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Polls are disastrous for Sanders...Today's Real Clear Politics (Original Post) Demsrule86 Mar 2020 OP
Maybe, just maybe, for some self-centered reasons, BS will get the hints empedocles Mar 2020 #1
A brick wall has fallen on Sanders...and it is almost sad to see him continuing... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #6
it's not sad, it's pathetic. Grumpy uncle's pride is obstinate as ever. onetexan Mar 2020 #11
It really is pathetic...he should concede with dignity. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #19
Bernie is done duforsure Mar 2020 #2
He has no chance and no real leverage. His voters didn't show up. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #7
Sanders will get shutout the rest of the way. honest.abe Mar 2020 #3
It will only get worse...we need to vote in huge numbers to show Sanders the door...with every Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #8
Maybe I am overly optimistic... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #4
I am hoping you are right...I would think it would awful for him with these numbers which will get Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #10
I agree. beastie boy Mar 2020 #15
He looks desperate...and they should fix his makeup...it is truly awful lately...way to flushed. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #20
Biden is polling over 50% in all four states MineralMan Mar 2020 #5
It will be a sweep. I would think Sanders would spare himself such a humiliating loss. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #9
I think Bernie knows that he can't win. MineralMan Mar 2020 #12
Which raises a question.... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #13
I have no idea what Senator Sanders thinks when he's alone in his room. MineralMan Mar 2020 #14
I believe the revolution/movement is dead...if it ever lived...a bunch of kids getting together Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #21
I voted for Biden in Florida yesterday. This week is early voting. katmondoo Mar 2020 #16
In this case, I'm glad Florida starts early voting just before the election. MineralMan Mar 2020 #17
Florida runs early voting for 11 days and stops at the end of the Blue_true Mar 2020 #29
Good for you! Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #22
I was thinking the polls were unreliable now treestar Mar 2020 #18
Yep...and the polls last time underestimated Biden. For example, he won Washington and likely won Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #23
The virus really turned the tide. ucrdem Mar 2020 #24
Short Video of Sanders' Headquarters in Various States Denis Enko Mar 2020 #25
Message to Sanders...let's not meet again ever! Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #26
Florida will be interesting Gothmog Mar 2020 #27
Yes it will. He will be destroyed in Florida. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #28
I also take these three polls collectively as a sign that Biden may win FL in the GE, but have more coti Mar 2020 #30
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. Maybe, just maybe, for some self-centered reasons, BS will get the hints
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:14 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
6. A brick wall has fallen on Sanders...and it is almost sad to see him continuing...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:21 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,859 posts)
11. it's not sad, it's pathetic. Grumpy uncle's pride is obstinate as ever.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:29 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
19. It really is pathetic...he should concede with dignity.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:05 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. Bernie is done
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:15 AM
Mar 2020

And has burned too many bridges with both parties, and why so many are running from supporting him now. The numbers don't lie, his chances are gone.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
7. He has no chance and no real leverage. His voters didn't show up.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:22 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
3. Sanders will get shutout the rest of the way.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:17 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
8. It will only get worse...we need to vote in huge numbers to show Sanders the door...with every
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:23 AM
Mar 2020

victory, the next one will be even bigger as winning has its own momentum.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(8,302 posts)
4. Maybe I am overly optimistic...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:20 AM
Mar 2020

.... but I get the feeling this last debate will be Bernie's Swan Song. It'll be his last chance to hog the lime light, tell us how sick and tired he is, wave his arms and poke at the "establishment." I think he knows it's over, but wants to frame his exit. I think he will lose Arizona to boot. GO Mark Kelly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
10. I am hoping you are right...I would think it would awful for him with these numbers which will get
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:26 AM
Mar 2020

worse IMHO.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beastie boy

(11,027 posts)
15. I agree.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:53 AM
Mar 2020

Every time he claims victory in the face of clear defeat, he only destroys his credibility further. This process takes Bernie in the direction of eventually running out of all credibility and relevance. It's likely, depending on how he comes across in the next debate, that Bernie will accelerate this process to the point of no return.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
20. He looks desperate...and they should fix his makeup...it is truly awful lately...way to flushed.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:07 AM
Mar 2020

I hope he goes away and gets some rest...not looking well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
5. Biden is polling over 50% in all four states
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:21 AM
Mar 2020

that hold primaries next Tuesday. It will be a sweep for Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
9. It will be a sweep. I would think Sanders would spare himself such a humiliating loss.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:25 AM
Mar 2020

He must know he is finished.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
12. I think Bernie knows that he can't win.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:32 AM
Mar 2020

He seems to want to press on, in hopes of having some clout at the convention, as he did in 2016. I don't think that's going to work, though, in 2020.

