But I also like Pete.

I still like Pete. I can say that.

Republicans.

Rice is an excellent choice and I believe she's got a good chance of being on the ticket.

It will be Ukraine/Burisma for the entire 2020 campaign, and Benghazi/Hillary if Rice is Biden's running mate.

There are many qualified female candidates for VP,
beyond the ones frequently mentioned.

I think he will surprise us.

Not even close. You really have to thread the needle with that presidential nominee.

presidential candidate in 2024?

I don't see Biden (or Bernie) going for two terms at this time.

i hopes he will choose WARREN. get those women ..... more liberal and younger voters !!!!!!

Think she would kick more ass as Atty. General.
Went with Klobuchar.

But I'd rather throw it at the current Veep...preferably a poisoned one.

Lol.

Susan Rice for the Supreme Court.

I love Kamala, but I think when she turned on Joe in the debate, (about bussing) the chances of ever being his running mate vanished.

Harris actually has a better lifetime progressive voting record than even Bernie does on "crucial votes".

But Kamala sure does look like a great utility player...Joe can pick her for a multitude of positions and she'd be a fine choice for any of 'em.

Harris has a better score than Bernie overall and not just on crucial votes...

https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?topic=&house=senate&sort=overall-lifetime&order=down&party=

That oughta help shut up any Bernie Bros who are true progressives and not just cult members.

Warren if Joe wants salt...Harris if he wants pepper...Rice if he wants a running mate with tons of national security cred.

Any one of those would drop Pence in the 2nd round.

Joe has more than enough National Security cred, and I don't ever want to hear the word Benghazi during the election. I think it will be Harris.

happening.)

James F. Byrnes, whose short tenure lasted from June 1941 to October 1942, was the last Justice without a law degree to be appointed; Byrnes resigned from the Court after only 15 months to head the Office of Economic Stabilization. His Supreme Court tenure is the second shortest of any justice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_F._Byrnes#United_States_Senate_and_Supreme_Court

likes Klobuchar so I voted Klobuchar. I always do what my wife wants when it's what I want too.

Harris remains overhyped here because of her aggressive senate questioning style. That type of thing doesn't play well in swing voter living rooms.

I'm amazed that isn't better understood

Any of them?

Cuz you say so?

Yeah, no. Not this wife.

I know plenty of married women who would, undoubtedly, be thrilled with Kamala Harris.

Whoever Joe picks, it should be a woman of color, not Amy Klobuchar. No disrespect to Amy but I don’t think she adds that much to the ticket.

Sally Yates has been very impressive every time I’ve heard her testify.

She would add instant credibility to the AG office. She has the experience, and she is apolitical. I don't think she would even want to be VP.

...but since he limited it to a female VP, thought I would add Sally to the mix.

I'm thinking I'd rather have Kamala Harris as AG.

Kamala Harris? No no no no no!!! What is she going to do for a Joe Biden campaign? She barely reached 5% support among black voters during her run for the nomination.
I would rather he look at someone like Val Demings or Ayanna Pressley. He has plenty of time to make a choice.

While I lean towards some woman of color for VP because they have the hunger to setting things right in this country, I like Tammy Duckworth. Besides, if Trumpf says anything about his having bone spurs, Tammy can remind them that her's were blown off in service to our country.

I also like Tammy Baldwin. She needs to get more national exposure

She comes from a solid blue state and her history as a prosecutor won’t help attract progressives.

I worry about Joe’s age even though Warren isn’t much younger. But if we have a 70-something Prez, we sure don’t need a 70- something Veep too. So let’s try to keep that pick under say, 60?

Call me ageist if you want, but I’m 65 and I know I would have been better suited fo a high powered job 10 years ago, as would many other older friends. I know there are some people who are still really sharp into their 70’s , but most are not.

But also comes from a blue state.

Don’t want a repeat of 16

I see no reason to make an effort to attract them.


Progressives in 2016 knew that Trump was incompetent fool and needed no outside motivation to get them to the polls and vote for Hillary. Fake progressives didn't give a shit if Trump won.

But why not try to be unifying?

I'm not going to waste one second of my life trying to find common ground with the useless pieces of shit who call them self "progressive" yet had no problem with Trump getting elected.

but that's not how you win elections.

This will be extremely beneficial in so many ways, but to name a few:

- Selecting Kamala will be Joe's big THANK YOU to AA voters for saving his campaign. I'm being blunt & speaking my mind here folks, so don't shoot me if you disagree. Black voters saved Joe's & our butts!

- Selecting Kamala will be Joe's big THANK YOU to WOMEN voters for turning out in droves helping push the surge in votes across all states

- Kamala's breadth of experience in government, first at the state level then in the Senate, will help Joe tremendously in the work of rebuilding the government and the country in reversing the harmful policies this admin has inflicted upon us.

- Kamala's strong debate and campaigning experience will help GOTV for Joe. She's highly intelligent and capable, and inspires confidence in people, something we so desperately need restored for the American people.

Thanks!

Third one not so much in that experience doesn't matter in electoral politics.

Fourth one might actually be a minus since Harris spent much of her debate time attacking Biden and will be seen by some as a hypocritical opportunist.

Two points that you missed are that Harris comes from a solid blue state and doesn't put any swing states in play. And that her record as a prosecutor might not attract progressive voters.

Furthermore, given Joe's age that person will need to be ready from Day 1.

Re: my 4th point, I'll just say this much: politics makes strange bedfellows

Trump wouldn't be President.

Obama would have lost to McCain

Gore would have beaten Bush

Clinton wouldn't won either

Experience doesn't matter. Never has.

so to paint a broad brush like that to me doesn't make sense.

experience matters when there is no example that proves that is does. Just to say that it does, doesn't make it so.

you don't have any evidence to back up your claim.

that your argument has no evidence to support it.

By the time Nov rolls around, we may be a shell of our former selves.

of when experience mattered in a Presidential election please.

we cannot depend on history for our answers today.

and I never claimed that. But experience has never been a factor in electoral politics so there is no evidence that it will this time. The main factors have always been ideology, demographics and geography.

Particularly with a 78-year-old president in the context of a pandemic.

"doesn't put any swing states in play"

False, she would be an influence nationally, both as a woman and as a person of color. Limiting one's scope to one state while ignoring the big picture doesn't make a lot of sense.

And exactly what swing states does she put in play. If we went by national results, Clinton would now be President.

McCain would have defeated Obama.
Gore would have beaten Bush II.
Clinton would have lost to Bush I.

Enough evidence for you?

And if you want to make experience an issue isn't the guy who has been President the last 4 years more experienced than someone who never has?

Now answer my questions. Show an example in any election that experience mattered. And what swing states does Harris put in play?

I agree on all points. There are some fabulous ladies to choose from. However, I believe Kamala would be the best fit for Joe. I'm also super biased since she was my first choice for president. 😉

I'd have my at the ready.

But I still think Kamala is the one.

I wish people would stop saying this just because she's a black woman. She doesn't have enough experience to be VP.

Plus Florida.

She's not my top choice but should be considered.

Here's why I like Val (to save time, I copied this from an earlier post I did):


I have enormous respect for both Kamala Harris and Stacey Abrams, and I believe either of them would make excellent VPs. But looking further down the road, I think Val Demings might have a slight edge over Harris and Abrams to be president after Joe Biden. I have only recently "alerted" to Demings and her potential as VP and future president, and I have just started reading up on her and watching her interviews on YouTube, but my first impressions are that, along with her many wonderful qualities and impressive background and experience, she has that crucial presidential gravitas. Watching her questioning the witnesses during the impeachment process, she reminded me a little bit of Barbara Jordan during the Nixon impeachment trials. Plus, she's a two-term Congresswoman from Florida (a state with 29 electoral votes), she is a former police chief with a sensible approach to gun control, and—fun fact—she rides a Harley!

But in the end, I would be thrilled to have Kamala or Stacey or Val for VP and then president.

Thank you for posting this! With Val Demings as VP for four years and then president for EIGHT years, just imagine the progress that could be made, as far as the Black Lives Matter and #MeToo movements, not to mention restoring dignity and humanity to the executive branch?

November cannot get here quickly enough!

This forum is the only thing keeping me from going insane at this point! We live in a red county in a red state where we actually have to be careful what we say in public places because we know we're surrounded by Trump Humpers. I had lunch at a small café with a friend last week (a fellow Democrat) and our conversation couldn't help but turn to the Mango Menace. A woman at a table nearby twisted around in her chair and gave me the stink eye! We ignored her and kept talking. Figured if we kept talking, she MIGHT get a clue that Dear Leader might not be the best president this country has ever had after all!

compromise, messaging to promote the Presidents agenda, knowing current elected officials, having time questioning in hearings, and much more.

The VP must.

the Senate, rather than dragging them out to make Biden's run easier.

Why interfere with a successful Senate career to run for Veep? A possibly dead-end job.

Now, Justice and economic cabinet and leadership posts just may be what the doctor ordered for the likes of Harris and Warren. They have specific talents and skills for that sort of thing. We have crises and insanity at HUD, Education, and other departments that need tender loving care.

FWIW, I think a woman for Veep is a great idea, but I don't know why Biden locked himself into it. What's done is done and I hope it works and doesn't cause him more trouble.

There has been alot speculation about it and it does makes sense from the GOP point of view. They may be desperate when they see the polling running up to the convention and they could throw a hail mary like they did with Sarah Palin in 2008.

So our VP needs to match-up well to Haley. She is very knowledgeable, has lots of experience, "young" in relative terms, has good stage appeal and is a minority.

Considering all that, I think Kamala Harris would be the best against Haley. It clearly cant be Warren who would look like her mother or even grandmother on stage. Abrams or Demings would also be good choices but Harris seems the best.

And also pretty progressive. Both could help move Biden to the left.

I know she was a prosecutor but her record in the Senate is very progressive.

I hope her record wouldn’t hurt her but I am sure Biden’s people would do diligence on that.