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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Happyhippychick

(8,422 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:32 PM Mar 2020

Does anyone care about the debate between Biden and Sanders?

I couldn't care less if Joe pooped his pants onstage, nothing and I mean nothing will keep me from voting for him in November. I don't care about the issues, I just want a grown-up. There's nothing about Joe that has ever offended me, I'll take him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Does anyone care about the debate between Biden and Sanders? (Original Post) Happyhippychick Mar 2020 OP
Maybe Bernie thinks this is his last hurrah Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #1
Yep. Bernie is going to let loose with everything he has at the debate. zackymilly Mar 2020 #3
Silver lining. It's Good practice for Joe for the general. Funtatlaguy Mar 2020 #11
There's no way Trump will participate in a debate More_Cowbell Mar 2020 #16
Agree. Trump's bone spurs can't handle such a thing nt Jarqui Mar 2020 #47
Trump will win every debate unfortunately wprice2 Mar 2020 #54
Very different situation this time Jarqui Mar 2020 #66
I think you are right. Debating someone with no record Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2020 #88
"The media adored and lavished (praise on) him"? maxsolomon Mar 2020 #73
It is. Last campaign. Last debate. Last dance. Last chance for romance to night. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #19
Somebody has spent a little time in gay bars. LuvNewcastle Mar 2020 #23
LOL! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #29
Well they were lucky to have a cool mom. LuvNewcastle Mar 2020 #33
Really? I thought those were discos where I was dancing to that music! n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #31
Was it raining men in those places? LuvNewcastle Mar 2020 #32
... NCProgressive Mar 2020 #38
He thought Tuesday was going to be his big comeback. Now he hopes the debate will do it? C Moon Mar 2020 #44
No.. don't care..don't want to hear sanders spout off about anything..he should drop out! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #2
Me too. I hope it gives Biden a chance to lay out his pragmatic and progressive policies and to emmaverybo Mar 2020 #4
agree 100% William769 Mar 2020 #5
only if MSM doesn't control it like the other debates. nt yaesu Mar 2020 #6
Yeah, 30 seconds and it's "OK, Thank you!" Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #7
So basically you want Bernie to moderate the debate HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #18
I just want to see a rational Demguy81 Mar 2020 #8
Who is the other democrat lillypaddle Mar 2020 #35
Well, if you wanted a great debate between two Democrats Aquaria Mar 2020 #83
I'll admit customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #9
Same...although it also gives the Trump camp an idea how to prepare for Biden Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #17
The race is over. Codeine Mar 2020 #10
I probably won't watch radical noodle Mar 2020 #12
I'm not at all interested. We have heard from both of them. We know where they stand. TryLogic Mar 2020 #13
No fuck the debate. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #14
we've heard enough. Cancel all debates. AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #15
I really do not give a darn about this debate Gothmog Mar 2020 #20
Just got a text from the Bernie campaign kydemo Mar 2020 #21
I got a call from a Bernie supporter yesterday; LuvNewcastle Mar 2020 #25
Biden is grateful I am sure. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #22
Not really. It shouldn't even happen. IluvPitties Mar 2020 #24
Nope haven't watched any of them. These are not true debates. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #26
Yes, a great deal brokephibroke Mar 2020 #27
Nope.Bernie's done. marble falls Mar 2020 #28
If Trump isn't enough to convince someone to vote for the Democratic nominee, then NOTHING will still_one Mar 2020 #30
We really don't need any more debates.... Historic NY Mar 2020 #34
He won't. BluNoMatterHu Mar 2020 #49
I don't care for the debate NCProgressive Mar 2020 #36
"I don't care about the issues" bS7n40nwc1 Mar 2020 #37
Naked tribalism is what tRump has created SilasSouleII Mar 2020 #67
If Biden and Sanders were diametrically opposed, maybe. I'm looking for a good Democrat ... marble falls Mar 2020 #74
Believe it or not, the reason most of us here... NNadir Mar 2020 #93
Thank you for saying what I was thinking. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #102
No Bc804 Mar 2020 #39
Yes, Sanders did Biden a huge favor this morning... zaj Mar 2020 #40
I'm good with Joe. hay rick Mar 2020 #41
debate pamdb Mar 2020 #42
Yes. I want to see how Biden can handle one on one. jalan48 Mar 2020 #43
Yes, I would think that people would be interested in that Perseus Mar 2020 #57
Perhaps they are worried about how he will perform. jalan48 Mar 2020 #62
Worried about how Bernie will perform SilasSouleII Mar 2020 #70
I hope so. No where to hide this time. jalan48 Mar 2020 #79
I want to see it too. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #72
Here's what I want mountain grammy Mar 2020 #45
If anything it will help joe biden. drray23 Mar 2020 #46
I wish Sanders had dropped out and got behind Joe amuse bouche Mar 2020 #48
No, I don't. And for all I know one of them could be asymptomatic. 58Sunliner Mar 2020 #50
we we already know everything Bernie will say Skittles Mar 2020 #51
well...fuck yeah....I care. slingsam Mar 2020 #52
I am just disgusted that Bernie is insisting on it. What is the point? SunSeeker Mar 2020 #53
I like Sanders, but Biden has the best chance to beat Evil. OverBurn Mar 2020 #55
They did worse than that Aquaria Mar 2020 #84
NO ashredux Mar 2020 #56
Most people have made up their minds. herding cats Mar 2020 #58
No, the covid-19 outbreak won't help Bernie dansolo Mar 2020 #91
Pas moi. Mme. Defarge Mar 2020 #59
No, it will only be the pundits treestar Mar 2020 #60
Nope, not me. CaptainTruth Mar 2020 #61
Only if they change the name MyNameGoesHere Mar 2020 #63
Yes, I care. Martin Eden Mar 2020 #64
This debate will do NOTHING but hurt our chances of winning in November. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #65
We Don't Need No Stinkin Debate Because the Voters Have Already Decided OldManTarHeel Mar 2020 #68
Yes, I am eager to hear our next President speak coherently, elleng Mar 2020 #69
Wow. Just fucking wow. This is some of the most un-democratic crap I've ever witnessed. Evolve Dammit Mar 2020 #71
People tend not to respect sore losers Aquaria Mar 2020 #85
As I previously posted, it's not over. Get used to it. Evolve Dammit Mar 2020 #109
No, what's undemocratic is trying to divide the Democratic party when you know you can't win Happyhippychick Mar 2020 #89
FFS If two dems debating divides the party we are done anyway. nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #90
No, 2 Dems debating is not what is dividing the party. One independent refusing to accept reality is Happyhippychick Mar 2020 #92
If Joe can't deal with a debate with Bernie then we are in fucking trouble. Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #94
What are you really concerned about? I'm not worried, I just think it's pointless and divisive. Happyhippychick Mar 2020 #95
Good prep work IMO. Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #96
Prep for what? He's going to be the nominee. He has been in gov't for decades. You think one Happyhippychick Mar 2020 #97
No, but good experience for Joe. Nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #98
It is not over. There is a democratic process at work here. Evolve Dammit Mar 2020 #108
NO. These two need to work out their differences and get back to us. What does Joe want from Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2020 #75
No not really interested. I have heard all of Bernie's big plans a hundred times but doc03 Mar 2020 #76
Irrelevant. Voters has spoken. Sanders lost. LizBeth Mar 2020 #77
Yes, they should cancel debate altogether onetexan Mar 2020 #82
Cancel the fucking thing njhoneybadger Mar 2020 #78
Not even a little. NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #80
Nope, cuz it doesn't change anything for Sanders. The math is what the math is. n/t Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #81
No. n/t alittlelark Mar 2020 #86
No -- I rarely care about debates, period anyway obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #87
K&R..been with Joe day one...nothing could change our minds..either... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #99
Of course. I try to be civically engaged. aikoaiko Mar 2020 #100
Waste of time........... Tenngal Mar 2020 #101
Bidden is a great streetfighter and Trump is a bully who folds like a cheap suit if he's directly .. marble falls Mar 2020 #107
No ... CatMor Mar 2020 #103
Yes pattyloutwo Mar 2020 #104
I do. I want to see if Sanders is smart and uses it as a platform to push.. LAS14 Mar 2020 #105
If sanders stays in much longer, he will lose leverage Gothmog Mar 2020 #106
I care n/t Devil Child Mar 2020 #110
Nope. McCamy Taylor Mar 2020 #111
now that sanders has crono Apr 2020 #112
 

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,192 posts)
1. Maybe Bernie thinks this is his last hurrah
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:37 PM
Mar 2020

He will most likely get destroyed at the polls on Tuesday, so let him have this. Biden will have no problem defending himself and the party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
3. Yep. Bernie is going to let loose with everything he has at the debate.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:39 PM
Mar 2020

I hope his heart can take it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Funtatlaguy

(11,801 posts)
11. Silver lining. It's Good practice for Joe for the general.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:53 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

More_Cowbell

(2,206 posts)
16. There's no way Trump will participate in a debate
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:59 PM
Mar 2020

He's too far gone. Biden won't need the practice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Jarqui

(10,503 posts)
47. Agree. Trump's bone spurs can't handle such a thing nt
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:21 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wprice2

(13 posts)
54. Trump will win every debate unfortunately
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:48 PM
Mar 2020

When you debate someone as immature and a cult leader, you really can't lose. Hillary in a way "lost" every debate with this idiot just because he is so base, infantile and likes working the audience. The media adored and lavished him.

He will do the same with Joe, but people really should not concentrate on any Presidential debates to "win." Just GOTV -everybody!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jarqui

(10,503 posts)
66. Very different situation this time
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:17 PM
Mar 2020

The "fake news" knows a lot more about him

Now, he has a record he has to defend. Probably 20,000 lies to defend by then.

Joe goes into that debate loaded with zingers and starts pushing Trump's buttons. We know Trump's volcanic because he can't handle much. He's a mental midget. Call him on his BS and he'll go off. It was harder for Hillary because he had no governing record.

He can't end the press conference - he's got to stand there and take it.

You get him like that and he'll blow. Biden will win the debate and Trump will be exposed for the uncool fool he is - to many of his own supporters.

Hillary had a lot more baggage going into her debates. Joe doesn't have that. Not nearly as much. Hillary was a woman. Trump a misogynist. Biden is the candidate Trump fears most.

Trump is not the candidate of change this time. He's the incumbent.
He's got a nasty temper. Time for America to see it.

I think Trump will find some petty excuse not to debate before the three debates are done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
88. I think you are right. Debating someone with no record
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 05:22 AM
Mar 2020

whatsoever takes a completely different approach. It would be interesting to rewatch HRC debates with him. And that was when we were still living in the "dignified gloves still on world" with him.

If there is a Joe/Donny debate, I hope they don't try to make Joe recall a lot of numbers. Just main themes..."that is NOT true, it is much higher or much lower" said with utter incredulity will do.

And hope like hell someone digs into what trump has reversed on regulations. Gold mine. And you know trump hasn't a clue about what he actually got rid of. Like Obama's reg that stopped coal companies from dumping sludge with known cancer causing materials into our water. Mentioning this would really catch him flat footed

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

maxsolomon

(35,298 posts)
73. "The media adored and lavished (praise on) him"?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:33 PM
Mar 2020

Where did you see that? I get your frustration with "Media", but I never heard or read that. I don't watch the Right Wing Noise Machine, however.

"Welcome to DU".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. It is. Last campaign. Last debate. Last dance. Last chance for romance to night.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:05 PM
Mar 2020

Someone left his cake out in the rain and it took so long to bake it and he'll never have that recipe again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LuvNewcastle

(17,038 posts)
23. Somebody has spent a little time in gay bars.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:21 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
29. LOL!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:38 PM
Mar 2020

I raised two gay boys.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LuvNewcastle

(17,038 posts)
33. Well they were lucky to have a cool mom.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:47 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
31. Really? I thought those were discos where I was dancing to that music! n/t
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:44 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LuvNewcastle

(17,038 posts)
32. Was it raining men in those places?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:46 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

C Moon

(12,596 posts)
44. He thought Tuesday was going to be his big comeback. Now he hopes the debate will do it?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:16 PM
Mar 2020

I'm starting to think his ego is at play here—and it's more important to him than what is best for our dying nation.

His followers are already spreading GOP lead phrases against Biden—and many are posting them here. I'm seeing them on in meme format on FB by Bernie people, as well.

The GOP is using Bernie, I wish people would stop and think before they post that bull.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(34,793 posts)
2. No.. don't care..don't want to hear sanders spout off about anything..he should drop out!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:38 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,147 posts)
4. Me too. I hope it gives Biden a chance to lay out his pragmatic and progressive policies and to
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:39 PM
Mar 2020

reiterate his far superior qualifications, experience, and job-specific knowledge, so superior he
will have to go a little easy so as not to make Sanders seem sympathetic for lack of them and of accomplishment too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yaesu

(8,318 posts)
6. only if MSM doesn't control it like the other debates. nt
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:40 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,192 posts)
7. Yeah, 30 seconds and it's "OK, Thank you!"
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:42 PM
Mar 2020

WTF....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
18. So basically you want Bernie to moderate the debate
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:01 PM
Mar 2020

Anything short of that is the “MSM” controlling it. Understood

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demguy81

(93 posts)
8. I just want to see a rational
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:45 PM
Mar 2020

and spirited debate between two great democrats, without an audience. Hopefully that will cut down on the bombast, and they can focus on policy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lillypaddle

(9,605 posts)
35. Who is the other democrat
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:59 PM
Mar 2020

besides Joe?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
83. Well, if you wanted a great debate between two Democrats
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:02 AM
Mar 2020

You will be sorely disappointed.

The last chance for that was when Warren was still in the race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,188 posts)
9. I'll admit
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:45 PM
Mar 2020

I'd feel a lot more comfortable if Joe Biden can do well in a one-on-one debate with Bernie throwing everything he can at Joe. We know Trump isn't going to hold back on anything if the two of them debate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
17. Same...although it also gives the Trump camp an idea how to prepare for Biden
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:01 PM
Mar 2020

Biden doesn't need to respond to every point. That's where many debaters get in trouble while under attack. Just stick to your positives and make them in brief memorable style. When I'd host the debate watching parties it was amazing how frequently they responded preferably to a short response after a longwinded barrage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
10. The race is over.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:50 PM
Mar 2020

This is just desperation; hoping that Biden will step on his dick. He won’t.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

radical noodle

(8,770 posts)
12. I probably won't watch
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:54 PM
Mar 2020

but if I do, it won't mean anything. I've already cast my early vote in Florida for Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TryLogic

(1,905 posts)
13. I'm not at all interested. We have heard from both of them. We know where they stand.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:55 PM
Mar 2020

I think the only potential result is some nastiness that will come across badly. I hate that Biden attacks Sanders' ideas as totally unrealistic. I wish they could show some cooperation toward problem solving in the areas of health care, college debts, etc. I don't want to even imagine how this debate is likely to go.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(71,033 posts)
14. No fuck the debate.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:56 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,273 posts)
15. we've heard enough. Cancel all debates.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:58 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(155,301 posts)
20. I really do not give a darn about this debate
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:16 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kydemo

(34 posts)
21. Just got a text from the Bernie campaign
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020

asking for my support in the upcoming primaries. I complemented her on her service, passion and advocacy, but my wife and I were both committed Biden voters. And the Bernie campaign need not text us anymore. She said that our names would be taken off the list but she recommended us watch the debate on Sunday because we might change our minds. I told her we would be watching but nothing in the debate would change our minds because a debate was just one type of measurement. We had already decided based upon Bden's years of achieving things that Bernie only talked about. Action over rhetoric.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LuvNewcastle

(17,038 posts)
25. I got a call from a Bernie supporter yesterday;
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:34 PM
Mar 2020

we had our primary yesterday. I told her I had already voted for Biden, but thanks anyway. She said "okay, well you have a good evening," and I said "you too," and we hung up. Even though I don't support Bernie, I hated to tell her that. It's hard to campaign for a losing candidate, and I felt like I was hurting her feelings.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
22. Biden is grateful I am sure.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
24. Not really. It shouldn't even happen.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:22 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,498 posts)
26. Nope haven't watched any of them. These are not true debates.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:35 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brokephibroke

(1,884 posts)
27. Yes, a great deal
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:36 PM
Mar 2020

It’s warm up for trump. I hope bernie is tough on Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marble falls

(62,441 posts)
28. Nope.Bernie's done.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:37 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(96,792 posts)
30. If Trump isn't enough to convince someone to vote for the Democratic nominee, then NOTHING will
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:39 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Historic NY

(38,007 posts)
34. We really don't need any more debates....
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 05:51 PM
Mar 2020

I resent the fact the Sanders want to prolong and then tell Biden what progressives want. To the victor goes the spoils. I'm sure Joe Biden will deal with the issues when they come up. Now Sanders needs to muzzle his pit bulls, whose only mission is to attack Democrats. Especially Thelma & Lousie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BluNoMatterHu

(31 posts)
49. He won't.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:27 PM
Mar 2020

He didn’t think about what’s good for the party in 2016 and he won’t do it now. I was once a Bernie supporter but I saw how mean and selfish he can be. I get nothing but good vibes from Biden. He’s tried and true!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
36. I don't care for the debate
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:01 PM
Mar 2020

It is a trap to make Biden make some fatal gaffe so they can either dream of defeating him or weakening him to get a bargaining position which they currently don't have.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bS7n40nwc1

(4 posts)
37. "I don't care about the issues"
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:01 PM
Mar 2020

This is surely among the most dispiriting things I've read in a political context. What's left to politics if the issues are stripped away? Just naked tribalism? We can do better than that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SilasSouleII

(448 posts)
67. Naked tribalism is what tRump has created
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:19 PM
Mar 2020

Our issues really don't matter if he is re-elected. Laser focus on getting Joe elected supersedes any issue right now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marble falls

(62,441 posts)
74. If Biden and Sanders were diametrically opposed, maybe. I'm looking for a good Democrat ...
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:39 PM
Mar 2020

you aren't suggesting either one of them of not being a good Democrat, are you???

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NNadir

(34,779 posts)
93. Believe it or not, the reason most of us here...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:50 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:31 AM - Edit history (1)

...are Democrats is very much involved with issues as opposed to cults of personality.

I think we understand issues and vote accordingly.

Some of us object to being told how stupid we are because we didn't vote for an outsider who burst into our party to lecture us on what's wrong with us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,498 posts)
102. Thank you for saying what I was thinking.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:05 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bc804

(12 posts)
39. No
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:03 PM
Mar 2020

As of a week ago, the entire Republican party is gearing up to defeat Joe Biden. But by all means, let's have Biden "explain himself" to the landslide loser who spent the last year shrinking his voting base because he still hasn't been heard

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
40. Yes, Sanders did Biden a huge favor this morning...
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:04 PM
Mar 2020

... he subtly setup the debate as an opportunity for Biden to be able to win over Sanders voters.

It will matter to success in uniting the party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hay rick

(8,280 posts)
41. I'm good with Joe.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:09 PM
Mar 2020

Joe wasn't my first, second or third pick- but they were all gone so I voted for Joe. I'm also ok with Bernie- I just think he's toast.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pamdb

(1,382 posts)
42. debate
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:10 PM
Mar 2020

I just want Joe not to lose his cool, he's got a bit of a temper it seems.

And please, cut out the "man" it's sooooooo 50's. I am so so glad he's back, we both voted for him in the michigan primary. From the beginning I've said Biden and Harris. As much as I'd like to see Harris slice and dice the big orange fuck off in a debate, I'll take her taking on pious Pence.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(14,500 posts)
43. Yes. I want to see how Biden can handle one on one.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:15 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
57. Yes, I would think that people would be interested in that
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:50 PM
Mar 2020

I mean, if he shits his pants with Sanders, imagine what he will do when he is in front of the creature...I think it is a good test, not sure why some people think its not important.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jalan48

(14,500 posts)
62. Perhaps they are worried about how he will perform.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:03 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SilasSouleII

(448 posts)
70. Worried about how Bernie will perform
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:26 PM
Mar 2020

Waving his arms, wagging his finger, peeling his eyes...

Joe will be just fine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jalan48

(14,500 posts)
79. I hope so. No where to hide this time.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 08:15 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mysteryowl

(7,752 posts)
72. I want to see it too.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:29 PM
Mar 2020

I want to see the differences in positions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mountain grammy

(27,356 posts)
45. Here's what I want
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:19 PM
Mar 2020

I’d like to see Joe and Bernie sitting at a table telling Americans what trump is doing to our government and our country. Point by point, agency by agency, tell people what’s happening and how it will affect their lives. Describe the people he’s appointed. Name names, describing their backgrounds and things they’ve said.
Then describe how we can repair the huge damages done to our democracy and our planet. Just two old statesmen telling it like it is. My dream.

Forward!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

drray23

(8,000 posts)
46. If anything it will help joe biden.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:20 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie will predictably rattle his usual stump speech. Joe will be in command of the facts and put to rest the notion that he is cognitively challenged.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

amuse bouche

(3,665 posts)
48. I wish Sanders had dropped out and got behind Joe
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:25 PM
Mar 2020

I will watch

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

58Sunliner

(4,993 posts)
50. No, I don't. And for all I know one of them could be asymptomatic.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:38 PM
Mar 2020

For the sake of everyone it should not happen. That Bernie wants to insist is BS. We are having a pandemic. Get real about our priorities. Bernie's are questionable at this point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(160,142 posts)
51. we we already know everything Bernie will say
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:38 PM
Mar 2020

really not much point to it

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

slingsam

(374 posts)
52. well...fuck yeah....I care.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:45 PM
Mar 2020

I expect Senator Sanders.....to concede.....on National TV...…...graciously.....on Sunday and to announce, that he is throwing his entire support......to President-Elect Joseph R. Biden, to beat, Donald Jackass Trump...….like a drum.

Would that not be heroic? And Noble.

Joey....is the only one I know....who can effectively tell.....the Jackass....how full of shit, he is!!!!

And Malarkey!


And Bernie...…...is a good man.
Let's all...together....
DUMP TRUMP!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SunSeeker

(53,986 posts)
53. I am just disgusted that Bernie is insisting on it. What is the point?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:45 PM
Mar 2020

Stir more shit? Do we really need that?

Bernie should have shown some class and suspended his campaign today.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OverBurn

(1,103 posts)
55. I like Sanders, but Biden has the best chance to beat Evil.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:49 PM
Mar 2020

I'd be for Sander if he had a chance to win, I don't believe a self proclaimed Socialist can win in America. Personally, to me it's just a word. We are a "socialist" country to start with IMO.

I still blame the butt hurt Sanders supporters for letting Trump win last time. They refused to vote because Hillary won the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
84. They did worse than that
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:08 AM
Mar 2020

12% voted for him.

Even more voted third party.

Must be nice to be so privileged that they can throw women, minorities, LGBTs, workers, the sick, the elderly, the poor, the environment, education and etc under the bus to maintain their ideological "purity."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

herding cats

(19,619 posts)
58. Most people have made up their minds.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:55 PM
Mar 2020

Hearing a rerun of their campaign issues isn't going to change them at this point.

I know some are saying the COVID-19 outbreak will help Bernie, but I'm not seeing it happening. The core of his supporters are of an age they aren't that concerned about it. It just seems ghoulish to even go there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dansolo

(5,385 posts)
91. No, the covid-19 outbreak won't help Bernie
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:40 AM
Mar 2020

Joe will be much more reassuring. People want leadership. I don't think the idea of dismantling our entire healthcare system during a global pandemic is going to appeal to anyone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
60. No, it will only be the pundits
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:01 PM
Mar 2020

jumping on something to make it a horse race, which means they will attack Biden with anything they can come up with. They need some reason to make an exciting narrative that Bernie can come back and win it. This debate serves no purpose but to get them ratings and something to bloviate about.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
63. Only if they change the name
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:04 PM
Mar 2020

To "The Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. is going to be the nominee and that other guy is going to be there" debate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Martin Eden

(13,549 posts)
64. Yes, I care.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:08 PM
Mar 2020

Maybe not for the reason you think.

I care about how our candidates are presented to the public, and I especially want to see unity on the central task of defeating Trump.

If this debate is anything like the last one, the moderators will try to to elicit controversy and personal attacks.

Kudos to the candidate(s) who rise above that bait and emphasize the central task -- including how much both wings of our party have in common compared to their "colleagues" across the aisle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ferrets are Cool

(21,972 posts)
65. This debate will do NOTHING but hurt our chances of winning in November.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:10 PM
Mar 2020

Slinging mud is not good for the party. But then again, one of the ones on stage is NOT in my party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OldManTarHeel

(435 posts)
68. We Don't Need No Stinkin Debate Because the Voters Have Already Decided
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:20 PM
Mar 2020


#GOJoe
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

elleng

(136,689 posts)
69. Yes, I am eager to hear our next President speak coherently,
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:24 PM
Mar 2020

ASAP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Evolve Dammit

(18,999 posts)
71. Wow. Just fucking wow. This is some of the most un-democratic crap I've ever witnessed.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:27 PM
Mar 2020

You really think no debate is what democracy is about?? Some of these posts are pathetic.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
85. People tend not to respect sore losers
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 03:14 AM
Mar 2020

Whose self-serving pride refuses to let them concede a loss in a gracious way.

Get used to it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Evolve Dammit

(18,999 posts)
109. As I previously posted, it's not over. Get used to it.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 06:40 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Happyhippychick

(8,422 posts)
89. No, what's undemocratic is trying to divide the Democratic party when you know you can't win
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:08 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
90. FFS If two dems debating divides the party we are done anyway. nt
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:26 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happyhippychick

(8,422 posts)
92. No, 2 Dems debating is not what is dividing the party. One independent refusing to accept reality is
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 07:44 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
94. If Joe can't deal with a debate with Bernie then we are in fucking trouble. Nt
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:22 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happyhippychick

(8,422 posts)
95. What are you really concerned about? I'm not worried, I just think it's pointless and divisive.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:53 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
96. Good prep work IMO. Nt
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:55 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happyhippychick

(8,422 posts)
97. Prep for what? He's going to be the nominee. He has been in gov't for decades. You think one
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:57 AM
Mar 2020

debate is going to move the needle?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
98. No, but good experience for Joe. Nt
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:57 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Evolve Dammit

(18,999 posts)
108. It is not over. There is a democratic process at work here.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 06:39 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,891 posts)
75. NO. These two need to work out their differences and get back to us. What does Joe want from
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:41 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie, what does Bernie want from Joe.

WORK IT OUT GUYS. iTS not my job to figure it out for you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

doc03

(36,863 posts)
76. No not really interested. I have heard all of Bernie's big plans a hundred times but
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:49 PM
Mar 2020

none of them will ever get passed unless we had some kind of super majority in the House and Senate.
I just want an adult in the Whitehouse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LizBeth

(10,884 posts)
77. Irrelevant. Voters has spoken. Sanders lost.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:54 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,911 posts)
82. Yes, they should cancel debate altogether
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:31 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

njhoneybadger

(3,911 posts)
78. Cancel the fucking thing
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 08:02 PM
Mar 2020

Let Bernie debate Tulsi Gabbard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(8,522 posts)
80. Not even a little. NT
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 08:16 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,443 posts)
81. Nope, cuz it doesn't change anything for Sanders. The math is what the math is. n/t
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 02:01 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

obamanut2012

(27,860 posts)
87. No -- I rarely care about debates, period anyway
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:43 AM
Mar 2020

But this one? No.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
99. K&R..been with Joe day one...nothing could change our minds..either...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:58 AM
Mar 2020

We voted for joe in Mich...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,204 posts)
100. Of course. I try to be civically engaged.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:02 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tenngal

(19 posts)
101. Waste of time...........
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:04 AM
Mar 2020

Joe Biden needs to work on Trump, not Sanders. Sanders has lost.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marble falls

(62,441 posts)
107. Bidden is a great streetfighter and Trump is a bully who folds like a cheap suit if he's directly ..
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:49 PM
Mar 2020

confronted. He does not handle face to face conflict at all. All Joe's got to do is be Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
103. No ...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:07 AM
Mar 2020

I pretty much know where they stand already. I am for Joe Biden all the way and it won't change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pattyloutwo

(413 posts)
104. Yes
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:24 AM
Mar 2020

I care, it’s good practice - which Biden needs; I’m surprised at how many here are against it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LAS14

(14,762 posts)
105. I do. I want to see if Sanders is smart and uses it as a platform to push..
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:26 AM
Mar 2020

... for his ideas and stays far away from attacking Biden personally.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(155,301 posts)
106. If sanders stays in much longer, he will lose leverage
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:47 PM
Mar 2020

sanders not dropping out may help Biden. sanders keeps on losing primaries by large margins nnly strenghten's Joe's position https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/11/no-surprise-bernie-sanders-is-still-all-about-himself-never-party/

Sanders’s remaining in the race should serve several salutary purposes for the party and the country. First, seeing him lose overwhelmingly week after week will dispel the notion that the Democratic Party has moved left, or that he is in a dominant position to negotiate with the overwhelming winner. It’s not clear why the Biden camp should “give” Sanders anything.

Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....

Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left — hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) — will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.

Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sunday’s debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crono

(81 posts)
112. now that sanders has
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:55 PM
Apr 2020

officially dropped out, when will the first debate between Biden and trump be?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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