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TomCADem

(17,760 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:42 PM Mar 2020

NPR - How Russia Is Trying To Boost Bernie Sanders' Campaign

It must be a relief to Russia that Bernie has indicated that once again he will campaign to the convention regardless of the math to promote his issues. Perhaps one of the issues is to give Russia a platform for disrupting the 2020 elections.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/05/812186614/how-russia-is-trying-to-boost-bernie-sanders-campaign

It's 2016 all over again — at least from Russia's perspective.

Russia's state-sponsored messaging about Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign was more neutral in the fall.

But over the past six weeks, this coverage has shifted to mirror pro-Sanders talking points first used in the last presidential campaign, said Clint Watts of the Foreign Policy Research Institute, who has been monitoring Russian interference continuously.

"What's really come on strong just in the last 30 to 45 days are very similar narratives that we saw in 2016 about Sanders," Watts told NPR.
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TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
1. "to promote his issues"
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:44 PM
Mar 2020

Does he really think that after the last five years, there's anyone alive who doesn't know his issues by now?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
7. Many said he lost last time because people didn't know him. He's losing this time because people DO!
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:57 PM
Mar 2020
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TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
10. "Name recognition" was a common theme around here for months this cycle.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:36 PM
Mar 2020

His own supporters seem to have forgotten that he'd been running for four years by then and was part of one of the most high-profile primary cycles in memory. But they'll just like him more when they get to know him!!!

It's always something.

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Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
2. I'm starting wonder the isn't in cahoots with them...
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:44 PM
Mar 2020

Just saying.

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Thekaspervote

(34,666 posts)
3. Sanders has to know this! It's so so wrong
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:44 PM
Mar 2020
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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. Well, from the BS point of view, BS does need all the help he can get, from wherever.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:46 PM
Mar 2020

BS, not 'unaware' of all the putin/trump resources.

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DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
5. Bern: what say you???
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:50 PM
Mar 2020

I am feeling Berned by the Bern if this is indeed true.

"Russia, if you're listening, it WILL NOT WORK this time.
In Russian, "Россия, если ты слушаешь, на этот раз она НЕ РАБОТАЕТ!"

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
6. If Clint Watts says it's so
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 07:55 PM
Mar 2020

you can take that to the bank.

Hopefully the Saudis oil war with Russia will bankrupt Putin and he'll have to shut that whole operation down. Or at least pay his botniks outta his own multibillion dollar fortune that he stole from his country and was laundered by Trump.

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
9. The other aspect of that story is,
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:25 PM
Mar 2020

why is it so easy to play certain supporters of one candidate? Who is so stupid to fall for paid trolls that even have to communicate in their second language?
Emotions take over while they are throwing a tantrum and some seriously not only believe that there wouldn't be a difference between Biden and Trump, these so-called progressives even hate Biden more. They lack the intelligence to comprehend that this gets them farther away from what they pretend to fight for. But that is what happens when their candidate's main target is the Democratic party and who engages in similarly dishonest and stupid binary thinking.

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Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
11. Russia's not going to
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:47 PM
Mar 2020

get Trump re-elected, no matter how hard they try. People are on to their bullshit.

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Vivienne235729

(3,734 posts)
13. I think that Bernie's ideas are great. I just don't think he is the right person
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:03 PM
Mar 2020

To carry this torch. He won't be successful in the manner in which he has chosen to pursue it. Imho.

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Cha

(305,440 posts)
14. Best of Luck to Joe Biden, Our Country and
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:11 PM
Mar 2020

Our Planet!

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aikoaiko

(34,202 posts)
15. I don't see RT having much of an influence on voters.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:07 AM
Mar 2020
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TomCADem

(17,760 posts)
17. Russian election meddling is back -- via Ghana and Nigeria -- and in your feeds
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:44 AM
Mar 2020

You could just pay a troll farm to spread memes attacking the Democratic party from the "left" arguing that the Democratic party has let African Americans down and that they should just sit out the election. It is not going to be as direct as in 2016 with folks spamming Feel the Bern posts. Instead, if you can suppress the vote among key demographics, you can help certain candidates.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/world/russia-ghana-troll-farms-2020-ward/index.html

Accra, Ghana (CNN)The Russian trolls are back -- and once again trying to poison the political atmosphere in the United States ahead of this year's elections. But this time they are better disguised and more targeted, harder to identify and track. And they have found an unlikely home, far from Russia itself.

In 2016, much of the trolling aimed at the US election operated from an office block in St. Petersburg, Russia. A months-long CNN investigation has discovered that, in this election cycle, at least part of the campaign has been outsourced -- to trolls in the west African nations of Ghana and Nigeria.

They have focused almost exclusively on racial issues in the US, promoting black empowerment and often displaying anger towards white Americans. The goal, according to experts who follow Russian disinformation campaigns, is to inflame divisions among Americans and provoke social unrest.

* * *
Russia's continuing interest in Africa as a platform for expanding its influence has taken on a new complexion with the trolling enterprise in Ghana -- demonstrating an adaptability and persistence that will cause deep concern among US intelligence agencies and the technology companies.


How much do you want to bet that as we get close to the election we will see an increase in social media targeted at African Americans, perhaps quoting Cornell West, saying that the Democratic Party has failed them? This is why Bernie is being boosted by the Russians. Because he and the collection of surrogates he has gathered have long histories of attacking the Democratic party.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
18. Sure looks like the Russkies
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:25 PM
Mar 2020

are mighty afraid of Biden & Bloomberg. So it seems that Trump ain't the only one.

Woulda liked to have seen a summary of Tulsi Gabbard's numbers but she wasn't on your list.

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zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
16. When Bernie finally drops out, he and Jane can go on that 2nd honeymoon to Russia. n/t
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:22 AM
Mar 2020
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