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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:50 PM Mar 2020

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) mysteryowl Mar 2020 OP
Will find something snowybirdie Mar 2020 #1
Not me. I want to see what Biden says about the issues. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #2
You actively avoided every debate and any source that would have told you? TwilightZone Mar 2020 #10
The truth is, it is hard for me to listen to Biden speaking, so I don't. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #19
See here for a preview of where Biden stands on the issues emulatorloo Mar 2020 #18
Did you happen to miss his website? n/t nolawarlock Mar 2020 #25
Me too! n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #3
I am too. showblue22 Mar 2020 #4
Sorry, not watching...... a kennedy Mar 2020 #5
It will be used as a platform to smear the Democratic party. This charade needs to end. NOW. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #6
I have a different opinion than you. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #14
If you don't know Biden's positions on the issues by now... TwilightZone Mar 2020 #7
You are correct. I am a progressive. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #11
So, you intentionally remain ignorant of the policies of other candidates? TwilightZone Mar 2020 #13
So am i MFM008 Mar 2020 #24
Biden is a moderate and probably conservative on many issues mysteryowl Mar 2020 #36
Is that the excuse for being uninformed nowadays? Sunsky Mar 2020 #34
Thank you! nolawarlock Mar 2020 #26
Really? At this point you don't know Biden's "responses to the issues"? thucythucy Mar 2020 #8
I did not watch the debates with all the fighting. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #12
Well, I'm with you there. thucythucy Mar 2020 #16
I hope the format is reasonable. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #17
I am too. nt yaesu Mar 2020 #9
Great. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #15
Not watching. Same ol' arm waving Bernie. I'll wait for the hightlights, if there are any. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #20
Enjoy it. IluvPitties Mar 2020 #21
Hopefully, he will develop a more progressive ideology. mysteryowl Mar 2020 #22
His ideology is fine dansolo Mar 2020 #31
How about the military? mysteryowl Mar 2020 #35
Me too Raine Mar 2020 #23
I will find something else to do.... chillfactor Mar 2020 #27
Bernie, please don't yell at me. CTyankee Mar 2020 #28
Bernie needs to pass the torch to AOC and step aside. 33taw Mar 2020 #29
Time to put Sanders to bed. We have been forced for 5 years to listen to Sanders and he is done. LizBeth Mar 2020 #30
One good thing: Bernie's fantasy proposals will go under the microscope. nt oasis Mar 2020 #32
Here ya go, amigo... BidenBacker Mar 2020 #33
 

snowybirdie

(5,583 posts)
1. Will find something
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:54 PM
Mar 2020

else to do. Had enough of the same points over and over. Ready to move on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
2. Not me. I want to see what Biden says about the issues.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:55 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(28,361 posts)
10. You actively avoided every debate and any source that would have told you?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:22 PM
Mar 2020

That's curious. And unlikely.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
19. The truth is, it is hard for me to listen to Biden speaking, so I don't.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:51 PM
Mar 2020

I believe in progressive approaches to issues. I hope Bernie can help to move Biden to be more progressive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emulatorloo

(45,529 posts)
18. See here for a preview of where Biden stands on the issues
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:49 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
25. Did you happen to miss his website? n/t
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:54 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. Me too! n/t
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 08:59 PM
Mar 2020


-Laelth
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
4. I am too.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:02 PM
Mar 2020

I hope Biden confronts the lies Bernie's campaign has been saying about Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

a kennedy

(31,890 posts)
5. Sorry, not watching......
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:03 PM
Mar 2020

Just want one of them to come out not being hurt by the other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. It will be used as a platform to smear the Democratic party. This charade needs to end. NOW.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:06 PM
Mar 2020
I am looking forward to hearing Biden's responses to the issues. I know Bernie's position, but I don't know Biden's.
Yes, I'm sure. It's like the very first time any of this as EVER been discussed anywhere at all and we've all been living in a cave without electricity or WIFI. GMAFB!

You know perfectly well that it will be used as a platform to smear the Democratic party. This charade needs to end. NOW.

This serves no good purpose. It's just giving false hope to Bernie's most die-hard fans... and it will make their transition and acceptance of reality unnecessarily difficult.

Although the Democratic party will be his main target, it won't be the only target. It's the high-level staff members who will attack Biden with RW talking points and other smears that originate in Russia to the likes of Cenk Uygur, Michael Moore, Cornell West, David Sirota, Brianna Gray, Nina Turner, Matt Orfalea, Phillip Agnew. Afterward, Bernie will try to act all "shocked" that they're "going rogue" without his approval.

As Biden and his campaign and all other stalwart Democrats strive to show how the Democrats are BETTER than the GOP... Bernie is busy telling everyone that there's "no difference between Democrats and the GOP" and "both parties are the same". And that the Democrats "are the party of the one-percent" and that we're "corrupt".

I keep waiting for some Bernie fan somewhere to please explain to me how these LIES and smears against the party do anything other than create resentment and suspicion? How does it encourage voters to support Democrats? It's nothing but negativity. Negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
14. I have a different opinion than you.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:33 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(28,361 posts)
7. If you don't know Biden's positions on the issues by now...
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:13 PM
Mar 2020

I would guess you haven't tried very hard. There have been 10 debates and the information is readily available from a variety of sources, including his website.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
11. You are correct. I am a progressive.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:30 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(28,361 posts)
13. So, you intentionally remain ignorant of the policies of other candidates?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:33 PM
Mar 2020

Sure, you do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MFM008

(19,989 posts)
24. So am i
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 11:54 PM
Mar 2020

And i support Joe.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
36. Biden is a moderate and probably conservative on many issues
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:06 AM
Mar 2020

I will see what he has to say Sunday.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Sunsky

(1,866 posts)
34. Is that the excuse for being uninformed nowadays?
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:35 AM
Mar 2020

I'm not progressive but I was a Warren supporter and I've listened to Sanders' proposals many times. I gave every candidate the respect of listening to what they had to offer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
26. Thank you!
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 12:55 AM
Mar 2020

I am constantly asked by people on my Facebook wall what Biden's stand on the issues are. I give them a link to the Joe's Vision section of his website. Then, invariably, I get, "oh wow. I didn't know where he stood."

I try to be gracious and magnanimous but, really, how long have websites been a thing now? Talk about willful ignorance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thucythucy

(8,736 posts)
8. Really? At this point you don't know Biden's "responses to the issues"?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:16 PM
Mar 2020

You didn't watch any of the other debates?

You don't have access to the internet (obviously a rhetorical question) and can't go to his website where various plans are spelled out?

Here, let me help:

https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/

The debate serves no purpose at this point. All it does is to stoke Bernie's need to be seen, and the KGoP's need for ammunition against Democrats in November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
12. I did not watch the debates with all the fighting.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:31 PM
Mar 2020

Can't stand the fighting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thucythucy

(8,736 posts)
16. Well, I'm with you there.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:36 PM
Mar 2020

I thought the "moderating" was awful. Lots of attempted "gotcha" questions designed to encourage a food fight.

Imagine, the Lincoln/Douglas debates lasted for hours--hour long orations, half hour long answers to questions.

Almost impossible to imagine anything close to that today.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
17. I hope the format is reasonable.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:40 PM
Mar 2020

With just the two of them, they should get 5 minutes each. None of this 30 second crap.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

yaesu

(8,114 posts)
9. I am too. nt
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:20 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
15. Great.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:35 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
20. Not watching. Same ol' arm waving Bernie. I'll wait for the hightlights, if there are any. n/t
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:54 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
21. Enjoy it.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:57 PM
Mar 2020

Our nominee, Joe Biden, will have a strong performance for sure.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
22. Hopefully, he will develop a more progressive ideology.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 09:59 PM
Mar 2020

To bring this party together, Biden needs to respect and bring in progressive approaches.
There are millions of progressive voters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dansolo

(5,379 posts)
31. His ideology is fine
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 04:53 AM
Mar 2020

Personally, the ideology of demanding the government pay for everything without addressing how it will be implemented or how much it will cost is completely unappealing to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mysteryowl

(7,735 posts)
35. How about the military?
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:03 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Raine

(30,592 posts)
23. Me too
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 10:46 PM
Mar 2020

people have been wanting a debate with less candidates, well here it is!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

chillfactor

(7,687 posts)
27. I will find something else to do....
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:06 AM
Mar 2020

a fun movie, a good mystery book...tired of watching bernie throw his arms around and listening to him yelling.......will wait for DUer reponses instead for people braver then I am.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CTyankee

(64,826 posts)
28. Bernie, please don't yell at me.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:10 AM
Mar 2020

As a woman, I don't like it when a man shouts at me. And I don't care one bit if it is because he is so passionate for his cause. You can be passionate and not yell.

Thank you in advance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

33taw

(2,729 posts)
29. Bernie needs to pass the torch to AOC and step aside.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:56 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LizBeth

(10,674 posts)
30. Time to put Sanders to bed. We have been forced for 5 years to listen to Sanders and he is done.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 02:04 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(51,568 posts)
32. One good thing: Bernie's fantasy proposals will go under the microscope. nt
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:22 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
33. Here ya go, amigo...
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 06:31 AM
Mar 2020
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/joe-biden/

I just saved you 2 hours having to watch yet another stupid debate so now you can go play a good video game instead. Try "Portal 2" or "The Talos Principle" in 3D...they'll both blow your socks off.

They've both been around for quite a few years but I figured if you don't know Biden's positions by now you might also be a little behind in video gaming as well.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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