Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhen it looked like the Biden campaign was on its last legs, I didn't hear the pundits saying the
Sanders campaign or its supporters should make conciliatory gestures toward Biden supporters. In fact I was hearing just the opposite from those parties
I find it ironic now that the roles seem to be reversed how the pundits and others are saying that it is incumbent upon the Biden campaign to make conciliatory gestures toward the Sanders campaign
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(34,414 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,505 posts)a problem with Biden supporters being conciliatory to Sanders voters. Its called not being a sore winner and Biden exemplifies that. We desperately need party unity or we will lose in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,359 posts)perhaps we can start being conciliatory.
I'm of the opposite opinion. Some of these people were never going to vote for anyone other than Bernie, and we shouldn't feel it necessary to kiss up to people who think the Trump War Room is a valid source.
We have party unity. We have as much party unity as we've had in years. Personally, I think the noise should just be ignored, and I suspect there's going to be little or no tolerance for the kind of nonsense that occurred in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,505 posts)that were going to be unified. But theres no point any longer in pissing off Sanders supporters unnecessarily, especially the ones at DU who seem to be loyal Democrats. Id be surprised if more than 10% of Sanders voters didnt support our eventual nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rorey
(8,512 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,046 posts)he will make conciliatory gestures, but if threats are made that they must do this or that or they will not vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election, is unacceptable
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,505 posts)we shouldnt give in to blackmail. And the people who are not going to support the nominee should be ignored and isolated.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,046 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
usaf-vet
(6,816 posts)Biden's VP choice should help to unify the party. But in any case, the primary objective is to get Trump out of office. PERIOD!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rorey
(8,512 posts)I don't know that Joe Biden is being a "sore winner", though I'm sure it can feel like that to some who support Sanders.
On one hand, we need to get every vote we can get, but history shows that some aren't going to do what's obviously in the best interest of the country because they'll be nursing hard feelings.
Some folks can't be won over, so to speak, no matter how conciliatory the victor is. That's just the way it is. We'll have to do everything we can to win without them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,840 posts)Some others? particularly on this board? different story.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Turin_C3PO
(15,505 posts)have been very gracious winners. Ive only seen a few questionable posts. Biden sets a great example.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(52,400 posts)any of the others' supporters.
None of those camps demanded prizes for participation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)All too true. Bernie's always treated as a special case.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(84,048 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,046 posts)must do this or that, or they will not support him in the general election, is unacceptable.
When Rep. Clyburn said, let Biden be Biden, really hit the target. I sure hope Rep. Clyburn is part of the Biden campaign, and will be part of a Biden administration if Biden wins the general election
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)I feel very good about how things are going in the party right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,046 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)is not allowed to vote - in fact only Vermont, NH, NV and IA are! Because - enthusiasm!
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
frazzled
(18,402 posts)That was the huge mistake in 2016, imo. I don't recall in previous primaries that non-winning candidates were given such an outsized role after a presumptive nominee was achieved. They got to speak at the convention for 5 or 10 minutes maybe, and there were probably backroom deals to be made about them releasing delegates. But they didn't get to have such a big role in writing the platform and dominating committees, and their delegates certainly weren't allowed to boo and demonstrate.
Maybe this is a function of the party becoming so "split." We're always worried about alienating a single voting segment. But frankly, we do cater to this contingent at the party's own peril (as the Republicans did to the Tea Party). Most Sanders voters and delegates are going to do the right thing in the end, but the vocal minority that won't aren't Democrats anyway and have never voted so. We don't need them, and they are more than made up for this time by the energetic black base and by massive numbers of suburban women.
So no: not this time, no how. It only weakens our chances in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pinkstarburst
(1,537 posts)And if Sanders is the nominee, absolutely he will have to make concessions, pick a moderate VP, adjust his platform so that he can pick up votes from moderates. I think the reason you didn't hear about "concessions" was that the pundits were so busy screaming "the sky is falling if we nominate a progressive" and lighting their hair on fire.
