Democratic Primaries
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
California_Republic
(1,826 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Boomers are voting in ways that would steal the future from young people.
Boomers are voting in a way to get rid of Donald Trump, the single biggest problem that young people and everyone else has right now. He's the guy who first fired the pandemic team, cut the CDC budget, tried to kill Obamacare, and cut funding for Obamacare. He's the guy who sat on his ass instead of pushing for millions of coronavirus tests, too busy patting himself on the back for 'containing' the coronavirus instead of creating a PLAN B in case the virus wasn't contained.
If we don't get rid of Trump, he will keep making decisions that result in more people dying, young and old. In Italy, half the people in their ICUs are under 60 years old. Just because older people die more often does not mean coronavirus cannot kill the young, and it doesn't mean it cannot scar the lungs of people who do survive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,505 posts)most boomers will support Trump, according to polls. Im just glad we have the good boomers on our side with Joe Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)without exception. Pretty remarkable to say for millions of people, never thought I'd ever say such a ridiculous thing, but the enormous differences are extremely clear. If you're not part of the solution, you're the problem. And the problem is huge.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,505 posts)but I love Boomers. My parents are boomers. Much of the great legislation in this country was passed by Boomers. I wish they werent quite so conservative but theyre still a remarkable generation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And that my descendants mostly feel the same.
I'm a "great legislation" boomer, at least as much as I was old enough in time to support.
My husband is silent generation. That label has always taken a lot of hits, but liberals of those days helped make some very great legislation happen before boomers were old enough to weigh in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
silverweb
(16,402 posts)What's the problem? What Charlotte is saying is basically an elaboration on this excellent advice: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-update-how-protect-yourself-catch-advice-graham-medley-behave-a9402456.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)have to deal with. My vote as a boomer is to save America and about getting things done for all us, not pie-in-the sky bullshit
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brewens
(15,359 posts)for spreading it to someone that dies. We won't really be able to prove it was their fault will we?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marble falls
(61,913 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dawg day
(7,947 posts)I'd take their threats more literally.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marble falls
(61,913 posts)Do they really think they voted their interests by skipping the election or protest voting for Trump instead of Hillary Clinton?
These are the 'voters' we need to pander to???
Like you say, IF they would get out and vote. The truth of it is if they got out and voted they would probably not vote in a bloc. About 50% of women voters voted for Trump who made no secret of how much he worked against their interests.
Since when does a Democracy work by taking the threats of a non voting segment 'literally'.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....to drop their phones, drop their Nintendos (or whatever they're using these days), get OFF their asses and vote themselves!
That guy has been on an all-out crusade against us for months.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,505 posts)As shown by your stereotyping of young people as Nintendo playing and phone obsessed. No generation is better than another. Im just glad that as these Millennials are growing up, theyre keeping their liberal viewpoints from when they were younger. If that trend continues, Republicans will soon be an endangered species.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,505 posts)For some reason they never have. From what Ive read, thats partly why McGovern lost. They thought the youth would turn out and vote for him but they didnt. And Nintendo and phones werent to blame back then.
Young people should be more engaged, no question. As they get older, they will be, just like previous generations.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,154 posts)Anand Giridharadas
@AnandWrites
We are living in a moment of passive-aggressive generational warfare.
Boomers are voting in ways that would steal the future from young people.
And many young people are shrugging off the virus in ways that risk stealing the future from boomers.
We are asking many young people to sacrifice, and they should. We are telling them that, while they risk little by getting infected, they endanger others. We are telling them were in this together.
But when young people make similar claims in politics, do their elders listen?
The virus isnt the beginning of our social contract.
Young people have been voting for real change for years now, only to have it thwarted by older voters.
They want guaranteed healthcare, but people who already have care cant be moved to send down the ladder.
This is why we shouldnt be selective in our we-are-all-in-this-together arguments. Because its a maxim that is always true, not just when it benefits you.
Its true about staying home from bars. And its true about paid sick leave and Medicare for All.
Feeling in-this-together with people is a societal habit. Theres a reason it is in short supply right now during the virus. Because we havent been cultivating this habit in our politics and civic life.
So, yes, #StayTheFHome. But also: Vote for policies that help others.
If you look at any opinion survey of young people, young people are not the reason we have a low minimum wage, bad healthcare, job insecurity, unaffordable debt, etc.
Young people have been voting overwhelmingly for a we-are-all-in-this-together society and being rejected.
The message a young person might take from living in this era is: I guess were all in it for ourselves.
That is a message thats going to get a lot of people killed in this crisis. Its wrong and needs to be fought. But it cant just be fought by telling people to stay home.
We are living on the back end of a four-decade cultural project to make us disbelieve in having each others back.
As we fight the virus, we must remember that this is the larger battle were in and enlisting in it may be the key to beating the virus.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FM123
(10,111 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,154 posts)And that's been true for decades. The rate of young voter turnout has been about half of that of us useless, superannuated Boomers since they've been keeping statistics. Don't like what's happening? Go and vote. You could even take a selfie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,154 posts)For those age 65+ it was 66.1%; for age 45-64 it was 59.5%; for age 30-44 it was 48.4%. So, once again, the voting rate for Boomers was almost twice that of the youngest group. https://www.census.gov/content/census/en/library/stories/2019/04/behind-2018-united-states-midterm-election-turnout/jcr:content/par/image_copy.uscbimg.576.medium.jpg/1555959891829.jpg Your statistic lumps three groups together, not just the youngest voters, for the total number of votes cast, but as the second chart in your link indicates, the percentage of youngest eligible voters who actually vote still remains the lowest of all age groups. As I said before - they don't vote. If they want something to happen they need to do better than 35.6%.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(43,380 posts)Link to tweet
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Young people have been voting for real change for years now, only to have it thwarted by older voters.
They want guaranteed healthcare, but people who already have care cant be moved to send down the ladder.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Get half a vote. They're being thwarted by older people who each get two votes, I guess.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(43,380 posts)Maybe if they just showed up and voted?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aka-chmeee
(1,154 posts)like "Incredibly gross things Boomers still think are cool" and "Terrible things that Boomers ate",etc ad infinitum have led me to believe my initial leaning 1n 1970 to not have children may have warranted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)generation that ever lived. Its very odd that they would complain about that tendency elsewhere.
Im happily GenX we're barely even noticed, which is fine by me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dawg day
(7,947 posts)And the arrogant up and comers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,154 posts)1996-born Zennial here who concurs with this. And I do find Gen X to be so forgotten, which is so strange as your Gen was born from 1965 to to 1980, which is right at peak influence or nearing it soon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)stuck between the demographic juggernauts of the Boomers with their numbers and buying power and Millennials with, well, their numbers I guess.
The Boomers outnumber and outspend us sufficiently so as to ensure that they havent really aged out of power the way their parents did. The energy and savvy of the Millennials will probably allow them to leapfrog the Xers if they ever figure out how to vote. Well be quietly in the background with our Smiths records hoping not to piss anyone off.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)I gave him a piece of my mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aeromanKC
(3,460 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aeromanKC
(3,460 posts)My bad for assuming. (you know what they say about that) Dem Boomers are saving America!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden