our own selfishness.

Thank you!

Rather than coming together for the survival of democracy in America and for the well being of the American people, there are those who will stand on ceremony and behave like Prima Donnas demanding that they be pleased before bestowing their vote. It is just terrible behavior.

Stupid? Uninformed? Selfish? Greedy? One of those for sure. Sanders told me today, when we voted a no to him, that I was one of those things.

Biden on the other hand is assembling a team to address coronavirus. Thank you Biden. Tomorrow I go back to work surrounded by a full house for a concert, here in the NW. Tell me how selfish I am because I vote Biden.

Go pound salt bernie

I keep hearing people say their concerns must be addressed. What does satisfaction in that department look like? I have no idea. One gets the sense there will be no pleasing them no matter what he says or does. They don't want him to be the nominee.

that Biden do or say anything in particular, or that his supporters do or say anything in particular, and we well know that there is nothing that would work. Biden could say he now supports ending all student debt and allowing it to be discharged in bankruptcy without question. And they would still be saying too little, too late, etc. and saying he waffled. And they do not seem to understand that Congress would have to come along with it and that Biden's support regarding BK discharge was as a Senator representing a particular state, and that other Senators' states might have interests that make it hard for them to support it. They expect immediate caving and Senators having the "courage" to go against their constituents to do what is "right." And what is right is what they want, not what the Senator's state wants!

would never dream of demanding a prize for participation

Warren or Wander!!

Okay. . . that last one needs work.

We'd think they had gone around the bend.

Why do any other candidate's supporters do this?

It adds to the idea they are cultish. Bernie is their focus, not who could really win and at least do some good. No compromise, talk about ideals. When you can see that being idealistic doesn't do you that well in the real world.

The way to bring them back into the fold doesn't include antagonizing them. There are a lot of sore winners on DU that are creating a huge divide by not recognizing that.

People are disappointed and upset. They need time. They need friendship. They need support. They need understanding.

They come to DU and get pummeled by "you and your candidate suck" threads. It isn't helping Biden. It isn't helping Democrats.

supporters have done this sort of thing.

In the mean time do you want them to vote for Biden? Then reach out and be civil and not condemning and judgmental.

The sore winners on this board are abundant.

"Be nice to us or we won't vote Democratic." No other candidates' supporters would ever say that. But Team Bernie got away with it in 2016 and is trying to again.

I think this should not be allowed again...ever!

We have a wonderful DU member that was an HRC delegate (I will not mention their DU username as it is up to that person to continue to speak about it our not) to the 16 convention and has spoken openly about the horrors of it

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-sanders-supporters-throw-chairs-at-nevada-democratic-convention/

Nothing new here.

who feeds exclusively on resentment and spite, but if he were the nominee I wouldn’t demand he “earn my vote” or present me with a “message of hope” — I would crawl over broken glass to fucking vote for him because on his worst day he’s a million times better than Trump on his best day.

And fuck anyone who can’t manage the same for Biden.

for the good of unity and the country. Clearly this is not a skillset or moral compass that everyone holds.

Never in my life did I think I could despise anyone as much as I despise trump, but now sanders has taken the prize. After the results of the latest primaries, I celebrated thinking that this egomaniac would step aside. But, oh no, this selfish jerk wants to punish us for his carefully drafted defeat in 2016. When he could have helped the Clinton campaign and helped our nation, he chose to act like an impudent child. I hold him responsible for helping to elect that horrible man now residing in the WH.

He has no business running for the office, he's motivated by greed and notoriety. If he cared for anyone other than himself, he would have disappeared a long time ago. Now, my fellow democrats, you have nothing to look forward to except for enhanced division of our party and the predictable failure of our country and our ideals.