In all seriousness, Joe has to play this smart. He can't go into the general with the expectation ANY group of people is just going to fall in line and vote for him because "we have to defeat Trump." That kind of thinking didn't work for us in 2016. It's not going to work this time around either. Joe has made such a show of how he can reach out to republicans, reach out to independent voters, reach out to AA voters. If he wants progressives to show up and vote for him of course he's going to have to change his messaging, give them some of the things they were dreaming for with Bernie and give them a reason to vote for him. Or if he doesn't care, that's his choice, but the moment Bernie is out of the race? Any failure to get those votes is 100% on JOE.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(96,046 posts)by his speech last night.
Reaching out to the opposition within the Democratic party is good, but making demands, or they won't get support or votes in the general election is not
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
2naSalit
(92,067 posts)We had Obama as president at that time not the Godzilla president. There will be more voters than you can imagine wanting to oust the incumbent this time.
Joe needs to make NO concessions to the interloper wannabe democrat. i think you give Bernie too much credit for losing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,305 posts)After Nevada, you think he should have assumed Biden's campaign was over and made conciliatory gestures? Come on. He would have been railed against for the hubris, and rightly so.
The situation now is enormously different, because unlike Biden after Nevada, Sanders' campaign really IS effectively over. That makes it an entirely different circumstance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LoveMyCali
(2,032 posts)I was wondering if I was the only one who saw a difference between two primaries and 49. The numbers just aren't there anymore, time to concentrate on ridding ourselves of the Republican swamp.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,471 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(17,683 posts)I'm having a hard time with the idea that we're just supposed to bend over backwards and kiss asses of the same individuals who booed party leaders viciously at the convention in 2016, including icons like John Lewis.
I want to unite the party, but it's hard to get past things like that and the current attacks on Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,046 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(17,683 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pampango
(24,692 posts)of 'unity'. I don't remember them urging 'conciliatory gestures' to Biden and his supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
boston bean
(36,428 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SunSeeker
(53,507 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
llmart
(16,319 posts)"The Democrats are in disarray." I thought it was a load of crap then and now of course we know it was a load of crap.
The pundits aren't happy unless they have controversy, even if it's fabricated.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)In his speech Tuesday night he thanked Bernie and his supporters and invited them to join his campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stillcool
(32,632 posts)bothsiderism, and all the rest of the bullshit coming from egotistical madmen, and sychophants. There's so much going on, and this Bernie crap can not interfere with my attention span. He is one human being, not nearly as important as he thinks he is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYC Liberal
(20,331 posts)The media expected her to make all kinds of concessions and overtures to Bernie supporters after winning the primaries.
Then when she lost to Trump, the media said nothing about Trump making concessions even though he lost the popular vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
slumcamper
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
keopeli
(3,579 posts)They did it in 08 with Hillary, but she wouldn't bow out graciously. Obama had to struggle with Hillary supporters as a result.
They did it in every election I can think of since the 1980s. It's not a Sanders thing. It's what they say when one candidate is clearly going to win the nomination, and not before Super Tuesday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)get elected by lying about Joe Biden, I require no conciliatory gestures on Joe Biden's part.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DIVINEprividence
(443 posts)Always play fair when you are holding the winning hand -Oscar Wilde
Being nice to Sanders is just smart politics for Biden. Who cares what Sanders does. Biden has won it and the fact he is trying to reach out to unify the party just makes me secure he is the right choice as the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,783 posts)They know what's at stake, if they can live with that then so be it.
I'll be dammed if I am going to kiss their lilly white asses.
In case anyone misses my understanding, here it is again. FUCK THEM!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
randr
(12,462 posts)I thought it hyperbolic for Bernie to claim the lead before Super Tuesday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
keepthemhonestO
(278 posts)because half of his supporters are rabid sycophants and they voted not for Clinton last time and they are going to vote trump or 3rd party again. I say we can win with half of them but the other half are more reasonable so maybe we should try to whew them over?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,046 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
alfredo
(60,131 posts)It was too soon to write the Biden CampaIgns obit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,886 posts)If its decent why not go out for a walk? Take your pets if you have them. If the weathers bad why not do something that youve been putting off that really needs to be done.
You are going to be Getting what you wanted very shortly. You should be happy about that. Why not try to keep things in perspective?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden