fox News for the rest of the campaign.

They are of negative value in the current situation.

Having one candidate hammer the presumptive nominee is harmful to our general election prospects, and you know that's what will happen, based on past experience.

I'd like to see them debate too. No matter what, I want Bernie to go out on his own terms and for that to be clear to his supporters so nobody thinks he was forced out.