He's forecast to win two or three of the remaining contests, total. In many of the others, he's down by more than 20 points, including all of the big-delegate states left like PA and FL. He's down nearly 20 points in the national polls.

538 says he'd need a 20-point surge across the board immediately just to remain competitive and it would still be almost impossible to make up the difference.

The race is over.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

True Blue American

(18,166 posts)

51. Down in Ohio,too.

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #28)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:16 AM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

dware

(14,322 posts)

29. Maybe because he doesn't stand a chance in hell of winning the nomination?

Reply to Peregrine Took (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 02:08 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Jarqui

(10,490 posts)

37. Maybe this might have something to do with it

Reply to Peregrine Took (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:06 PM

Mar 2020

Recent polls
March 17 primaries All States Bernie lost to Hillary
AZ Biden +28
AZ Biden +17
IL Biden +21
IL Biden +38
FL Biden +38
FL Biden +41
FL Biden +44
FL Biden +55
OH Biden +22

March 24 primaries State Bernie lost to Hillary
GA Biden +18.5 (two polls)

At this point, Bernie's going to be down about 2.5 million votes and 300-400 delegates

After March 24 primaries (latest polls)
PA Biden +28 State Bernie lost to Hillary
DE Biden +38 State Bernie lost to Hillary
WI Biden +16 State Bernie won over Hillary
KS Biden +24 State Bernie won over Hillary
MD Biden heavily favored because of large black vote, Bernie lost MD in 2016
LA Biden heavily favored because of large black vote, Bernie lost LA in 2016

Beyond this, there are not large (over 100 delegates) states outstanding that Bernie won in 2016. His biggest win for the remaining states was 44-39 in Indiana (5 delegates net) or by delegates won Alaska 13-3 (+10 delegates). There's not enough realistic real estate left for Bernie to come back.

National Biden +19 (poll of polls)

I'll let Nate take it from here:

Link to tweet

This is past the point of stick a fork in him. It's time to remove the fork and move on.

Bernie wants to earn negotiation points with Biden. Here's the negotiation:
"It's Biden or Trump. Take your pick."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

empedocles

(15,751 posts)

13. Given the primaries, etc., does not appear to be 'thinking'

Reply to empedocles (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:33 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Thekaspervote

(34,666 posts)

2. +1000

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:18 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(305,440 posts)

3. If

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:19 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Pachamama

(17,014 posts)

4. +100000

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:19 PM

Mar 2020

But he clearly isn’t a hero, is he?

He has no path to victory and yet he keeps the fantasy revolution alive....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)

5. Biden supporters would find other reasons to hate him. nt

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:22 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

dware

(14,322 posts)

20. AFAIK, nobody here has expressed hate toward Sen. Sanders,

Reply to el_bryanto (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:41 PM

Mar 2020

there is disagreement on whether he is electable, but no hate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Aaron Pereira

(383 posts)

45. There is plenty of deep seated hostility to Sanders and a premature exit won't change it.

Reply to el_bryanto (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

Mar 2020

The purpose of a primary is an airing of issues, a chance for rank and file voters to have their say in all states and to test the endurance of fitness of our candidates. We have a long way to go.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Tumbulu

(6,448 posts)

56. No, my visceral disgust is based upon

Reply to el_bryanto (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:40 AM

Mar 2020

memories of his kind of guy from the ‘60-‘70’s whose attitude towards women was that we were useful for clerical help and free sex because our lives were so much easier than theirs. They were the purists fighting “the man” and we had life so so easy. We owed it to them.

Evidence is his personal life from those days.

I hate him all right. For stealing power from his landlord with dangerous extension chords, for leaving the mother of his kid stuck navigating the welfare system. For not working to support them.

But I was a Warren supporter until she dropped out. At least she had plans. And she worked for a living before going into politics unlike creep bernie. Oh yes, I loath him! And if you think that once those stories are blasted around in ads the toxic effects of his lifelong selfishness won’t turn the regular public off, you are naive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Freddie

(9,696 posts)

57. I knew guys like that in the 70s

Reply to Tumbulu (Reply #56)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:56 AM

Mar 2020

Dated one for a while. The hippie ethos of “everybody free and equal” didn’t extend to us cooks and bed warmers. That was eons ago and I’ve been with my husband (who is NOT like that) for 40 years but thinking about it still pisses me off. Never thought about it til now, but that’s why I have a personal dislike of BS. And hearing that he was probably a disappearing deadbeat dad to his son just confirms it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

blm

(113,822 posts)

6. Maybe he will do it at the end of the debate.

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:22 PM

Mar 2020

Biden should be open and receptive enough to adopting some measures right there. Biden and Sanders were always collegial so, it should be considered a possibility.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

8. It would be the patriotic thing to do.

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:27 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ProfessorPlum

(11,365 posts)

9. Sanders is already a national hero

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:29 PM

Mar 2020

no one has done more to mainstream the idea of single payer healthcare, and that will save millions of lives, eventually.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

jalan48

(14,406 posts)

10. +1

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:30 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

RandySF

(70,652 posts)

12. If he spends the next few months attacking Biden

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:33 PM

Mar 2020

He may not even get re-elected in Vermont.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ProfessorPlum

(11,365 posts)

14. I'll let him know about your deep concern

Reply to RandySF (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:35 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Response to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Butterflylady This message was self-deleted by its author.

dware

(14,322 posts)

21. Sen. Sanders is NOT a national hero,

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:42 PM

Mar 2020

he's widely recognized as a man with integrity, but he's no hero.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ProfessorPlum

(11,365 posts)

22. that's like your opinion man

Reply to dware (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:47 PM

Mar 2020

he is a hero to millions of Americans, and will be remembered for fighting for working people all the while the entire elite establishment fought against and ridiculed him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

dware

(14,322 posts)

24. No, that's like the truth man.

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:52 PM

Mar 2020

Uh oh, there's that word, "establishment".
I guess that ends the conversation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

dware

(14,322 posts)

25. I've done more for this country in my 74 years,

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:53 PM

Mar 2020

than Sen. Sanders has done for this country his whole life.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ProfessorPlum

(11,365 posts)

33. have a cookie

Reply to dware (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 02:14 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

dware

(14,322 posts)

34. Back atcha.

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #33)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 02:19 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

True Blue American

(18,166 posts)

55. If Sanders is a hero

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #22)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:25 AM

Mar 2020

Why isn’t he winning?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,903 posts)

26. Really? The single-payer healthcare concept has been floating around

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:56 PM

Mar 2020

since the Truman administration. And Warren did at least as much to promote it as Bernie did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ProfessorPlum

(11,365 posts)

31. it is an old concept

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #26)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 02:11 PM

Mar 2020

and Sanders has been pushing it in two consecutive big national races. Warren's support is also welcome.

Biden should adopt it as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)

30. John Conyers.

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 02:09 PM

Mar 2020

Conyers introduced Medicare for All in 2003 and introduced it every year for the next 15.

Sanders 2017 bill was a parallel of that bill. 14 years later.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ProfessorPlum

(11,365 posts)

32. Conyers never ran for President on that platform

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #30)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 02:13 PM

Mar 2020

Presidential runs have the power to really change national dialog. And Conyers and _everyone_ fighting for single payer deserve credit. But again, no one has done more to bring the idea into the national dialog, especially in the last decade, than Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

35. Actually, Warren has done more to change the conversation, in a much shorter time.

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 03:19 PM

Mar 2020

Warren's real power lies in her outsized influence, not just for a freshman senator, but for virtually any elected official in Washington. Her pen may not have touched many pieces of legislation that made their way to Obama's desk since her election in 2012, but her fingerprints are all over them.
........................................................
Warren's restraint may have lost her the battle, but has earned her a tremendous amount of respect from her colleagues. Warren allies say that, coupled with her fundraising for candidates across the Democratic party spectrum, is what has helped to keep her relevant within the conference—though thousands of avid supporters willing to put their votes and their dollars behind her ideology, and against those who oppose her, don't hurt either.

That's helped Warren to continue to hold outsized sway over the conversation among Democratic policymakers in Washington, particularly for a freshman. "Democrats in Congress were talking about cutting Social Security in 2012, and Warren got 42 of 44 Democrats to vote yes on expanding Social Security benefits instead," Adam Green, cofounder of the Progressive Campaign Change Committee said in a statement.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/is-elizabeth-warren-an-effective-senator/449349/

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

The CFPB accomplished more that all the talking Sanders has done in 30+ years as a career politician on Capitol Hill. She lapped him even before she got elected to the Senate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Happy Hoosier

(8,405 posts)

36. If he insists on fighting out this primary in the face of a pandemic....

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 03:24 PM

Mar 2020

He will seriously damage his reputation. People will feel compelled to go to the polls, almost certainly accelerating the spread of the virus in the primary states. And for WHAT? His fucking ego.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,135 posts)

38. .....

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:14 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

oasis

(51,705 posts)

49. Johnie's Coffee Shop, Wilshire&Fairfax L.A. is a shrine to Bernie

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:49 AM

Mar 2020

other than that...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

True Blue American

(18,166 posts)

52. Obama did that and Biden.

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:23 AM

Mar 2020

And would have succeeded, except for 3 lousy Senators, Lieberman, Baucus and Grassley.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LizBeth

(10,823 posts)

15. I would not be so scornful of Sanders, anyway. Not a hero. Just a person with integrity.

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 01:36 PM

Mar 2020

Many of us are already there. Not something to give a pat on the back about. It should be a given, expected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Squinch

(52,770 posts)

27. He COULD do that, and go back to the Senate as an elder statesman. Or he can be

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 02:05 PM

Mar 2020

demolished in all the upcoming primaries and annoy everyone who wants to get on with the business of defeating Filthy Donnie. If he does this, he will lose whatever relevance he has left.

The first choice would be the smart one.

Guess which one he will pick?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

polichick

(37,625 posts)

39. The big rush makes it seem as if Biden supporters don't trust him...

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:40 PM

Mar 2020

not to fuck up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Polybius

(17,868 posts)

41. No, he must wait until at least Monday

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:58 PM

Mar 2020

I absolutely need to see this debate. The country needs it. We have no sports.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

dansolo

(5,385 posts)

42. Why the need?

Reply to Polybius (Reply #41)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:32 AM

Mar 2020

What are you expecting to occur in the debate that will so dramatically change the detection the primaries are going?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Polybius

(17,868 posts)

43. Not expecting any change, just good entertainment

Reply to dansolo (Reply #42)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:45 PM

Mar 2020

I have no sports to watch. This is gonna be damn good. I enjoy all debates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

showblue22

(1,026 posts)

44. It's going to be a great debate.

Reply to Polybius (Reply #43)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:03 AM

Mar 2020

This is going to be Bernie's last debate perhaps in his life. Bernie supporters want Bernie to go hard negative on Biden. Biden is who he is a statesman, a good decent man. People all over the world love Joe. If Bernie does it, he will be energizing Biden's base and if he does't, he will disappoint his. I'm excited to watch it for sure.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)

46. I'd rather watch March Madness than yet another debate

Reply to Polybius (Reply #43)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:18 AM

Mar 2020

And now my beloved baseball has been suspended.

This virus is REALLY starting to get on my nerves.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Polybius

(17,868 posts)

47. Same here

Reply to BidenBacker (Reply #46)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:50 AM

Mar 2020

Give me some sport to watch, anything. Just not UFC, not really into fighting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)

48. Me either

Reply to Polybius (Reply #47)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:09 AM

Mar 2020

My elderly father in FL relied heavily on sports to ease his loneliness since his second wife just passed away last year. Now that's all gone.

He has airline reservations to visit my brother and I out here in AZ next month and now that is in serious jeopardy. I had some real nice seats close to the field for a D-backs game against the AL champs Astros I was really looking forward to taking him to...those may end up getting refunded now. Seems like a lot of fuss over just a "hoax".

None of this may have been necessary if we had a federal government that actually knew WTF it was doing or a POTUS who gave a shit about anybody but himself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden