Democratic Primaries
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(CNN)As the returns rolled in on Super Tuesday, Joe Biden's aides were flabbergasted.
Huddled at their headquarters in Philadelphia and snacking on candy carted in from the nearby "Nuts to You," Biden's campaign was braced for a long night of election results, according to a senior member of the campaign staff.
The team was cautiously optimistic after a resounding victory in South Carolina and a subsequent consolidation of the moderate wing of the party behind the former vice president. But their goals were still modest: Run up the margin as much as possible in most of the Southern states, and stay competitive in Texas and California.
Not only was the campaign meeting those goals, it was notching victories in places where resources had been withdrawn and field staff had been redeployed, like Massachusetts and Minnesota, and later Maine. There was no television in the conference room where Biden's senior aides were holding the hourly meeting. But with each win, a loud cheer would erupt from the aides in the press area and at the front of the office, interrupting the meeting as everyone ran to the television screens to catch the latest victory.
Just a few days earlier, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders was the race's undisputed front-runner. Biden's campaign appeared ill-equipped to pull off the comeback necessary to win. The fractured field of six top candidates seemed poised to split delegates on Super Tuesday, setting up the possibility of a contested convention.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/politics/2020-election-democratic-primary/index.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)Sanders rather ill-advised "you can't stop me" tweet might have been a catalyst, though Biden was showing signs of moving up in the polls and he was always going to win SC.
Because of some odd choices (like 538's model factoring in the highly-unlikely possibility that Biden would drop out before SC), the race looked much more settled than it really was.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(57,601 posts)first 3 state contests. Nothing could be decided before SC and other southern states with large African American populations had their say.
Sanders' obnoxious "you can't stop me" remark shows how full of himself he was and how he misread the zeitgeist of the nation and mislead his followers with his naivete in thinking the country and party would elect a socialist.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DarthDem
(5,364 posts)But it's no surprise to hear that they factored in. By being wrong.
Go Joe!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)"Ever since he finished fourth in Iowa, Biden has no longer been the favorite in South Carolina, according to our model. Sanders currently has a 1 in 2 (47 percent) chance of winning South Carolina, while Biden has a 2 in 5 (37 percent) shot. However, part of the reason our model has Sanders as the favorite is that it thinks Biden could drop out before South Carolina even votes. In the scenarios where Biden is still in the race come Feb. 29, though, he is probably still favored in the Palmetto State."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DarthDem
(5,364 posts)Their attempted punditry is horrible. Just awful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,551 posts)I loved most of them, yet we are at two. Fact is Joe is the one that can unite us. He has a calming voice and can correct the wrongs.
Once again Dems are coming in to pick up the shattered pieces that the GOP once again left behind. They have destroyed everything good. You have to fix what is broken before you can make any new agenda work.
Go Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)every time a Dem gets in the White House it takes 'em most of their 8 years to fix all the shit that Goppers broke before that.
Then a Republican gets into office again and they start breaking a whole bunch of new shit all over again.
Getting kinda tired of constantly being on the cleanup crew.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,551 posts)*Sigh*
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(48,833 posts)Clinton lost the House in 1994 to Gingrich "contract with America" and Obama lost it in 2010 because of Obamacare.
And this is another thing that irks me: the Republicans see everything in black and right in the "Me Tarzan You Jane." So they come with these catchy slogans "Contract with America," "Make American Great Again." They don't mean much but they work
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)Was thinking about that just last night. Even the Senate "supermajority" the Dems had when Obama took office didn't last for a full 2 years. They actually barely had it for a few months. Franken didn't get sworn in until early July because that asshole Coleman sued and kept it in the courts for many months. Kennedy was real sick and died shortly after that...and they had to wheel Byrd in for votes as well since he was very ill, too. Then Scott Brown won the special election to replace Kennedy in early 2010 and that was the end of that. Thanks a lot, MA....WTF were you thinking???
Throw in recesses and the Dems had only an extremely narrow window to get Obamacare passed. But of course ignorant Republicans who don't know shit about history much less anything else say "hey, you guys had a supermajority for 2 whole years and didn't get anything done."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(48,833 posts)but was told that he should step down when he would feel like it.
He had a stroke on inauguration day and was missing after that. In the euphoria that followed the Obama elections we could have had another D from MA. Martha Coakley, probably, though she still carried the stain of the supposedly child care sex scandal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)We did have a temporary Dem Senator from MA who replaced Kennedy and then voted for the ACA. But then they had a special election to get a voter-approved one and that's when Brown got in there. MA voting for a Republican to replace Ted Kennedy of all people which then cost us our supermajority is just inexplicably mindboggling.
I dunno...it often seems like we Democrats are snakebit...and when there are no snakes around we're shooting ourselves in the foot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,379 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,551 posts)A calm head, one that is well known and respected by all the leaders of the free world. Once again we have to clean house from the bottom up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,379 posts)have our normal lives again, a functioning government that we can rely on instead of these toxic extremes. He was so presidential. So reliable. He actually gave me hope. Im so happy to see millions rushing to get behind Biden now...this article is so good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,830 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Beakybird
(3,391 posts)Or they saw the writing on the wall. But they endorsed a uniter. They could have declined to endorse or endorse a divider.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,830 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,853 posts)They saw the writing on the wall and were smart enough to know that Bernie would get to the convention with the most delegates but not a majority if they all stayed in. In that scenario it would be hard to withhold the nomination from him without fracturing the party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(27,258 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,830 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,551 posts)Searchin' for 'his' lost shaker of salt?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,379 posts)but hes getting boxed out by voters instead, and fast.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)lol.. as were many others! lol I'm still pinching myself. ouch.
What a great exciting article to relive What Happened! I love reading analysis like this when there's such a beautiful outcome.. Mahalo, Bill!
A few snippets I like especially..
But the coalescence behind Biden was so fast and widespread, there wasn't even enough time to shift plans or ad buys before Super Tuesday.
They were so sure.
I'm going to post this first and then read the rest of the article.. Thank You, William!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)I went out to vote for Joe and when I came back he'd won four more states including Minnestoa!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)"exciting"? Just about all the pundits.. it's a meme that got Destroyed on the Super Spectacular Tuesdays!
Mahalo, ucr!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,379 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(87,551 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,379 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,379 posts)feel the solidarity,
Hi Cha
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)it so delightfully well! It's like we were there all over again.. I can never get enough of that.
From the disappointment of the earlier caucus states and NH to now has been a glorious roller coaster ride.. We knew what it felt like to hang in there and wait for South Carolina.. Bless James Clyburn and Jannie Jones!
He leaned over, and she whispered, I need to know who youre going to vote for. He replied: Joe Biden. Are we together?
When its politics, you dont know who for who, she recalled. But she said she gave him a thumbs up and then asked: What are you going to do for him, for the people?
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287648915
Aloha, RB
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(17,379 posts)That is a powerful story.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)undying gratitude as they say.. and I've never said this before.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,467 posts)resurrected Joe Biden's campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)had happened over the weekend of the SC vote.. and someone said.. Lazarus came back from the dead.
Indeed a miracle and Thank you, James Clyburn and Jannie Jones.
He leaned over, and she whispered, I need to know who youre going to vote for. He replied: Joe Biden. Are we together?
When its politics, you dont know who for who, she recalled. But she said she gave him a thumbs up and then asked: What are you going to do for him, for the people?
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287648915
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)Thank you Jannie Jones!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)Mahalo, Jannie Jones and God Bless America!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(48,833 posts)Not with about 50 delegates. And I hope that this is one lesson we've learned. That winning two small states which are not representative of the country as a whole, and a caucus state which, again, is in the minority, do not make a "front runner."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)There were polls flying around showing Bernie winning SC, Biden getting shut out of CA, Biden winning no states on Super Tuesday. And then came South Carolina and that was the end of the glorious revolution.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(48,833 posts)presumptuous. And we got into Catch-22. It looked grim and we lost our hope.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)Having been through a few elections it gets to be a habit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But if you dont have the Base of our part, African Americans you cannot win. As a southerner I knew Bernie was going to get jack shit of their vote.
Wait till Tuesday. Thats point will be driven home.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)see why it wasn't viable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(48,833 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)Here's Mr Scorpio with a pic of President Obama giving the Shaka sign..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10027653223
Indeed it does mean hang loose..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)In the leadup to Super Tuesday, cable news coverage of the race had morphed into what Sanders supporters viewed as a three-day informercial about how Biden was unifying the party. Though Sanders was talking to Warren frequently by phone, the Massachusetts senator was not ready to endorse, another blow to his campaign at a critical time
But the campaign was faltering, partly because Sanders' effort to expand the electorate and build a winning coalition by driving up turnout of independent voters and younger voters did not materialize on the first Super Tuesday or the second. Turnout was up, yet it was Biden who was putting together a broad coalition of older voters, suburban voters and blue-collar voters.
It was a salient point during a period when President Trump cavalierly waved off concerns about the pandemic and later said he'd rather have thousands of people marooned offshore in a disease-infested cruise ship than to bring them on shore and have his number of infected people in America spike.
Thank you again, Bill!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,830 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)to you for the same.. So glad you're back at this point in time.
I love this historical article.. I never would have seen if you hadn't posted it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)People here are no longer anti trade for the most part. They're sick of hearing about NAFTA and hate Trump's trade policies. They think Bernie and Trump are similar on trade. Every time Bernie brought us NAFTA, it hurt him worse. Some here did not believe me. Lol.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,467 posts)in the 21st century.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden