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question everything

(48,833 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:28 PM Mar 2020

Millennials want change, so why aren't they voting?

Young people could change this country. They have the numbers. In 2016, Americans aged 18 to 35 were roughly 31% of the U.S. electorate — same as the powerful Baby Boom generation. Only, the younger voters’ percentage is on the rise while the boomers’ is declining because of mortality. By now, millennials (ages 23 to 38) could be the largest cohort in American politics.

They are, by a long shot, the most liberal and racially diverse of the age groups eligible to vote. By substantial margins, they’re more likely to favor universal healthcare, climate action, diplomacy over military might, abortion rights, and to say that immigrants strengthen America, according to the Pew Research Center. But they’re not changing the country. Not enough. That’s largely because, for all their potential power, they aren’t voting — at least in substantial numbers.

The dismaying fact is that on Super Tuesday, despite the heavy stakes affecting their future, younger voters didn’t show up. In Virginia, for example, where overall voting surged 62% over four years ago, the share of young voters declined to 13%, three points less than in 2016. The young cohort’s standard-bearer, Sen. Bernie Sanders, won 55% of those young voters. But former Vice President Joe Biden took the state, commandingly. It was the same in North Carolina. Young voters were 14% of the electorate on Super Tuesday, compared to 16% four years ago. In Tennessee, 11% compared to 15%.

(snip)

One young woman told National Public Radio that she works several jobs and goes to school but in Washington, voting is almost all by mail. She suggested making Election Day a holiday. Another said there should be “an incentive to come to the polls to vote.” She suggested doughnuts.

What kind of breakdown in civics education produces young adults who think that voting is some kind of favor they do for someone else, like participating in a product survey, and that they should get a little something in return?

FROM AN EDITORIAL IN THE PALM BEACH POST

http://www.startribune.com/millennials-want-change-so-why-aren-t-they-voting/568752802/



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Millennials want change, so why aren't they voting? (Original Post) question everything Mar 2020 OP
It's too much like work. Even AOC recognized that in her comments after her Fox appearance. George II Mar 2020 #1
Millennials are Sanders' alleged base. What a huge miscalculation... brush Mar 2020 #56
He really believes he's the first and only one with an economic equality message and the reason betsuni Mar 2020 #61
Knowing, as we've seen in this thread, that the young do not rush to vote, his followers should question everything Mar 2020 #72
WTF Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #2
Young people never vote. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #3
One would think, though, that these days with "Social media" they would know better question everything Mar 2020 #8
They should but they don't. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #14
Probably leave ideologies behind. question everything Mar 2020 #55
As soon Rebl2 Mar 2020 #44
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #4
Quit bashing young people. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #13
No. They just don't have experience to draw from when making their decisions. Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #17
ok, maybe we can just blame their parents AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #18
Don't you have kids? If you do, you would know that sometimes we teach our kids one thing... Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #21
I sure AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #24
Of course. Our kids are TAUGHT. There are a whole lotta kids out there that are not, though Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #26
By the time your kid can vote Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #29
My kids went with dad and I for every vote. We are vocal in our house with politics and LizBeth Mar 2020 #41
I would bet everyone here with kids (or not) votes. n/t whathehell Mar 2020 #27
For sure. In fact, I talk to my daughter about all things politics. And she sees me voting. Vivienne235729 Mar 2020 #34
I think that this is what happened in 1968 question everything Mar 2020 #54
oh what a load of NONSENSE Skittles Mar 2020 #30
LOL! Thank you. Chellee Mar 2020 #42
+infinity ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #43
Thank you, Skittles! Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #47
+100000000000 Celerity Mar 2020 #49
They've been accustomed to receiving Participation Trophies sop Mar 2020 #5
Once again, Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #15
but conservative youth votes AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #23
Not really. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #25
Thanks for standing up for younger people. PETRUS Mar 2020 #38
They're the Eloi defacto7 Mar 2020 #6
They love rallies.......so why don't they get in to the booth AND VOTE.?? a kennedy Mar 2020 #7
I guess we need to make voting more "exciting" for them whathehell Mar 2020 #28
Millennials volunteer at a higher rate than other generations; I think many of them feel that WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2020 #9
I am young. Work. And have never missed an election. Drunken Irishman Mar 2020 #10
It's all like, hard 'n stuff. Codeine Mar 2020 #11
No kidding JackSabbath Mar 2020 #46
Lotta people being assholes on this thread. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2020 #12
Yep jberryhill Mar 2020 #53
Bashing Will Not Bring them to Biden's Side! McKim Mar 2020 #16
What is said on posts should not matter.. kevink077 Mar 2020 #39
What's the "incentive"?! Beartracks Mar 2020 #19
They're too busy having fun. showblue22 Mar 2020 #20
Rallies are deceptive relayerbob Mar 2020 #22
Voting requires effort customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #31
It has nothing to do with Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #40
As a person born basically on the cusp of the Millennial/Gen Z divide Celerity Mar 2020 #57
It has sadly always been thus Politicub Mar 2020 #32
alas, they are behaving like all younger generations have Skittles Mar 2020 #33
Plenty of older cosplay-radicals informing them that it doesn't matter. Grokenstein Mar 2020 #35
Get them a secure phone app they will be all over it. Thomas Hurt Mar 2020 #36
Doughnuts? FFS. SMC22307 Mar 2020 #37
From my view, it's a vicious cycle Dopers_Greed Mar 2020 #45
Vietnam got that generation active. Seeing your friends go off to die wakes you up. Pobeka Mar 2020 #48
And yet many stayed home in 1968 question everything Mar 2020 #58
And how the age got lowered to 18, because treestar Mar 2020 #70
do keep in mind DonCoquixote Mar 2020 #50
A lot of them are college students and they cant rainy Mar 2020 #51
Civics classes were dropped before this cohort reached high school. polichick Mar 2020 #52
The youth love to come out and party at rallies, but they don't like to go into voting booths alone. zackymilly Mar 2020 #59
There's a difference between a "movement" and a "following" Yavin4 Mar 2020 #60
What are the actual age cohorts being specifically discussed here in the article? Celerity Mar 2020 #62
On election day 1996, the local paper searched for the "man in the street" opinions question everything Mar 2020 #73
Okay, but what does that have to do with my questions, which were of an empirical nature, not Celerity Mar 2020 #74
She should have been alive in the 1870s TheFarseer Mar 2020 #63
I don't know, but demographics will still be changing mvd Mar 2020 #64
sometimes.... quickesst Mar 2020 #65
They want change, but they want us to do it for them world wide wally Mar 2020 #66
Because it takes a lot of effort to come up with MyNameGoesHere Mar 2020 #67
They keep looking for the Vote button on Sander's twitter account but can't find it. Tercules Mar 2020 #68
I don't understand it treestar Mar 2020 #69
Me too. betsuni Mar 2020 #71
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. It's too much like work. Even AOC recognized that in her comments after her Fox appearance.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:30 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(57,601 posts)
56. Millennials are Sanders' alleged base. What a huge miscalculation...
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:34 PM
Mar 2020

along with thinking enough voters would vote for a socialist. Poor judgment for sure.

It's nothing new that young voters don't vote heavily. Why doesn't Sanders know that?

Good thing we picked Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(27,258 posts)
61. He really believes he's the first and only one with an economic equality message and the reason
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:59 PM
Mar 2020

more people, especially young people, don't vote is because the two parties are the same except for "identity politics," that when there's finally a true progressive fighting for the working class, they'll flock to the polls. Where he got this bizarre notion, who knows, but it's permanently stuck in his head. Huge miscalculation as usual. The only possible conclusion for this not happening is rigging.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

question everything

(48,833 posts)
72. Knowing, as we've seen in this thread, that the young do not rush to vote, his followers should
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:03 PM
Mar 2020

have put extra efforts to find and to convince them.

Except, both Sanders and Warren have been so sure about their message that any attempts to broaden it has not occurred to them or they just dismisses it.

If there is one thing we learned from 2016 is not to take anything for granted. Never mind the polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Just_Vote_Dem

(3,135 posts)
2. WTF
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:31 PM
Mar 2020
Another said there should be “an incentive to come to the polls to vote.” She suggested doughnuts.



If I were to vote in a presidential
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Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
3. Young people never vote.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:31 PM
Mar 2020

It’s certainly nothing new. The boomer youth failed to turn out for McGovern in ‘72, leading to Nixon’s re-election. As millennials and generation Z get older, they’ll start voting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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question everything

(48,833 posts)
8. One would think, though, that these days with "Social media" they would know better
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:35 PM
Mar 2020

What is at stake, the issues that should affect them personally.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
14. They should but they don't.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:43 PM
Mar 2020

They will though and when they do, conservatives will have trouble ever coming to power again. Studies show that older millennials have NOT become more conservative as they approach their forties. Bad news for Republicans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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question everything

(48,833 posts)
55. Probably leave ideologies behind.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

Will realize that to pursue them one needs, first, to gain power and you don’t do this by bloody revolutions

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Rebl2

(14,715 posts)
44. As soon
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:44 PM
Mar 2020

as I could vote back in the late 70’s I voted and have voted in every Presidential election (as well as others) ever since. I just think many young people don’t understand the consequences of not voting. Face it there a lot of older adults don’t bother either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to question everything (Original post)

 

Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
13. Quit bashing young people.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:41 PM
Mar 2020

Yes, they don’t vote and NEVER have. It’s not a new phenomenon at all. It’s certainly not related to them wanting free college or a lack of hunger.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Vivienne235729

(3,734 posts)
17. No. They just don't have experience to draw from when making their decisions.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:47 PM
Mar 2020

They act like....young people. A little irresponsible at times. And eventually, their brains will catch up bc life will happen. We just need to help them along.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,270 posts)
18. ok, maybe we can just blame their parents
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:48 PM
Mar 2020

who didn’t teach them to vote like your life depends on it

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Vivienne235729

(3,734 posts)
21. Don't you have kids? If you do, you would know that sometimes we teach our kids one thing...
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:56 PM
Mar 2020

And they go do another. You can't always blame the parents. Don't get me wrong. Sometimes you can blame the parents. bc I have seen some messed up kids who came from messed up parents. I may have soft spot for kids bc I see so many that have been short changed by their parents. It's heartbreaking. They weren't given tools to survive much less taught the importance of something like voting. It takes a village. And I try to educate as much as I can.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,270 posts)
24. I sure
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:58 PM
Mar 2020

If I learn my kid didn’t vote, there will be a very serious discussion and loss of certain privileges. Not of voting age yet but one day. Young people who do not vote are irresponsible. Simple as that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Vivienne235729

(3,734 posts)
26. Of course. Our kids are TAUGHT. There are a whole lotta kids out there that are not, though
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:00 PM
Mar 2020

They are left to practically die on their own. We should be reaching out and educating them. Not pointing fingers is all I am saying.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
29. By the time your kid can vote
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:06 PM
Mar 2020

What privileges can you possibly revoke?

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LizBeth

(10,823 posts)
41. My kids went with dad and I for every vote. We are vocal in our house with politics and
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020

current events. They are well informed. I am assuming they vote but not something I ask. That is their decision. I did all the work and example. They have gotten mail in, but I do not know that they got around to mailing it out. I leave them be. Not mine to sit down grown "kids" and have that conversation. They have been a lifetime having these conversations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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whathehell

(29,803 posts)
27. I would bet everyone here with kids (or not) votes. n/t
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:04 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Vivienne235729

(3,734 posts)
34. For sure. In fact, I talk to my daughter about all things politics. And she sees me voting.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:11 PM
Mar 2020

And how we go down to the registrar's office to check on our voting statuses for myself and for grandma. We marched in the Women's March. The Science Matters march. The people for humane treatment on the border march. We went to see Michelle Obama in person (She's like a ROCK STAR!!). I know we are in the minority. But I am hoping to get more kids into the fold to educate them early on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

question everything

(48,833 posts)
54. I think that this is what happened in 1968
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:28 PM
Mar 2020

After all the riots in Chicago after all the Vietnam protests many - probably most of them young people - stayed home and we got Nison.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(159,374 posts)
30. oh what a load of NONSENSE
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:07 PM
Mar 2020

you're why the OK BOOMER meme came about

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Chellee

(2,211 posts)
42. LOL! Thank you.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:40 PM
Mar 2020

Ladies and Gentleman, Skittles. Kicking ass, and taking names since 2001.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
47. Thank you, Skittles!
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:57 PM
Mar 2020

I’m tired of my generation getting unfairly maligned.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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sop

(11,216 posts)
5. They've been accustomed to receiving Participation Trophies
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:32 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
15. Once again,
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:44 PM
Mar 2020

this is not a new phenomenon. Boomers didn’t show up to vote either when they were young. Quit bashing our youth!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,270 posts)
23. but conservative youth votes
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:56 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
25. Not really.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:59 PM
Mar 2020

Youth vote trends significantly Democratic. Once they do get their shit together, get older, and vote more regularly, Republican’s will be an endangered species.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
38. Thanks for standing up for younger people.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:26 PM
Mar 2020

I'm far from young, so I'm not taking the critical comments personally (and I'm also one of those weirdos who starting voting as soon as I was eligible), but I still appreciate your observations that low turnout among younger people is nothing new. Truth is important.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

defacto7

(13,610 posts)
6. They're the Eloi
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:32 PM
Mar 2020

The GOP are the future Morlocks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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a kennedy

(32,111 posts)
7. They love rallies.......so why don't they get in to the booth AND VOTE.??
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020
We need new blood to VOTE.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

whathehell

(29,803 posts)
28. I guess we need to make voting more "exciting" for them
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:06 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(23,879 posts)
9. Millennials volunteer at a higher rate than other generations; I think many of them feel that
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:36 PM
Mar 2020

volunteering is a more effective way to get change, or it's more satisfying, than voting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
10. I am young. Work. And have never missed an election.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:36 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
11. It's all like, hard 'n stuff.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:36 PM
Mar 2020

Donuts at the polls? What the actual fuck?!

Voting is your fucking JOB! It’s the one single responsibility with which every American is charged. Motherfuckers died horribly trying to to make sure we all share this sacred franchise and some spoiled child needs a special treat to convince them to get off their dead ass and make a mark on a ballot?

“An incentive to come to the polls and vote” my ass.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JackSabbath

(179 posts)
46. No kidding
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:56 PM
Mar 2020

The incentive is a government that better reflects our needs and thus a better life for the governed. How is this hard for some people to understand ?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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WhiskeyGrinder

(23,879 posts)
12. Lotta people being assholes on this thread.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:37 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
53. Yep
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:27 PM
Mar 2020

I should just keep my “structural barriers to young people voting” posts bookmarked for reference, but I’ve come to realize that a lot of people my age are really just self centered assholes who don’t even want to understand the reasons behind things they don’t understand.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

McKim

(2,412 posts)
16. Bashing Will Not Bring them to Biden's Side!
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:46 PM
Mar 2020

Bashing young people will not bring them to Biden’s side for the general election. We must stop this to WIN!!!!! I am proud of my Latino former students for getting involved in politics, says this retired Migrant Teacher!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kevink077

(466 posts)
39. What is said on posts should not matter..
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:29 PM
Mar 2020

If they don’t vote because someone was a big meanie on the internet, they are worse than I thought. They all need a safe space for their tantrum...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Beartracks

(13,579 posts)
19. What's the "incentive"?!
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:49 PM
Mar 2020

Wow.

========

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
20. They're too busy having fun.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:51 PM
Mar 2020

That's the truth. Remember when you were young? It was more important to be out socializing and having fun.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

relayerbob

(7,020 posts)
22. Rallies are deceptive
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 08:56 PM
Mar 2020

People get excited because 10,000 people show up for an event. In a city like Atlanta of 4.6 million people, that's trivial (0.2%) Nearly unknown musicians can fill up the Fox with 3500. Meanwhile, the other 99.8% of the population goes about their business. On election day, a whole bunch of people show up who only have looked at the candidates at the last minute. Most go with what they've always done, or who they've heard some random talk about. You hear, yeah this guy wants a revolution but this other guy is boring, whatever, we need boring right now. Meanwhile, young people do what they have ALWAYS done - anything else.

The excitement of rallies is fine, but doesn't give anything near a true feel for who likes a candidate in the overall election.

I wish Nixon hadn't gone and spoiled the phrase "silent majority", because in fact, that exists, even in an online world. They have spoken loudly and clearly so far

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,185 posts)
31. Voting requires effort
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:08 PM
Mar 2020

You have to register, figure out where the polling place is, maybe stand in line for some time, etc.

Millennials have been raised on an instant gratification system that seldom takes longer than a few seconds to get what they want through their smartphones.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
40. It has nothing to do with
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:32 PM
Mar 2020

“Instant gratification”. Youth NEVER VOTE. The Boomers didn’t in ‘72 and the millennials didn’t in 2016. It’s just an unfortunate fact of life. Like previous generations, they’ll vote with more regularity as they get older. Too much stereotyping in this thread.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(46,227 posts)
57. As a person born basically on the cusp of the Millennial/Gen Z divide
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:40 PM
Mar 2020

(What is called a Zennial or a Zillennial) I find this thread to be a right proper bash if anyone under 40 (the oldest Millennials turn 40 in January 2021). I also think the youngest Millennials and oldest Gen Zers get a tonne of shite and stereotyping from the worst aspects of the core of those 2 gens, especially the earliest 40%, 50% of the Millennials. I have about as much in common with a 39yo Millenial as I do a 43yo Gen Xer, maybe a bit more, but certainly not a vast difference.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,288 posts)
32. It has sadly always been thus
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:08 PM
Mar 2020

And I have no idea why.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(159,374 posts)
33. alas, they are behaving like all younger generations have
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:08 PM
Mar 2020

I wish they would break the mold though, their input is REALLY NEEDED NOW...I feel it is CRITICAL

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Grokenstein

(5,832 posts)
35. Plenty of older cosplay-radicals informing them that it doesn't matter.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:15 PM
Mar 2020

Ben Passmore here places more importance on trolling wypipo than voting the primary, because that will accomplish something. Both side equal bad, yo!

https://thenib.com/identity-crisis-biden-bernie/

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Thomas Hurt

(13,925 posts)
36. Get them a secure phone app they will be all over it.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:18 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
37. Doughnuts? FFS.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:23 PM
Mar 2020

I really don't understand what's going on in this country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dopers_Greed

(2,647 posts)
45. From my view, it's a vicious cycle
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 09:56 PM
Mar 2020

People complain how "hard" it is to vote. They do have a point, as voting should be more accessible, and repuke voter suppression is rampant.

But millennials pick up on this, and start subconsciously believing "Oh it's too hard to vote, why put in the effort." Then election day comes, and their registration is expired, or they don't know which address they registered at.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
48. Vietnam got that generation active. Seeing your friends go off to die wakes you up.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:02 PM
Mar 2020

Young people today have no real equivalent, maybe gun violence. They take all this culture and opportunity for granted, and can't see how it's slipping out of their hands one tiny bit at a time because of not voting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

question everything

(48,833 posts)
58. And yet many stayed home in 1968
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:42 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
70. And how the age got lowered to 18, because
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:40 AM
Mar 2020

they should be able to vote if they could be drafted to risk their lives in a war.

But then it didn't seem to work out if they didn't vote anyway.

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DonCoquixote

(13,712 posts)
50. do keep in mind
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:19 PM
Mar 2020

there are more barriers to milannials voting, like the fact they have to work two jobs and they do not often have access to the id that states need.

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rainy

(6,208 posts)
51. A lot of them are college students and they cant
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:22 PM
Mar 2020

vote in their college state are not home to vote in home state. They could probably use mail in votes but that is not like going to a local place and casting a vote.

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polichick

(37,625 posts)
52. Civics classes were dropped before this cohort reached high school.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:25 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
59. The youth love to come out and party at rallies, but they don't like to go into voting booths alone.
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:45 PM
Mar 2020

Maybe they should have the newest video games playing at the polls to get them to come out.

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Yavin4

(36,399 posts)
60. There's a difference between a "movement" and a "following"
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 10:46 PM
Mar 2020

A "movement" requires constant active participation in every election cycle for multiple candidates across the country, local, state, and federal. It's not dependent on one person.

A "following" only requires minimal participation. A like of a tweet. Going to a rally. A $5 donation. Listening to podcasts. Gives the illusion of active participation. It's dependent solely on one person. And no, knocking on doors during a primary or going to caucus does not meet the definition of active participation.

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Celerity

(46,227 posts)
62. What are the actual age cohorts being specifically discussed here in the article?
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:08 PM
Mar 2020

The play fast and loss with cohorts.

They have the numbers. In 2016, Americans aged 18 to 35 were roughly 31% of the U.S. electorate — same as the powerful Baby Boom generation. Only, the younger voters’ percentage is on the rise while the boomers’ is declining because of mortality. By now, millennials (ages 23 to 38) could be the largest cohort in American politics.

They are, by a long shot, the most liberal and racially diverse of the age groups eligible to vote. By substantial margins, they’re more likely to favor universal healthcare, climate action, diplomacy over military might, abortion rights, and to say that immigrants strengthen America, according to the Pew Research Center. But they’re not changing the country. Not enough.

That’s largely because, for all their potential power, they aren’t voting — at least in substantial numbers.

The dismaying fact is that on Super Tuesday, despite the heavy stakes affecting their future, younger voters didn’t show up. In Virginia, for example, where overall voting surged 62% over four years ago, the share of young voters declined to 13%, three points less than in 2016. The young cohort’s standard-bearer, Sen. Bernie Sanders, won 55% of those young voters. But former Vice President Joe Biden took the state, commandingly.

It was the same in North Carolina. Young voters were 14% of the electorate on Super Tuesday, compared to 16% four years ago. In Tennessee, 11% compared to 15%.


snip


What do they mean by 'YOUNGER VOTERS'?

All Millennials and only Millennials?
or
18-29?
or
18-35?
or
all under 45 year olds?

I have seen EVERY one of those 4 cohorts used hundreds of times to describe 'younger voters'.

Huge difference between the 18 to 29 age cohort, (which is only later 1990 on on born Millennials, Zennials, and early GenZ) versus all under 45yo's, which even includes the last true Gen X years and the Xennial aka Carter Babies micro gen (1977-1980-born.)

I wish they had been more specific, and it is also possible those different state polls themselves even have different meanings for 'young voters'.


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question everything

(48,833 posts)
73. On election day 1996, the local paper searched for the "man in the street" opinions
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:09 PM
Mar 2020

A young college kid said that he did not vote. What was his major? Political Science. Wonder what they teach in Political Science classes.

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Celerity

(46,227 posts)
74. Okay, but what does that have to do with my questions, which were of an empirical nature, not
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:46 PM
Mar 2020

a normative one?

If there is some oblique point you are trying to make, I must confess it does indeed elude me at this particular point in time.

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TheFarseer

(9,497 posts)
63. She should have been alive in the 1870s
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:10 PM
Mar 2020

When I’m told people would pay you to go vote. Donuts are fattening though and maybe you have a gluten thing. What about a dollar off Chipotle coupon? Chipotle could sponsor the election. We can sell naming rights for the voting booths and have a big wheel you can spin for a chance to make your vote count twice. Second prize could be a donut.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

mvd

(65,454 posts)
64. I don't know, but demographics will still be changing
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:27 PM
Mar 2020

Maybe Generation Z will be more active. The changes are why I am optimistic that Sanders’s vision will become closer to reality. Even now Medicare For All has majority support even in states where Sanders is losing.

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quickesst

(6,302 posts)
65. sometimes....
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:28 PM
Mar 2020

.... the answers are simpler than some want them to be.

18 to 25 year olds - science knows why they don't vote
I will start my post with a statement.
There is no "blame" that can be assigned to anyone. It's just scientific fact.

I don't know why so many people have a hard time understanding why young people love rallies which are emotionally stimulating, but do not show up to vote which is, quite frankly, kind of boring, and a lot of the time, requires patience . Science.

************
Snip:
"It doesn’t matter how smart teens are or how well they scored on the SAT or ACT. Good judgment isn’t something they can excel in, at least not yet.

The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed and won’t be until age 25 or so.

In fact, recent research has found that adult and teen brains work differently. Adults think with the prefrontal cortex, the brain’s rational part. This is the part of the brain that responds to situations with good judgment and an awareness of long-term consequences. Teens process information with the amygdala. This is the emotional part."

More at:
https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=3051

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world wide wally

(21,830 posts)
66. They want change, but they want us to do it for them
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:30 PM
Mar 2020
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MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
67. Because it takes a lot of effort to come up with
Fri Mar 13, 2020, 11:54 PM
Mar 2020

things like Boomer Remover. How the fuck can we expect them to vote And be so clever. Jeez don't be so mean.

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Tercules

(32 posts)
68. They keep looking for the Vote button on Sander's twitter account but can't find it.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:25 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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treestar

(82,383 posts)
69. I don't understand it
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:36 AM
Mar 2020

I voted every election since I was old enough to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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betsuni

(27,258 posts)
71. Me too.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 05:56 AM
Mar 2020

It wasn't my parents' influence for that, they were weirdly reluctant to talk about politics. You could put a gun to their heads and they wouldn't tell you who they voted for or why or if they even voted. I just assumed they voted, if they did, for Democrats. It wasn't until I was in my forties that my mother admitted she and my father had only voted for Republicans their whole lives. Because their mommy and daddy were Republicans.

The reason I was adamant about voting from the time I was old enough was my high school American history teacher, now that I think about it. It was my junior year, 1977, but he was stuck in the '50s: white shirt buttoned up to the top and pens in the pocket, huge worn-out leather shoes, a crew cut. I don't even remember his name. Thank you, Mr. crew cut, you did your job very well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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