Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders telegraphed a possible drop-out after next debate:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/11/1926583/-Bernie-Is-Preparing-to-Drop-OutBernie gave a speech, detailing the topics on which he would hammer Biden in the next debate on Tuesday.
Why would he do that?
Maybe he wants to give Biden time to prepare answers. Prepare some GOOD answers that would sway Bernie-voters over to Biden.
GOOD answers that would allow Bernie after the debate to point his finger at Biden and tell his voters: "See? Even, if I loose the primary, not all is lost."
GOOD answers that would enable Bernie to bow out in grace, to hand his voters over to Biden without controversy and infighting, and to unite the Democratic Party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
empedocles
(15,751 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
centrarchus
(62 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandiFan1290
(6,408 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)Probably longer than me, but I tried to see when I joined, and can't bring it up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,166 posts)He looks awful. Maybe he realizes that after that heart attack, coming back on the campaign too soon may be part of his decision, along with his losses are too much.
I would admire him if he does drop out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,899 posts)lalalalala...Bernie has held on to his 15 minutes of fame for way too long. Time for him to retire from politics, sit on his porch with a drink and write more books.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,166 posts)Walk away!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mysteryowl
(7,752 posts)I understood what he was doing and what he said. I think he was speaking directly to progressives and his supporters as well.
I think the Biden supporters cannot understand it, so they did not hear it. That is okay, the people that needed to hear it, did and we will hear more of it at Sunday's debate. I have respect for Bernie. He deeply cares about voting OUT trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pampango
(24,692 posts)Bernie was talking to his passionate, progressive supporters. If these supporters feel that he drops out or is forced out prematurely (judgment is in the eye of the beholder), they are less likely to make the switch to Biden.
He does deeply care about voting Trump OUT. If he has to take online shots from Biden supporters for another few days in order to bring the vast majority of his supporters along, he will do that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mysteryowl
(7,752 posts)He is working to bring his supporters on board with Biden AND to move Biden into more progressive positions. I hope so anyway.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pampango
(24,692 posts)It will be interesting to see how he incorporates that into his campaign and, hopefully, his administration.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mysteryowl
(7,752 posts)We need ALL the progressives to join together with the moderates. But, the moderates, must respect the progressives and come on board with some of the progressive policies. A blending of our big tent.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)what he wanted and the supers reform was for him too later..and he still didn't support Hillary sufficiently in the primary...no more goodies from us for Sanders..as for progressives...we warned you to pick another candidate...that Sanders could not win a primary...you all should have supported Warren...so too bad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mysteryowl
(7,752 posts)If the moderates want the big tent, that means we blend.
I think Biden understands this, at least I hope so. I am looking forward to Sunday's debate to see.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)important, Sanders would be winning...go ahead...and threaten all you want...you will drive the party to the right if you continue. And the left will have less influence than before. It is your choice if you want to be in the tent...and if you don't, we will win without you ;the first example of this was in 18 when moderates won the house. We can't pass M4A through the house at this point. By not voting for Democrats in 16, the left/green (Stein voters yuck gag) caused the party to move right not left and the ironic thing is this makes their policy less likely to pass a Democratic Congress. If we win back the Senate, it will be in red/purple states...not left leaning states so again...we will get some good policy through but probably not the Green New Deal or MFA.
As for the Debate, I have no worries about it. The primary is over and a debate won't change that. Biden will be fine. I might watch it because I like to hear Biden...but honestly, I turn the sound off when Sanders speaks...so done with him and the primary. He has less than half the support he had in 16...really sad in a way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,166 posts)What has Bernie accomplished in 30 years?
Vermont has 1 Health insurance company, very few Doctors, an aging population. The young ar leaving for jobs!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)I dream someday of never hearing the name Sanders again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)...both he and his surrogates:
1) He's only losing because of the corrupt DNC and voter suppression. They're stealing the election from him and he's going to fight back.
2) Biden's only support comes from old people. It's not a winning combination. Bernie has the support of the youth and middle aged voters, which is a winning coalition.
Bernie has no intentions of dropping out. Even Tuesday, when he loses big, he'll still carry on and still attack.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)He's not leaving until the last camera goes dark and he's running on conspiracy fumes. I see no benefit to giving him a platform he no longer merits.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,830 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,268 posts)this bullshit about testing Biden's answers is theatrics and grandstanding.
Biden's answers have already been tested - by the voters who voted for him over Bernie.
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
peggysue2
(11,479 posts)I'll believe all this 'telegraphed' nonsense when I see it. Frankly I find the idea of Bernie Sanders 'testing' Joe Biden ridiculous and offensive. Who appointed the Senator from Vermont the Judge on High?
Certainly not Democratic voters!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,896 posts)Which is why it's weird people are so afraid of Sanders staying in the race to give every voter a voice.
It doesn't hurt Biden, but it helps the party for Sanders to stay.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,896 posts)I think Biden is a stronger candidate than that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)Sanders is doing Trump's work for him. Yes, Biden is stronger. That's why he's beating Sanders at the ballot box. But we need to win in November and Sanders is harming our chances with his negative ads. He did to same to Hillary and look what happened last time in Michigan.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,896 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,896 posts)Sometimes elections are blowouts. We have them anyway. It's a thing. You want to alienate people? Deny them elections. You want people to accuse you of being unfair? Deny them elections.
The process should happen. It does not need to be short-circuited. Sanders supporters do not need to be antagonized, they need to be respected and befriended. To dismiss them outright is self-defeating. To attack them is self-defeating.
This is a perfect opportunity for Biden. I trust he has more political savvy than most of DU when it comes to unifying a party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)win mathematically, the primary is over...and the loser should concede...all this emotion over a very simple act of picking someone to run in the general..don't get it. And in this case, with Sanders spewing anti-Joe shit and his surrogates chiming in, we risk the general to allow this to continue. If Sanders cares about beating Trump and the progressive cause he will get out because if Trump wins,the election, the Progressive movement is dead. The courts are gone and we are screwed six ways to Sunday. After Tuesday only 38% delegates will be left...Sanders is losing all the Tuesday races by double digits. There is no way for him to win...he needs to go.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,896 posts)It's bad to tell people their vote doesn't count and expect them to thin,k it will count later.
Let the process work as it was designed to work.
This isn't rocket science.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SidDithers
(44,268 posts)because we saw how it hurt Hillary in 2016.
It doesn't help the party for Sanders to demonize democrats for the next 5 months. How many more Fox town halls will he have? How much more ammunition will he give to Trump? Why should Biden be forced to spend additional campaign dollars on a campaign that he isn't going to lose, when those funds could instead be directed toward the General?
It serves no purpose for Bernie to stay in a race that he can't win.
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gore1FL
(21,896 posts)If he can't withstand a simple contest with Sanders, he's pretty weak. The purpose it serves for him to stay in the race is for people to have a chance to vote. Voting makes things fair. When things are fair, the party can more easily unify.
Also, please provide credible links required on your claim that it hurt Hillary or I will assume you are scapegoating.
It's like everyone forgot how Democracy worked.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)It's Sanders who's showing weakness by running negative TV ads. He needs to withdraw NOW and if he doesn't party leaders need to step in and make it happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,896 posts)He'll get free time to do it during debates. That will help unify the party as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)of magical debate(with fairy dust for sure and maybe a unicorn) and then the primary will change. Voter will support Sanders and the revolution...why he will win by double digits for the rest of the primary which is what he needs in order to have any chance. It is a lovely fantasy, but it won't happen. Voters have made up their minds...and choose Joe. Debates rarely change anything and Biden will be the nominee. Thus letting Sanders attack Biden by continuing this charade is foolish and only helps Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gore1FL
(21,896 posts)Ity's true Biden isn;t my first choice, but he will be the nominee. Why are you afraid of people's voices being heard?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,822 posts)Ill hold my breath.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wyldwolf
(43,891 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)Joe Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,467 posts)in Pennsylvania. Looks to me like Sanders is going scorched earth to the end.
https://billypenn.com/2020/03/13/bernie-sanders-is-opening-five-campaign-offices-in-joe-bidens-native-pa/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,555 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)the fuck out Sanders...you only help Trump at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(52,770 posts)He is squandering any credibility he might have had.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,555 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I don't think Bernie should drop out. Let everyone vote
Let every state vote. I would be ok with him stopping the attacks though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Callado119
(171 posts)...BS is a narcissist and will likely stay in all the way to the convention while demanding super delegates get to vote on the first ballot so they can hand him the nomination...yes, it would be outrageous hypocrisy but he has no shame..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
awesomerwb1
(4,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)won't allow him to admit getting waxed and trounced once again. Weighed, measured and found wanting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(10,285 posts)... good for both. The format favors ideas. Biden will get to show he's not senile. I do think the controversy will continue however... it will be that the selection of Biden is "rigged" and the naming of Bernie as nominee is being stolen from him. That's the telegraphing I get...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden