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Bernie Sanders @BernieSanders We've been told over and over that Medicare for All is "too radical." (Original Post) BeckyDem Mar 2020 OP
You've been told the truth. beastie boy Mar 2020 #1
with the ebola crisis Obama had a plan in place for the USA & looks like Repubs Sunlei Mar 2020 #4
M4 over age 50 was a part of the ACA law before that part had to be removed so ACA passed Sunlei Mar 2020 #2
Possibly. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #3
yes, and once Obama starts helping him more-I think Joe will start to mention this. Sunlei Mar 2020 #5
+1 BeckyDem Mar 2020 #6
Switzerland rejects single-payer in landslide, keeps its version of Obamacare Gothmog Mar 2020 #7
 

beastie boy

(11,148 posts)
1. You've been told the truth.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:33 AM
Mar 2020

"We've been told over and over that Medicare for All is "too radical."

I think it's radical to have a health care system that leaves 87 million people uninsured or underinsured.

I think it's radical that people can't afford to see a doctor during a pandemic."

I don't see how one extreme adds validity to the other extreme. There is a vast area of moderation between the two radical excesses. To act as if it doesn't exist is pure demagoguery.

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. with the ebola crisis Obama had a plan in place for the USA & looks like Repubs
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:46 AM
Mar 2020

looks like repubs fucking around in washingtondc just found it and started to use part of those plans.

God lets evict all republicans, America would be better off without any of them. vacant chairs would be better.

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
2. M4 over age 50 was a part of the ACA law before that part had to be removed so ACA passed
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:42 AM
Mar 2020

It's very possible to quickly improve the ACA law by re-adding medicare insurance for some age groups the insurance corporation already finds riskier to cover- like ages 50 to 65 who do have to pay crazy high premiums and crazy high rx prices.


That's a step away from medicare for all.

I think once this primary is settled and if Bidens our man he also will adjust his campaign to reflect at least this progress for ACA healthcare.

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
5. yes, and once Obama starts helping him more-I think Joe will start to mention this.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:48 AM
Mar 2020
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Gothmog

(154,590 posts)
7. Switzerland rejects single-payer in landslide, keeps its version of Obamacare
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:37 PM
Mar 2020



Swiss voters resoundingly rejected a proposal to move the country to a single-payer system on Sunday. Instead, the country will keep its private health insurance system, which looks a whole lot like Obamacare.

Two-thirds of Swiss voters opposed creating a state-run health plan in the national referendum. The issue was put to a vote after Swiss campaigners gathered more than 100,000 signatures, the threshold for getting a national vote; some initial polls in 2013 had shown strong support for a state-run system.

For a country with a relatively small population (8 million), Switzerland comes up a shocking amount in debates over American health care. That's probably because the Swiss health care system looks pretty similar to the one Obamacare sets up.

Since 1996, Switzerland has required all residents purchase coverage through an individual mandate. "If you move to Switzerland, you have three months to buy coverage and it's retroactive to your arrival," Aaron Carroll explains in his excellent video primer on the Swiss health care system.

Swiss residents buy coverage from private health insurance plans, who compete for their business. The average monthly premium for adults, in American dollars, was $329 in 2013. There are no pre-existing conditions in Switzerland; insurers are only allowed to vary premiums based on age, charging different rates for children under 18, young adults between 19 and 25, and adults over 25.
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