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538 polls devastating for Sanders Today's numbers and chance of winning the nomination is 0... (Original Post) Demsrule86 Mar 2020 OP
I'll be so glad DemKittyNC Mar 2020 #1
I am completely sick of Sanders...he needs to go away and maybe do his job in the Senate...no excuse Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #6
What job? Aquaria Mar 2020 #26
My cat is very intelligent and might be able to handle the job...she is not lazy...haha Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #27
Why is "no one" an option? dawg day Mar 2020 #2
"No one" means nobody gets a majority. honest.abe Mar 2020 #3
I think this options was put out there in the event of a brokered convention. 33taw Mar 2020 #4
It always is an option but almost zero...just like Sander's chances. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #5
No one meant that many nominees would share the delegates with no one above 50 % karynnj Mar 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #7
You forget, he's a revolutionary leader. If he can't lead Hortensis Mar 2020 #9
I remember and the last week of the general...he was saying shit about Hillary and the party. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #11
Yes! I remember quite well how long it took him to grudgingly pivot to Hillary. Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #40
It is noteworthy that Sanders and Bros. attack Democrats far more often than Republicans. dalton99a Mar 2020 #15
It seems to be a manifestation of "self hate." Wish I Hortensis Mar 2020 #17
It shows who they are and who they really support. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #19
Who else was a revolutionary leader? LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #22
This is the Democratic Party...revolutionary leaders who help Republicans need to go away and soon. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #24
Apparently he wants a showdown desperately. It's what he does. He'll tr... brush Mar 2020 #31
Well the point now is not to try to win awesomerwb1 Mar 2020 #8
I don't know how we deal with this sort of thing...honestly...his favorability is in the trash... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #13
Sanders is better known now. That's not good for him, Hortensis Mar 2020 #18
Maybe by the end, he will not have enough voters with him to harm our chances in November. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #20
Well, Dems drawn to his official messages will vote Dem in the GE. Hortensis Mar 2020 #25
Much better known then he was in 2016. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #23
+1. Sirota sent out a tweetstorm full of lies about Hillary on the eve of the election dalton99a Mar 2020 #16
Sirota can fuck off...I hate that guy. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #21
The debate is going to turn this around! treestar Mar 2020 #12
Yeah because debates matter so so much...ha Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #14
Bernie's finished duforsure Mar 2020 #28
He is finished. And too bad to go out on this note...he has had a long career and all. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #30
Sanders knows he can't win now. Lanius Mar 2020 #29
Go Joe Biden! Cha Mar 2020 #32
LOL sanders staying in the primary fight will only hurt him down the road Gothmog Mar 2020 #33
Those are very good points and I think you are correct. I do fear Sanders attacking Biden Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #38
How do you demand concessions when you're getting the brake beat off of you? Gothmog Mar 2020 #39
I wonder if Bernie still believes that the person with the most votes ecstatic Mar 2020 #34
He said so a few days ago. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #37
Sanders is now at 0%. Same as Gabbard. honest.abe Mar 2020 #35
Pretty shocking...and Sander is still thinking he has some sort of leverage. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #36
 

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
1. I'll be so glad
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:22 AM
Mar 2020

When we don’t have to talk about Sanders anymore.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
6. I am completely sick of Sanders...he needs to go away and maybe do his job in the Senate...no excuse
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:28 AM
Mar 2020

now for him not to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
26. What job?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:25 AM
Mar 2020

My cat could do what he does there. And she’s the laziest cat ever born.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
27. My cat is very intelligent and might be able to handle the job...she is not lazy...haha
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:28 AM
Mar 2020

Seriously, you are right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
2. Why is "no one" an option?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:24 AM
Mar 2020

I hope there's not even a 1/100 chance that the election will be canceled. Then again, Trump could decide to outlaw the Democratic party, taking his cue from Putin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
3. "No one" means nobody gets a majority.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:25 AM
Mar 2020

Which is unlikely now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

33taw

(2,818 posts)
4. I think this options was put out there in the event of a brokered convention.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:26 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
5. It always is an option but almost zero...just like Sander's chances.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:27 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

karynnj

(59,943 posts)
10. No one meant that many nominees would share the delegates with no one above 50 %
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:51 AM
Mar 2020

At one point, that was likely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Demsrule86 (Original post)

 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. You forget, he's a revolutionary leader. If he can't lead
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:50 AM
Mar 2020

a revolution against our own party from within, he can still attack it from within. As we saw not just in 2016, but ever since. This is a continuation, as is Russia's assistance.

Btw, anyone remember summer of 2016, when we were in battle with Repub-Russia for the future of our nation? Sanders had lost but used his presidential candidate pulpit to claim the Democratic Party was soooo corrupt that it needed to halt the national campaigns and instead focus inward to root out everything wrong with us and rebuild our party. We were the big national emergency that had to be addressed before anything good could be accomplished.

Whatever this man's agenda was and is, it is not about keeping Trump out of the presidency and saving progressive liberal government from those determined to destroy it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
11. I remember and the last week of the general...he was saying shit about Hillary and the party.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:59 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:58 PM - Edit history (1)

I never got over this and never will...I am so happy Joe is the nominee and I won't be forced to vote for Sanders...and he needs to consider that there really isn't any revolution and never was.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Vivienne235729

(3,734 posts)
40. Yes! I remember quite well how long it took him to grudgingly pivot to Hillary.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:54 AM
Mar 2020

He lost me then. I actually voted for him in the primaries and was shocked to see such petulant behavior from a man in his position. That was 2016. I have been warning everyone within a 50mi radius of me ever since that he is the worst snake oil salesman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(84,309 posts)
15. It is noteworthy that Sanders and Bros. attack Democrats far more often than Republicans.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:04 AM
Mar 2020

They view the Democratic Party - which they seek to represent - as their mortal enemy

And they rarely say anything negative about Russia.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. It seems to be a manifestation of "self hate." Wish I
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:20 AM
Mar 2020

knew a better term. I don't like that one, but "one way low self esteem can manifest" doesn't quite get the idea across.

But the flip summary of a basic difference between RW and LW radicals/extremists by an expert in political extremism does: That RWers hate everyone else, while LWers hate themselves.

As you're noting, we see this being acted out all the time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
19. It shows who they are and who they really support.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:39 AM
Mar 2020

Think about the left...let's start in 2000...Nader and the left mercilessly attacked Gore...Sarandon was a busy bee (piece of crap) and Bush won...we get United (which the left caused and still has the nerve to complain),two wars, 9-11, Katrina and economic debacle...the GOP also gets judges who are going to overturn Roe I think. Next up Kerry who is beaten up in the primary and abandoned by the left...Michael Moore going around begging for folks to vote for Kerry after he savaged him in the primary...and then 2016 where Stein took enough votes to elect Hillary in the blue wall states and we get Trump, terrible judges, babies in cages...list is too long and now millions are likely to die...so I am sick of the left/Greens who don't vote for us and enable bastards like Trump ...they helped him win just as much as Republicans did .

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LiberalFighter

(53,475 posts)
22. Who else was a revolutionary leader?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:06 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
24. This is the Democratic Party...revolutionary leaders who help Republicans need to go away and soon.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:09 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(57,601 posts)
31. Apparently he wants a showdown desperately. It's what he does. He'll tr...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:22 PM
Mar 2020

to take this all the way to the convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

awesomerwb1

(4,567 posts)
8. Well the point now is not to try to win
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:41 AM
Mar 2020

It's to try to blow up the "establishment". Look at the latest threads/posts from one of BS's more active supporters on DU. "All the way to the convention!" he wrote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
13. I don't know how we deal with this sort of thing...honestly...his favorability is in the trash...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:02 AM
Mar 2020

just have to hope we do it in spite of them...and never allow anyone but a Democrat to run as a Democrat again...and that includes Sanders in Vermont...he can run as an independent next time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Sanders is better known now. That's not good for him,
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:23 AM
Mar 2020

and hopefully over time his acting out will continue to enlighten voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
20. Maybe by the end, he will not have enough voters with him to harm our chances in November.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:40 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Well, Dems drawn to his official messages will vote Dem in the GE.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:20 AM
Mar 2020

We know that. Regardless of how he behaves or misbehaves.

And now millions of additional voters are moving to or returning Democrat to stop what's happening on the right. The kind who used to vote with us to keep extremism in check, before our national electorate was divided and conquered.

As for the small, dysfunctional fringe addicted to opposition to the Democratic Party, who flare eagerly with every lie and fake grievance thrown to them? The ones who cheered the attempt to illicitly steal the 2016 nomination and who promised this year to repeat 2016 in the GE? They love what they see of themselves in their leader.

Oh, well. Btw, the probability that our convention won't be a physical gathering they can act out at before dissipating has to be making some very unhappy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LiberalFighter

(53,475 posts)
23. Much better known then he was in 2016.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:09 AM
Mar 2020

There is a time to get over it. For him it should had been after the 2016 primary was over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(84,309 posts)
16. +1. Sirota sent out a tweetstorm full of lies about Hillary on the eve of the election
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:08 AM
Mar 2020

The "movement" is not about democracy, or decency, or common sense


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
21. Sirota can fuck off...I hate that guy.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:41 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
12. The debate is going to turn this around!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:02 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
14. Yeah because debates matter so so much...ha
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:03 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
28. Bernie's finished
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mar 2020

And if he won't give it up really soon, he'll never get elected again. He's hurting the party acting like he is now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
30. He is finished. And too bad to go out on this note...he has had a long career and all.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:40 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lanius

(629 posts)
29. Sanders knows he can't win now.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:39 AM
Mar 2020

This is all about feeding his ego, attempting to embarrass Biden and burning down the Democratic Party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(154,590 posts)
33. LOL sanders staying in the primary fight will only hurt him down the road
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 04:30 PM
Mar 2020

sanders not dropping out may help Biden. sanders keeps on losing primaries by large margins nnly strenghten's Joe's position https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/11/no-surprise-bernie-sanders-is-still-all-about-himself-never-party/

Sanders’s remaining in the race should serve several salutary purposes for the party and the country. First, seeing him lose overwhelmingly week after week will dispel the notion that the Democratic Party has moved left, or that he is in a dominant position to negotiate with the overwhelming winner. It’s not clear why the Biden camp should “give” Sanders anything.

Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....

Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left — hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) — will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.

Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sunday’s debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
38. Those are very good points and I think you are correct. I do fear Sanders attacking Biden
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:57 PM
Mar 2020

on the left and Trump on the right...but we can't make him get out

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(154,590 posts)
39. How do you demand concessions when you're getting the brake beat off of you?
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:24 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(34,376 posts)
34. I wonder if Bernie still believes that the person with the most votes
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:37 AM
Mar 2020

should automatically win the primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
37. He said so a few days ago.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:54 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
35. Sanders is now at 0%. Same as Gabbard.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:57 AM
Mar 2020

What a pair of losers!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
36. Pretty shocking...and Sander is still thinking he has some sort of leverage.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:53 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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