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Uncle Joe

(60,149 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:13 AM Mar 2020

Why I'm voting for Bernie Sanders: Type 1 diabetes taught me we need Medicare for All Opinion



(snip)

I was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes 35 years ago, when I was 4 years old. After earning my degree in psychology, I worked as a social worker for 10 years in foster care, substance abuse counseling, and school mental health services.

I’m a mother of 8-year-old twins and I’ve been a registered Democrat since I was 18. I have stood with my party all the way. But the time has come for real change. We need policy, not platitudes.

I am voting for Bernie Sanders.

Because of inconsistent access to affordable insurance and insulin, the damage to my kidneys is so extensive that I'm applying for a transplant. For 20 years, I faced the “pre-existing condition” roadblock and denials from insurance companies for specialist visits, insulin pumps and glucose monitoring systems. I can personally attest to the outrageous cost of all of the supplies necessary for diabetics to stay alive.

(snip)

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/03/15/heres-why-im-voting-bernie-sanders-medicare-all/5042085002/

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Why I'm voting for Bernie Sanders: Type 1 diabetes taught me we need Medicare for All Opinion (Original Post) Uncle Joe Mar 2020 OP
since sanders never builds cooperation I think you want any improvments, you are wasting your vote beachbumbob Mar 2020 #1
Excellent!!! Thank you!!!! jimfields33 Mar 2020 #2
I've been saying, showblue22 Mar 2020 #15
Those against it have no case that has any credibility. The donor class is not who we should be BeckyDem Mar 2020 #3
Good people can disagree Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #5
At this juncture in American politics its too little too late to suggest we can get there by BeckyDem Mar 2020 #6
+1 Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #9
Good morning, Joe! BeckyDem Mar 2020 #12
If you feel like you have some magic wand to wave and change it..please proceed Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #11
The problem Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #13
There are reasons they don't support it, and its not because their constituents don't support it. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #18
Whatever the reason is, Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #22
There is no good argument against it...costs and coverage. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #25
I'm not really in disagreement with you. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #28
It is, we do agree and why we need all Democrats to support Medicare for All. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #32
Bernie lost the primary. showblue22 Mar 2020 #21
There is not one single dem candidate out there that doesn't want to see ALL have health insurance!! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #7
No one needs health insurance, they need medical care not based on a for profit system. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #10
Nothing is free.. call it whatever you want medical care, m4a Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #17
If not through health insurance that pools all the risks Hav Mar 2020 #20
The "donor class" is a creation of the Sanders campaign. There is no such thing. George II Mar 2020 #14
lol BeckyDem Mar 2020 #19
The mysterious "donor" class donates to Sanders through his PAC. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #30
Nonsense. As if Bernie is the one who refuses to fight for the Green New Deal and BeckyDem Mar 2020 #31
"according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018" TwilightZone Mar 2020 #33
Bernie supports not obstructs policies that Americans support by large measures BeckyDem Mar 2020 #35
This.. along with "establishment Dems" those establishment Dems just passed a huge corona virus Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #23
He also speaks of the "ruling class" even though he's been one of them for 30 years. George II Mar 2020 #26
If he hasn't been able to accomplish it as Representative or Senator, how can he do it as President? George II Mar 2020 #4
And why is that question not put forth to sanders from his followers? Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #8
We'll get to (better than) Medicare for All through realistic steps. Otherwise it will be voted down gulliver Mar 2020 #16
Thank you!! Yes we will Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #24
this sentence is the problem ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #27
If your life depends on getting affordable or covered insulin Hav Mar 2020 #29
Very nice and it won't happen with a repub senate. we can do it Mar 2020 #34
Good luck getting providers with Medicare for all Julian English Mar 2020 #36
That's Fine but there is Less than a 1% Chance he will be on the Ballot in November Stallion Mar 2020 #37
It's a little too late for that, I think. MineralMan Mar 2020 #38
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. since sanders never builds cooperation I think you want any improvments, you are wasting your vote
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:15 AM
Mar 2020
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jimfields33

(18,924 posts)
2. Excellent!!! Thank you!!!!
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:15 AM
Mar 2020

Stunning how we went from proponents of M4A to absolutely disgusted by the thought of it in a matter of weeks.

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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
15. I've been saying,
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:40 AM
Mar 2020

Bernie is hurting not helping the progressive movement. Bernie is not the only one with plans for some kind of universal healthcare. They way we get the best plan is to put all our heads together, work together and develop a plan. It's not, my plan, only my plan and everything else in inferior.

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
3. Those against it have no case that has any credibility. The donor class is not who we should be
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:18 AM
Mar 2020

supporting. Medicare for All 2020

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Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
5. Good people can disagree
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:28 AM
Mar 2020

on how to get universal healthcare. If we increase subsidies to working and middle class for health insurance and expand Medicaid further, a lot of our problems will be solved. Remember, Germany and France have a mix between private insurance and government coverage and their systems work great at providing cheap, accessible, quality, healthcare.

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
6. At this juncture in American politics its too little too late to suggest we can get there by
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:34 AM
Mar 2020

compromise. Every Democrat should be on board, meaning its included in the party platform so we build a unified front against the lobbyists.

A virus is upon us and we are not prepared for many reasons, and without Medicare for All, it will be made worse.

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
12. Good morning, Joe!
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:38 AM
Mar 2020
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Thekaspervote

(34,666 posts)
11. If you feel like you have some magic wand to wave and change it..please proceed
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:37 AM
Mar 2020

Politics is always about compromise. Purity will get you absolutely nothing.

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Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
13. The problem
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:38 AM
Mar 2020

is that we could not get M4A through Congress. Many Dems in the House are very moderate with a few that are bordering conservative. They will not vote for single payer. But they may go for expanding the ACA with a public option, increased subsidies, and further expanded Medicaid. That would certainly be better than nothing. Not perfect but on the right course.

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
18. There are reasons they don't support it, and its not because their constituents don't support it.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:41 AM
Mar 2020

I hope Biden changes his mind.

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Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
22. Whatever the reason is,
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:45 AM
Mar 2020

the fact remains that they’ll vote against it. And then we’ll end up with nothing. And it’s not just big donors who are against removing private insurance. Many of our very own DUers have union health plans that they don’t want to give up.

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
25. There is no good argument against it...costs and coverage.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:49 AM
Mar 2020

No one in any union would have less care for it, and if/when they lose their jobs..think virus, they will have nothing.

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Turin_C3PO

(15,922 posts)
28. I'm not really in disagreement with you.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:52 AM
Mar 2020

But politics is the art of the possible. There will have to be compromise and coalition building to pass any type of healthcare improvements in this country. I wish it weren’t so but it is.

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
32. It is, we do agree and why we need all Democrats to support Medicare for All.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:08 AM
Mar 2020

We can build that fire wall against the Republicans, its popular policy.

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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
21. Bernie lost the primary.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:44 AM
Mar 2020

His health care plan is not the only plan. We need to put our heads together and come up with one that will work. The more people we invite in to create the plan the better it will be. We don't have to accept only Bernie's. He didn't win.

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Thekaspervote

(34,666 posts)
7. There is not one single dem candidate out there that doesn't want to see ALL have health insurance!!
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:34 AM
Mar 2020

The first dem to really push for universal health care was Hillary Rodman Clinton back in 90s.

Sanders likes his followers to believe he is the first one and the only one to ever work for universal health care...give it a rest!

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
10. No one needs health insurance, they need medical care not based on a for profit system.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:37 AM
Mar 2020

Warren and Sanders, that is who supported Medicare for All.

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Thekaspervote

(34,666 posts)
17. Nothing is free.. call it whatever you want medical care, m4a
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:41 AM
Mar 2020

Ask senator sanders or google it for yourself as to why a m4a program adopted in VT was such an abysmal failure

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
20. If not through health insurance that pools all the risks
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:43 AM
Mar 2020

and is in essence a part of a social system where the costs are distributed over all, how else can we have a sustainable system where people don't have to fear to go bankrupt once something happens?

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George II

(67,782 posts)
14. The "donor class" is a creation of the Sanders campaign. There is no such thing.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:38 AM
Mar 2020
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TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
30. The mysterious "donor" class donates to Sanders through his PAC.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:57 AM
Mar 2020

"Our Revolution has taken in nearly $1 million from donors who gave more than the limits and whose identities it hasn’t fully disclosed, according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018. Much of it came from those who contributed six-figure sums."

https://apnews.com/345bbd1af529cfb1e41305fa3ab1e604

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
31. Nonsense. As if Bernie is the one who refuses to fight for the Green New Deal and
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:06 AM
Mar 2020

Medicare for All. He receives money from people who support those policies not ones who reject those policies.

Our Revolution, Accused of Dark-Money Spending for Sanders, Took Only Six Donations Over $5,000 in 2019, None Larger than $25,000
Aída Chávez

February 26 2020, 2:08 p.m.

https://theintercept.com/2020/02/26/our-revolution-bernie-sanders-donor-contributions/

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TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
33. "according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018"
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:09 AM
Mar 2020

Not 2019. Nice try, though.

Watchdog group files FEC complaint:

https://apnews.com/cd7a58676b6fc8cbe2f9783f469d0bee

They're also wrong about 2019. Those donations haven't been disclosed.

"It won’t have to publicly reveal its 2019 fundraising until after this year’s presidential election. And money it raises between now and then won’t have to be disclosed until the following year. "

But then, it's the Intercept, so no surprise there.

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
35. Bernie supports not obstructs policies that Americans support by large measures
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:13 AM
Mar 2020

and will help working class people.

What do think he is hiding, healthcare industry, Big Pharma funneling money to him?

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Thekaspervote

(34,666 posts)
23. This.. along with "establishment Dems" those establishment Dems just passed a huge corona virus
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:45 AM
Mar 2020

Relief bill among other things. They...those terrible, awful, nasty establishment Dems are the ONLY thing standing between us and the total annihilation of our constitution and democracy

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George II

(67,782 posts)
26. He also speaks of the "ruling class" even though he's been one of them for 30 years.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:49 AM
Mar 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
4. If he hasn't been able to accomplish it as Representative or Senator, how can he do it as President?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:20 AM
Mar 2020
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Thekaspervote

(34,666 posts)
8. And why is that question not put forth to sanders from his followers?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:35 AM
Mar 2020
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gulliver

(13,329 posts)
16. We'll get to (better than) Medicare for All through realistic steps. Otherwise it will be voted down
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:41 AM
Mar 2020

The large majority of people have healthcare, and they vote. They aren't going to vote in a government takeover of health care in one fell swoop. Sanders, for example, could never get anywhere with his proposal in the Senate. There's a reason for that. It has no chance.

Make a version of a Medicare Advantage plan a public option, and increase subsidies and Medicaid to cover all. We have a chance to do that now. We have proven success with Obamacare, despite Republican sabotage. We can build on it, and it will pass.

Medicare without an Advantage plan on top of it sucks anyway. There's no MOOP for one huge thing. We need to stop saying "Medicare for All." That probably conjures up visions in the minds of seniors of having to share a system that is already way too stingy and complicated. We need national health care that's better than Medicare.

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Thekaspervote

(34,666 posts)
24. Thank you!! Yes we will
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:46 AM
Mar 2020
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ismnotwasm

(42,456 posts)
27. this sentence is the problem
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:51 AM
Mar 2020
We have a crisis in America, and only Bernie has been fighting for economic, social, and environmental justice his entire career


No, not “only Bernie” Jesus Christ. How does one be “a registered Democrat since I was 18”
and arrive at that conclusion?

Yes we need universal healthcare. What we don’t need is slogan politics
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Hav

(5,969 posts)
29. If your life depends on getting affordable or covered insulin
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:54 AM
Mar 2020

the last thing you should do is putting your trust in BS helping you. You need solutions now.
Affordable insulin is a topic that pretty much all candidates have identified as a prime example of profiteering that endangers the lives of those in need.

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we can do it

(12,777 posts)
34. Very nice and it won't happen with a repub senate.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:11 AM
Mar 2020
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Julian English

(434 posts)
36. Good luck getting providers with Medicare for all
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:58 AM
Mar 2020

Medicare for all is a pipe dream. You can scream all you want for it, but the votes in the House aren't there, let alone the Senate.

There is a shortage of Medicare providers already. Many physicians won't see Medicare because the reimbursement sucks. Medicare for all doesn't address this.

Medicare for all is unrealistic when we can't even get fair drug prices for Medicare and Medicaid.

There is NO Republican support for it. The Supreme Court, now packed thanks to Sanders in 2016, is against it.

Thanks, BS, for screwing up 2016. Too bad you haven't learned a thing in 2020.

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Stallion

(6,613 posts)
37. That's Fine but there is Less than a 1% Chance he will be on the Ballot in November
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:08 PM
Mar 2020

there is, in addition, less than 1 in a 1000 chance that Bernie Sanders will be able to get elected AND Shepard Medicare for All through the 60 vote cloture majority to even get a vote on Medicare for All. So the real question you face is whether Joe Biden or Don Trump gives you the best option for your medical care. This is called logical, practical thinking

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MineralMan

(147,606 posts)
38. It's a little too late for that, I think.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:20 PM
Mar 2020

Clearly, Bernie Sanders will not be the Democratic nominee. If you're still holding out hope for that, it is a false hope.

Join us in getting Joe Biden elected in November, won't you?

Biden 2020
You Go, Joe!

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