I am so sorry to have shared my desperation with anyone. I am just so shocked that any human being (except for trump) would be so unfeeling and so cruel. His hateful actions will haunt us forever, damn him!

sanders not dropping out may help Biden. sanders keeps on losing primaries by large margins nnly strenghten's Joe's position https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/11/no-surprise-bernie-sanders-is-still-all-about-himself-never-party/

Link to tweet

of BS's fans who would never vote for any non-Bernie nominee, not even Warren. Those are dead-enders. The party's time and resources would be better spent shoring up key parts of the base, like Black voters and low-income voters.

That being said, I do think he (and we!) should cut the losses of the Busters because most of those people not only weren't ever Democrats, they probably never will be. The majority of Bernie voters that will end up supporting Biden (and also supported Hillary) are those who are pragmatic like the rest of us—many of whom here have already lost one or two candidates before Biden became our choice. They care about children in cages and they care that the continued shift of the judicial branch will hurt many, many people.

The busters don't care about children in cages. I'm sorry to say it but they just don't. If they did, they'd realize just how dangerous Trump is in keeping those children there. Half of the Busters are one or two issue voters (M4A and socialism) and no other issue matters and if it does matter, it's only as a subset of socialism. For example, the belief that capitalism is the cause of racism, sexism, and homophobia, which isn't just patently false, it's ridiculously false. But, I think the other half of them are just looking for something to believe in and rally behind and I use the word rally intentionally here since they'll show up at a rally but they won't show up to vote. Those are the Bernie cultists. They're never going to support our nominee and I don't think that Biden should start going socialist-left if he wants to beat Trump. I think he has a far better chance off getting centrist Republicans and never-Trumpers than he'll ever have winning over the extreme left.

So yeah, go for Bernie's voters, but not the extremists. There's no point.

She's liberal, progressive.

She had the most progressive platform in history. Perhaps that was the problem. There are some Sanders supporters, not the majority but some, that no matter what they won't vote for Biden but will demand concessions anyway. I think this time Biden should stay in the middle and seek out suburban moms and never Trumpers. We have to beat Trump and it looks like they are actively voting and in Biden's camp.

It’s a fucking matter of Giving a shit about humanity and decency or NOT.

It’s about wanting kids out of cages or NOT.

It’s about wanting sane people fostering good will with the rest of the world or NOT.

Need I really go on?

Fuck those people who would say screw it, I’m voting for Trump if I don’t get my way. I can’t believe anyone like that would ever be on our side to begin with. So yeah, fuck them.

You think Bernie can win by luring in Trumpers with free shit? That’s the definition of socialism to them.

Biden lures in everyone by being the only level headed candidate left on stage. His message of unity is a home run.

And it will bring in several million more in the current environment. Trump is no longer an unknown danger.

coalition or do they sit this one out...I weary of their demands and have no wish to kiss Sander's ring. He needs to go quietly. Sander has lost the primary.

SCOREBOARD!

+10000000000

Joe really does not need them,however gravy on meat would taste good.
He can stand alone and take it all

I mean Sanders would have been the candidate, he still would have to work within a Democratic party that is generally Centrist.

Bryant

me. I don't need concessions to vote for the Democratic nominee...and neither should Sanders or his supporters. He has lost and should bow out with grace and dignity and help us to defeat Trump. He can affect the change he wants in the Senate. He will never occupy the White House. But should Sanders continue to attack our nominee, Trump might occupy the White House for four more years.

any further opportunities to push for a more leftist agenda.

And as I've said, I will vote for Biden if and when he receives the nomination.

Bryant

Belief in belief doing it's usual damage. I have seen a lot of over-confidence and bullying coming from supporters of both candidates and it is discouraging.

I don't like Sander's personality, but agree with some of his positions. He would be a millions times better than Donny Dimwit.

in your 3rd paragraph.

my "political whims" are not based on a momentary cult of personality, but a 1/2 century of anti war, environmental, and consumer protection activism.

i may vote for biden, but there is nothing he can do to "earn" my vote, and win or lose i'll immediately begin looking for a 2024 challenger.