He's going to lose most primaries from now on massively, I believe. The voters have moved on. He is just banging his head against the ceiling that has always been there this year. It was masked by voters choosing other candidates in a multi-candidate race. Someone pointed out that 40% of the mail-in ballots in Washington state were for candidates other than Bernie and Biden. That will no longer be the case in upcoming primaries.

So, Sanders will get his 30-something percent, which is his ceiling, and Biden will get the rest. Actually, his ceiling is likely to drop below 30% if momentum holds for Joe.

How long will Sanders stick to it? I don't know. Maybe up to the beginning of the convention. I fully expect Biden to have a majority of pledged delegates by then. Further, delegates pledged to candidates no longer running may switch to Biden on the first ballot, which would make his majority even larger. I'm not quite sure what the convention rules will be for delegates pledged to withdrawn candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(8,302 posts)
13. Which raises a question....
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:34 AM
Mar 2020

How humiliating will it be to do his last spiel, and then get swept. What message does that send about the importance of his "movement." Does it make him more irrelvant?

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MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
14. I have no idea what Senator Sanders thinks when he's alone in his room.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:41 AM
Mar 2020

I have no way to know that. It takes a lot of chutzpah to run for President. He might have enough of that to be able to internally dismiss disappointment. Or not. I cannot know.

As for his "movement," it really isn't his, in the end. The leftmost end of the political spectrum exists independently of candidates, really. It's always there. That small segment of this country has adopted Bernie Sanders as its representative, but the adoption isn't final yet.

Part of that segment, when it comes to voting, will stay away from the polls or vote for whatever third party candidate is out there. They think it is a protest vote, but it's really a vote against their own principles. Some people do not vote rationally.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
21. I believe the revolution/movement is dead...if it ever lived...a bunch of kids getting together
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:09 AM
Mar 2020

for rallies...my big sis and her friends used to walk out of class...a signal would be given somehow and everyone would get up and walk out...for whatever protest there was mostly just sitting around and getting high...it is sort of the same thing with Sanders...and that is why they don't show up at the polls. I was so jealous...by the time I came around...walking out of class would mean suspension and maybe expulsion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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katmondoo

(6,492 posts)
16. I voted for Biden in Florida yesterday. This week is early voting.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:57 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
17. In this case, I'm glad Florida starts early voting just before the election.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:58 AM
Mar 2020

That way, people know who is still running. Biden's going to win Florida overwhelmingly.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
29. Florida runs early voting for 11 days and stops at the end of the
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:08 PM
Mar 2020

Friday before Election Day. So the last day of early voting here in Florida was yesterday. Voting actually started on March 2, the day before Super Tuesday. Biden should have gotten a big lift in Florida early voting because almost all of it occurred after all candidates that endorsed him had dropped out (the exception was Bloomberg, who dropped out on Match 4).

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Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
22. Good for you!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:10 AM
Mar 2020

I voted in Ohio for Biden early too.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. I was thinking the polls were unreliable now
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:59 AM
Mar 2020

But these margins are very large.

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Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
23. Yep...and the polls last time underestimated Biden. For example, he won Washington and likely won
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:11 AM
Mar 2020

or tied California.

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ucrdem

(15,700 posts)
24. The virus really turned the tide.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:12 AM
Mar 2020

Exit pollsters on Super Tuesday said a lot of voters are worried and the ones who do favor Biden. That plus Clyburn plus SC plus a couple of good debates and presto, it's Biden day, woo hoo!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Denis Enko

(81 posts)
25. Short Video of Sanders' Headquarters in Various States
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:15 AM
Mar 2020


Actually, Bernie, after Tuesday, let's not meet again!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
26. Message to Sanders...let's not meet again ever!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:10 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(153,882 posts)
27. Florida will be interesting
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:49 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(70,914 posts)
28. Yes it will. He will be destroyed in Florida.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:14 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

coti

(4,625 posts)
30. I also take these three polls collectively as a sign that Biden may win FL in the GE, but have more
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:11 PM
Mar 2020

trouble with WI.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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