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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

TwilightZone

(28,361 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:12 PM Mar 2020

Sanders wants just one more chance to make sure Biden understands his agenda.

Does Bernie really think Joe doesn't know where he stands by now?

Joe could probably write the stump speech for him by now. We all could.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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redstatebluegirl

(12,471 posts)
1. Good lord the whole world knows!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:14 PM
Mar 2020

He has been screaming it for the last 30 years. Over and over again!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(12,008 posts)
2. It's not about where Bernie stands
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:16 PM
Mar 2020

It's about where Biden stands on some of these issues. Maybe it's because of the multi-candidate debates and the lack of substance/focus on stupid issues like Hillary Clinton's comments about Bernie and arguing over electability and polls, but I honestly don't know where Biden stands on a lot of the things Bernie talks about. I'd like to know what he is offering besides just a return to normalcy - not to underestimate the value of returning to normalcy and having a Democrat appoint RBG's replacement.

When Obama was elected, we knew that the stimulus and health care were going to be his big pushes right away. I know a little bit about what Biden has proposed, but I don't know what his big legislative pushes are going to be at the start of his presidency. What are his big priorities? For Bernie I know that answer. I don't really know it with Biden and I would like to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(28,361 posts)
12. No, it's not.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:24 PM
Mar 2020

This is all about Bernie. The only reason he's still in the race is because this is about Bernie Sanders and the movement that is centered on Bernie Sanders. As it always is.

Biden has already sold himself to voters. That's why he's blowing out Sanders. Sanders should be more concerned about why people are not voting for him than why they are voting for Biden. Sanders is losing decisively and it's rather presumptuous of him to believe that he gets to set the parameters of the debate and set the agenda.

Here's the thing - if he overstays his welcome (again) it will only harm his movement, and there's already evidence - turned in by the voters - that his movement is in serious decline. I think there's going to be much less tolerance of the kind of nonsense that happened in 2016 at the convention and if Sanders insists on dragging this out, he will only further turn people off and will accomplish nothing.

Personally, I hope he stays in the race until Biden has a majority because it will firmly close the door and eliminate any excuses his supporters have about "what if" and "if only".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pandr32

(12,106 posts)
16. Our big push needs to be to rid ourselves of the DT-rot
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:33 PM
Mar 2020

He has damaged our agencies and institutions across the board, slashed taxes for the top percentile and underfunded everything outside of the military, and blown up our debt. It will not be an overnight fix. We need a strong coalition to approach it and begin to undo the damage. "Issues", aside from trying to reinstate the ones Obama put in place for the environment, protection of public lands, health care, etc., won't get a "big push" for a long time. We will have to fight the good fight on every piece of wrongdoing we try to right and it will take time.
Add to that all efforts to regain trust abroad. Yikes.
The rest of it will have to wait. Just remember how hard the right worked to kneecap Obama and you might get the idea of what lies ahead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

W_HAMILTON

(8,376 posts)
3. The real problem here is Sanders's insinuation that Biden and other Democrats...
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020

...don't stand for what Sanders does.

What Democrats aren't for universal healthcare? What Democrats aren't for raising the minimum wage? What Democrats aren't for reducing/eliminating childhood poverty?

Sanders is yet again purposefully being divisive to enhance his brand while hurting Democrats, the Democratic Party, and our country's last hope to correct course and cure this Trump blight currently infecting our nation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

katmondoo

(6,492 posts)
8. Did Sanders support Ted Kennedy who was always fighting for natioal healthcare.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:23 PM
Mar 2020

I am not sure if Ted Kennedy wanted Medicare for all or another type of national healthcare. Never heard from Sanders in all those years and I am 90 now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pandr32

(12,106 posts)
17. + 1,000,000,000
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:35 PM
Mar 2020

I am not 90, but I remember as well.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(28,361 posts)
14. He's the first and only person to ever address issues important to Democrats.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:28 PM
Mar 2020

That is, quite literally, the stance that he and some of his supporters take.

There was no political history prior to his announcement to run in 2015. Except he was arrested once and there are some vague - and woefully misinformed - references to FDR.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

snowybirdie

(5,583 posts)
4. In totally insulted
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:20 PM
Mar 2020

by Bernie's dismissal of the value of MY vote. Another my way or the highway narcissist.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Legends303

(481 posts)
6. Bernie has been consistent Biden has not
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie can still win and 0.1 is still a chance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,783 posts)
13. Biden has been consistent in winning
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:24 PM
Mar 2020

He has also been consistent in racking up delegates. Bernie bot so much.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

William769

(55,783 posts)
7. Is it to screw the Democratic party?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:23 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JaneQPublic

(7,116 posts)
9. Had to laugh when Bernie was reciting his series of "Joe, what are ya gonna do about..." questions.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:23 PM
Mar 2020

Taking a few steps back, it was quite rich that Bernie -- the guy who's embraced the same ideology for 30 years yet has succeeded in enacting virtually none of it -- was asking Joe -- the guy who helped get the Affordable Care Act enacted into law -- what he was going to do about getting people health care coverage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

boston bean

(36,428 posts)
10. No. He is staying in all the way cause welp, he is that important. In his own mind.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:23 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FM123

(10,111 posts)
11. I think he was talking to his young supporters not really to Biden.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:24 PM
Mar 2020

He thinks they will save him. But he could be very wrong about that - there are 93 colleges and universities in Michigan full of voting age young folks that could have saved him last night if they really wanted to. I guess they didn't, hence the Biden victory.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
15. Too late to talk to them. They don't get a do-over. n/t
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:33 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FM123

(10,111 posts)
18. Exactly.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:02 PM
Mar 2020

And not just them, African American voters in Alabama & Mississippi that he snubbed or supporters of Elizabeth Warren (like myself) that he let his bros attack.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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