Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie voted against the auto bailout?
That would have put dozens of relatives out of work.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(18,167 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,350 posts)...a small piece of a much bigger Wall Street bailout that he thought was structured poorly (essentially all benefits to the banks, all risks to the government/taxpayers).
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Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)so he voted against it and his excuses are meaningless as Michigan showed him last Tuesday. Sanders betrayed the unions in this case.
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thesquanderer
(12,350 posts)As I recall, the argument at the time was, no, that wouldn't have happened, because there was no way SOME kind of Wall Street bailout was not going to happen, there were too many people in favor of it, on both sides of the aisle. So if that particular bill hadn't passed, it is not true that the banks and auto companies would all have gone under, but rather, everyone would have had to keep working to come up with a bill that would pass. But ultimately, the time pressure to get something done quickly was immense.
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Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)No one was in favor of bailouts ...Sanders always seems to what is political expedient with a long winded explanation...nope autos would have failed, banks would have too...we would have been screwed...this is one of the reasons, I have never thought Sanders should be president...he can't bend when circumstances require it. Sanders deserved to lose Michigan and he should lose Ohio, Wisconsin..anyplace that depends on autos...he betrayed the working people with this vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,350 posts)LOTS of people were in favor of them... that's why they passed! With a good amount of bipartisan support, no less.
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Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)would have been over. Look you can defend Sanders if you choose...my husband worked for autos...they were hours away from failing when this vote was taken...it would have been too late and we would have had a depression too...I don't like Sanders, I don't think he would be a good president...sure if he were the nominee, I would vote for him but thankfully that is not the case...regardless of what might have happened later...Sanders voted against this bill and the banks couldn't be allowed to fail either...so there you have it...he made a very bad choice and none of his explanations move me one bit...nor it appears did it move the voters in Michigan.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)But there's always going to be someone who needs to be grandstanding at at moment in history when being a gadfly was not being helpful. Ugh.
People haven't forgotten. Thankfully.
People also haven't forgotten his pro-Russia / anti-sanction votes ... or being "conveniently" absent.
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Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)weary. Obama used political capital to save the banks and the autos...and that vote where Sanders voted no could very well have derailed the entire process if it failed. I expect we would have entered a depression. And isn't it funny how Sanders has all sorts of lofty excuses when in fact it is politically expedient for him to vote a certain way. Another example is the immigration bill which was supported by both Kennedy and Biden...but Sanders claims it was 'slavery'...and the gun votes show his love of excuses for votes that benefit him politically also.
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still_one
(96,609 posts)provided the Dodd Frank financial reform, which unfortunately trump and company are trying to undo
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trueblue2007
(18,149 posts)FOR THAT REASON ALONE.
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still_one
(96,609 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,656 posts)but some support trump here in Michigan.
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thesquanderer
(12,350 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
doc03
(36,737 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We're seeing how just a relatively little devastation is working for him. Not. Most people don't want to destroy what they know can work well. Revolutions need devastation that, combined with deceit, seems so dreadful that large numbers of people lose hope of rebuilding what we once had.
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Peacetrain
(23,627 posts)Democrats know how to handle money for the benefit of all and not one side or the other!!!!!
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NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)We made money from those loans.
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Peacetrain
(23,627 posts)and throw us into such a debt crisis that they then try and blame us for the poor fiscal management they do..
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It makes me sick.
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Blue_true
(31,261 posts)with even the best legistlation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden