Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumParty leaders shouldn't be using words like "Shut down this primary"
I was with Biden from the start but these words by Clyburn just play into the narrative the "the party" is in control.
You can make the same point without gifting your opponents fresh talking points and thereby showing a little humility and respect to the voters we'll need to defeat the sack of shit currently in the white house.
Just sayin'
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SCantiGOP
(14,238 posts)I understand what Rep Clyburn was saying, but if my state hasnt voted yet, dont tell me you are going to shut the process down. That is up to the candidates and the voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomSlick
(11,887 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatrickforO
(15,109 posts)that Biden will win so decisively that he can start campaigning against Trump.
We've got to get rid of Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Bad politics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,896 posts)This is about party unity to defeat the Idiot. If the math is insurmountable what good is it to continue, making it unnecessarily more difficult for Biden to have to fight both fronts - primarying and strategizing to win the GE. It costs time, money and resources to run campaigns. Let Biden focus solely on the endgame now that he's the prohibitive nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,306 posts)vote regardless of the fact that the ultimate result is a foregone conclusion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,896 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,306 posts)That is what our representative democracy should be about.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)be on the ticket by the time your primary comes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopdiggin
(12,821 posts)"regardless of the fact that the ultimate result ..."
Primaries will still take place.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Meadowoak
(6,216 posts)(paraphrasing) that they would steer it back to him. I think that should be left up to the voters, no wonder half of our country doesn't bother to vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(87,476 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopdiggin
(12,821 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Not words spoken by politicians.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)to vote for Biden, as if they didn't have free will?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boston bean
(36,491 posts)We dont have time to screw around this year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TDale313
(7,822 posts)Weve made a wise choice. Its been a bit of whiplash from this things wide open to this things over I think it essentially is... but Joe was pretty under the radar until, like, a week and a half ago? And yeah, people know him (mostly for being Obamas VP) but hes about to go under the microscope big time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)He suffered the slings and arrows inherent to that position. I doubt there's anything new to throw at him. Just more, a lot more, of the same.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)COVID-19 and it's dangers in large gatherings. But he should have made that clear.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,856 posts)It just feeds into the persecution and grievance narrative so many Sanders supporters claim
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(305,401 posts)if that's true.. there would be no need for a debate for one thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,612 posts)Which doesn't mean ending anything just yet. It's about being adults and focusing on the ultimate end goal.
Seriously, next Tuesday is more than soon enough for these final decisions. It's important to let people accept where things are with dignity. We're all human beings here.
Right now there needs to be a pivot in messaging. No more attacks, there's zero to be gained by such and much to be lost by damaging our candidate. That's all that needs to change.
Joe showed how that's done tonight. Let's all follow his lead. Also, ignore the bots on social media. Being vile is literally what they get paid to do.
Let's focus on our blue wave in November!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,856 posts)Biden's got momentum and it's happening organically. Anyone who continues with now pointless attacks (both on Biden and Sanders and their supporters) has an agenda that isn't focused on the goal of winning in November. People like that can and should be shut down and it can be done without tarrring entire groups of people for what they say and do.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(52,739 posts)That's why Clyburn is right.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,467 posts)might be right.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sunsky
(1,876 posts)Time to unite and focus on beating Trump.
My primary (FL) is next week and even though I've early voted, I have no issue with the primary coming to an end. TrumPutin is banking on division within our party. Bernie will earn my respect and will show that he has learned from the 2016 primary debacle, if he unites early behind the Democratic electorate's clear choice. However I don't think he will.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(52,739 posts)need to get over our feelings and get that job done.
Bernie's followers are no different from any of the rest of us who backed other candidates. We have all had heartbreaks.
But so what? We all quickly pivoted in order to get our one job done. It's time for the Bernie people to do the same.
No one wrung their hands over our feelings, and we really don't have time to wring our hands over the feelings of the Bernie people.
We need to all grow up, pull together and get Filthy Donnie out of office.
I agree with Clyburn. Time to pivot to the general election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,853 posts)Why call for Bernie to drop out when there's another primary next Tuesday where he is also expected to do poorly? He needs to have that opportunity or his supporters will claim he could have caught Biden if he hadn't drop out so fast. Next Tuesday Florida and AZ will put it away definitely for Biden so why rush to call for Bernie to drop out before then.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pinkstarburst
(1,548 posts)is really going to harm us in the general by alienating voters who are not Biden supporters. Look, I know everyone wants to pressure people to "vote blue no matter who" but the reality is there are voters out there who are frustrated that the issues they care about are being addressed by certain candidates and not by others. The last thing we need is to have the primaries shut down before half the country even gets a chance to cast their vote (silencing their voices--you think that will increase the chances they will fall in line and turn out in November--dream on), and especially after Bernie's chances were soaring and Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and the other endorsements almost overnight seemed like everyone in the establishment teaming up together to work against Bernie. I get that you win some you lose some. I get why they made the choices they did, but all I'm saying is, if you are that Bernie supporter... I can see where you might be feeling like the last few weeks were really rigged against him. And I don't think more calls from the establishment to shut down the primaries are going to help.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pampango
(24,692 posts)Biden was relying on his 'firewall' in SC to rebound - which he has done spectacularly.
If the debate on Sunday and the primaries next Tuesday go Biden's way, which they show every indication of doing - I think Sanders will do the right thing.
I don't know how the party could 'shut down this primary' unilaterally. I suppose they could cancel all future debates but the primary elections are still going to happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I get people wanting to pick up this particular ball, run with and pretend a touchdown is imminent, but it's little different in tone, tenor and sentiment than someone saying, "it really should stop raining..."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden