Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumJust had an unpleasant thought:
Is it possible that Sanders is dragging out the Democratic Primaries to keep in the headlines and with the eventual goal, seeing that he will very likely not win the nomination, of running as an independant??
BTW, I know of no specific reason why that might happen - just worrying out loud I guess...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skittles
(159,374 posts)we are stuck with him
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TheFarseer
(9,497 posts)Just wants to push his issues for as long as possible, I think.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
showblue22
(1,026 posts)He's not some random person. He has power. Why not get to work, write legislation for his issues and make the care for his colleagues to come on board? Perhaps because it's not as glamorous and he won't have adoring crowds.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,490 posts)The GOP are not going to vote for a socialist. And many independents won't either.
So it is like the primary: Sanders cannot win at the ballot box as a independent.
If Joe gets the virus and dies .... that may be why Sanders is taking the role of a vulture when he cannot win at the ballot box.
If Sanders gets the virus, it is very serious with his heart condition.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)I get an if I cant have it... vibe from him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,490 posts)He didn't run as an independent against Hillary. I would after the unfair treatment the DNC gave him in 2016, he was more justified to do so in 2016. But he still didn't.
If this virus takes Joe out and he's still competing ....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)He has already registered to re-run as an Independent for his Senate seat if he doesn't get the nomination.
So in other words, once he loses the Democratic nomination, it's back to being an Independent.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,490 posts)running as an independent would split the vote and give the White House to the GOP. So I find it hard to beat him up on that since it is widely accepted as true.
He doesn't have that issue running for his Senate seat. Arguably, it helps him to run as an independent senator in Vermont.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,760 posts)...then take a second bite at the apple by running in the general election as an independent or for another party. Part of it is to protect the primary process. So, you can either run as an independent. Or, you run as a party nominee. Once you choose a path to the general election, you cannot call a mulligan, since it also will confuse voters regarding the role of a primary versus a general election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(34,666 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Disaffected
(5,063 posts)thanks.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bev54
(11,917 posts)to run under the dem banner he had to agree in writing not to run as a third party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RockRaven
(16,284 posts)What is the priority, getting rid of Trump or fulfilling Bernie's internal motivations? Every Bernie supporter must answer this, in light of the following 2 data points (which admittedly I've seen posted on DU and provisionally accepted as plausible, but have not personally investigated myself):
1) to win the nomination on the the first ballot, Bernie needs a 10% margin of victory in each remaining state, or the equivalent.
2) Bernie is not projected (by 538) to win a majority in any of the remaining states.
So what's the point? Bernie and his supporters will say advancing various policy points.... Sounds good on the surface. What is the COST? Disillusioning Bernie supporters from Biden by repetition over time, encouraging them to sit out the general because their guy didn't get the nomination. That path leads to 4 more years of Trump, and a generational, multi-generational, or permanent deviation of reality from the ideals which Bernie claims to aspire to.
If Bernie wants any Americans, ever, to experience the ideals he espouses, his best chance is to do everything to remove Trump in favor of Biden first, and second do everything he can to move winning-Biden towards his personal agenda/ideals.
But that means subsuming "Bernie" to "Bernie's ideas done in another person's name." Can or will he do that?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)If he needs to, he can say he hopes Biden does what he can to support programs Sanders has been espousing for years.
I dont see how anything else helps beat trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,467 posts)Bernie can no longer perform for adoring throngs. The limelight has gone away. The thrill is gone. What will Bernie do without his adoring fans to cheer him on? What will be the consolation for the looming humiliation in Florida and the rest of the March 17 primaries?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,043 posts)After seeing numerous complaints about him in recent weeks for not being a Democrat unless hes running for President, I considered posting a message that more people here should be thankful that he doesnt run as an Independent! It would probably guarantee another 4 years of Trump!
Bernie isnt THAT crazy, for crying out loud.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SergeStorms
(19,312 posts)If I spend all my time being consumed by worry I will get sick, one way or another. Take things as they come. Change things that you have the ability to change, and let the rest go until it's absolutely necessary to act. Worry leads to stress, and stress is a killer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Disaffected
(5,063 posts)I hesitated for that reason before posting but hadn't seen the possibility mentioned here before and was m/l I guess looking for some reassurance that he won't do it. As others have said, splitting the vote would probably give the win to Trump which would be a calamity we all don't want to contemplate.
The best thing he could do now is drop out after the next debate, if not before (and throw his full support to Biden).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
aikoaiko
(34,202 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Turin_C3PO
(15,922 posts)I do take him at his word that he wont do that. Plus, most states have sore loser laws which prevent losers of primaries from getting on the general election ballot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
iwannaknow
(213 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Polybius
(17,868 posts)I'll be all-in for Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided