Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumHere is the ad Sanders is running in Illinois. Is this helping us beat Trump?
Source: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/04/sanders-kicks-new-phase-campaign-ad-blitz-challenging-biden-march-primary-states
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)been dealing with a lot crap and I need to see something positive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,714 posts)Very negative. Here's how Common Dreams describes it:
A Sanders advertisement titled "Protect Social Security" swipes at Biden for his record on not only that social safety net program, but also Medicare and Medicaid. The ad features audio of the former vice president recalling his argument for a federal spending freeze, followed by Sanders saying: "Well, we've got some bad news for them. We are not gonna cut Social Security. We are gonna expand benefits."
Apparently he's running it all 4 March 17 states: Arizona, Florida, Illinois, and Ohio.
Helpful isn't it?
p.s. hang in there Cha!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)And, Team Biden.. the Voters and I trust Joe Biden not that other guy.
I knew it would be very negative.. if I want to see that kind of smear.. I can listen to the Impeached45.. but I don't.
Hanging in there.. got back from Costco.. the cupboards were almost bare and they were spraying sanitizers on the cart handles.. just another day in the Global Pandemic Crisis.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
It accomplishes nothing but drive negatives up for both.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)It was during a time SS was about to be dismantled. Republicans had control and it looked like it was going to happen. Biden was negotiating cuts instead of total removal.
Bernie has no path, at this point he is helping Trump and there is no other way to look at it. People need to stop giving him the benefit of doubt. Ask yourself... what are his true intentions?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,714 posts)I knew there had to be an explanation. This is oppo research at its worst and unworthy of a Democratic primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)In order to get something done that would help people. Bernie chose to keep his hands clean and not help.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dansolo
(5,385 posts)He sits on the sidelines complaining instead of doing things that actually help people. And if he were somehow become President and none of his plans got passed, I'm sure that he would place the blame on everyone but himself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,643 posts)sanders is attacking Joe for something that sanders is guilty of
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)on it. TY Goth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(33,424 posts)I did a google search and could find nothing even remotely close to what you are describing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LizBeth
(10,824 posts)Biden can handle this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(159,453 posts)it's like BS learned NOTHING from 2016
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Julian English
(434 posts)Typical of BS personal ambition over national unity.
BS needs to face reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(34,683 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,167 posts)The more I see the more turned off I am.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Julian English
(434 posts)Or maybe have Putin approve the add.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(18,149 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,714 posts)I'll give them credit for eco-awareness.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(27,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)our words.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Midnight Writer
(22,999 posts)Kind of like upending the chessboard when you realize you're losing.
Can he not find something negative about Trump to campaign on?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(305,475 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(18,283 posts)...nothing about trump* could warrant an ad?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,473 posts)They always have been. Trump, however, says nice things about Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)
because that is far too kind a description of this kind of bullshit.
Bernie is no longer attacking a political rival for the nomination he is attacking the man who he knows will be our candidate. And if he doesnt know that by now, hes delusional.
Bernie began his campaign attacking the party who gave him a spot on our ticket. He went on to label everyone who didnt support him as establishment Dems or corporate Dems, both labels meant to belittle and demean.
Even back in 2016, I saw Bernie as the snake who would bite us in the end and he did it then, and hes doing it again.
Feel the Bern was never about a revolution against injustice or inequality as much as it was about Bernie being elevated to the position of power he has always felt entitled to. And just like Trump, Bernie has always played to his base without any regard to those outcasts who refuse to drink his particular flavour of kool-aid.
It was inevitable that Feel the Bern would become burn it all down if the primaries didnt go Bernies way and the ad youve posted is the proof thereof.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(18,159 posts)I did vote for BS in the primary in 2016, because I have a very late primary and it was down to him and Hillary. I thought at that time, BS had a better chance of beating Trump in November. I still think that but it doesn't matter, I supported Hillary and BEGGED the BS supporters I knew to back her, once she was the nominee. Some of them were complete shitheads about it. Which I'll admit is part of my strong aversion to BS this time. A strong leader would have done a better job turning his followers to support the actual nominee. Failing to do that helped ensure that my worst fears about Hillary were realized. (And her losing to Trump WAS my worst fear about her.)
But I always hated "Feel the Bern". It's a horrible slogan that is more like "we will beat your ass and raise our flag on your motionless body". Hardly the progressive philosophy I was raised with. Kind of spits on all our previous models of non-violence like Gandhi, MLK, and Mandela. (Kind of ironic when the same "feel the Bern" types complain about other politico's supposed "war-mongering'. Where do they think war comes from?)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blue-wave
(4,488 posts)I voted early in one of the March 17th states and my vote is for Joe Biden!! Not for your smarmy campaign stunts.
Go Joe Go!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:34 AM - Edit history (1)
We know BS' character and motivations. Beating Trump has never ever been BS' priority and he hires people who similarly couldn't care less about beating Trump.
At least we now know that the benevolent interpretations of his recent speech with his questions for Biden were not warranted. They gave BS too much credit. He has no interest in a productive dialogue and maybe work together with Biden to achieve some of his goals, he doesn't want to prepare his followers for unity, he doesn't want to set up the party for a successful general election. That is why gets nothing done in a nutshell.
Hopefully, the current polls are accurate and Biden's lead will almost double next Tuesday. Sure, BS will likely remain in the race as long as he can dupe his followers into sending more money with misleading statements and lies but he'll get more and more irrelevant.
Also, it's such a dishonest tactic to claim Biden advocated for something for 40 years because the first time something was said was 40 years ago while in contradiction to that there is a proven effort by Biden to save these systems. That's like claiming BS has been writing rape fantasies for almost 50 years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,167 posts)Hope to accomplish?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hav
(5,969 posts)or political point of view and it doesn't make sense looking at it from the perspective of Democrats.
But then again, it's this attitude why BS hasn't accomplished anything after decades in Congress.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,167 posts)I am nothing but pragmatic.
I just checked to make sure my voting Precinct has not changed. It hasnt. At my Church, Happy Corners. It is almost across the street from me.
Bernie has gone from a Revolution to an embarrassment. He has his wife in his Ads. She bankrupted a College!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,473 posts)don't you know?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,167 posts)No sarcasm here!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,473 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,167 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(18,283 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(18,283 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snowybirdie
(5,640 posts)running in Florida. I mute it every time I see it. Shame on Bernie!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vivienne235729
(3,734 posts)And yet he still has ads like this playing. I have a real problem w people who carry the water for the GOP and pretend they are a progressive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,473 posts)If he can't win he will burn the house down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FloridaBlues
(4,369 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,714 posts)If I find it I'll post a link
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,714 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)He tweets it, then 10-15 minutes later retweets it, dozens of times a day and he's been doing it for weeks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,643 posts)This is not a good issue for sanders when sanders is guilty of the exact same conduct in the real world
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(16,121 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(154,643 posts)I read the material and the key is that I-understood the material
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(16,121 posts)understand apparently. Theres a term for that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(154,643 posts)The material is clear. sanders wanted to cut social security and is guilty of the same crime that he is accusing Biden of.
sanders' ad was called out for being false. There is a pattern here
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(8,420 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,473 posts)at this point in the campaign. Seems to me it would be political suicide.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doodley
(10,444 posts)not to vote Democrat. He damages the man who will win the Democratic nomination. He helps Trump to win again. This is despicable. Talk about a sore loser, he takes sore losing into the gutter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Or a direct quote from VP Biden. This is toxic poisonous bullshit. If this is what Bernies revolution looks like, I REALLY want nothing to do with it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(154,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)hadn't posted on it.. must have had to got catch a bus or something..
Now I've bookmarked it and posted and will continue to do so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden