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Joe Biden/Susan Rice (Original Post) IluvPitties Mar 2020 OP
No. Ninga Mar 2020 #1
agree, we need someone who can hit the ground running from Day 1. onetexan Mar 2020 #9
Biden was the perfect VP for Obama because Ninga Mar 2020 #13
spot on. Experience matters. onetexan Mar 2020 #14
If experience mattered Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #31
Tump is the poster boy for why experience matters! nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #51
Not in electoral politics Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #56
Rep. Val Demings (Impeachment House Mgr) fit these criteria. Seems to be a fav of Pelosi & Clyburn. Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #20
Val Demings was very impressive during the impeachment hearings peggysue2 Mar 2020 #43
Yep! FM123 Mar 2020 #52
Ooh! leftieNanner Mar 2020 #2
Susan Rice has a lot of appeal exboyfil Mar 2020 #3
She's impressive and young, but not too young. I think she's perfect. CTyankee Mar 2020 #5
Either VP or Sec of State. 2naSalit Mar 2020 #23
it makes perfect sense.. stillcool Mar 2020 #30
good evertonfc Mar 2020 #4
She's loyal and can hold her own... Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #19
Rice. I do not need any big personalities. I want substance, smart, capable. LizBeth Mar 2020 #6
Yes, I'm not interested in any "Ms. Popularity". We need someone with gravitas, who can take charge. Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #16
This speech by Susan Rice BlueSky3 Mar 2020 #61
Biden will need an experienced VP. The times Ninga Mar 2020 #7
Two great choices. Polly Hennessey Mar 2020 #8
Samantha Power isn't eligible. JaneQPublic Mar 2020 #10
Perhaps she could return as Sec. of State? 2naSalit Mar 2020 #24
She would be an ideal candidate for that job. JaneQPublic Mar 2020 #26
she is not eligible, yes, but she was born in London, to Irish parents Celerity Mar 2020 #32
Her Wiki page says she was born in UK, but many other sources say Ireland. JaneQPublic Mar 2020 #44
in her autobiography she says she was born in London, raised in Dublin Celerity Mar 2020 #45
Her bio doesn't actually say she was born in London JaneQPublic Mar 2020 #46
Doesn't matter. According to Fox it will be tavernier Mar 2020 #49
I like Rice dailytroubadour Mar 2020 #11
Samantha Power was born in Ireland, emigrating as a child. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #12
she was born in London, to Irish parents nt Celerity Mar 2020 #33
Not born in the US anyway. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #38
yes, either way she is not eligible, you are 100% correct Celerity Mar 2020 #39
Indeed OnDoutside Mar 2020 #40
Val Demmings! samnsara Mar 2020 #15
Yes - solid, well-accomplished individual who can also help deliver Florida in the GE. Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #17
Yes. She has congressional experience and would be ready to go day one. Ninga Mar 2020 #21
Samantha Power born in Ireland MacKasey Mar 2020 #18
she was born in London, to Irish parents nt Celerity Mar 2020 #34
You are correct MacKasey Mar 2020 #47
Too bad Powers is not elegible! Still, I feel Rice could do a phenomenal job! IluvPitties Mar 2020 #22
She could be a Cabinet member again. 2naSalit Mar 2020 #25
Susan Rice is a smart, no nonsense lady Jarqui Mar 2020 #27
Love Love Love them both. applegrove Mar 2020 #28
Kamala... Chakaconcarne Mar 2020 #29
Rice is brilliant and would be a great choice. gulliver Mar 2020 #35
Yeah- I am feeling her! Biden/Rice would be a wonderful ticket. IluvPitties Mar 2020 #36
I love Susan Rice. She is very smart. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #37
She is not a politician by nature. Blue_true Mar 2020 #41
Don't understand the commenters saying she doesn't have the "experience" Tercules Mar 2020 #42
Not a campaigner. Gotta go with Kamala. tinrobot Mar 2020 #48
I like it very much! nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #50
I like it! I am very impressed with Susan Rice! skylucy Mar 2020 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #54
She has "baggage" (the russiapublican fake type) awesomerwb1 Mar 2020 #55
The Republicans would be beating the "meeting on the tarmac with Bill"... 3catwoman3 Mar 2020 #58
No, that was the AG, Loretta Lynch n/t Pompoy Mar 2020 #62
Thank you for the correction. 3catwoman3 Mar 2020 #63
GOOD GOD NO NO NO beachbumbob Mar 2020 #57
I find Representative Demings impressive as hell. 3catwoman3 Mar 2020 #59
Nah. But maybe for SoS? Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #60
I love Rice as VP Pompoy Mar 2020 #64
 

Ninga

(8,612 posts)
1. No.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:58 PM
Mar 2020

While there are many women who are admirable, we do not need a VP who has to undergo a learning curve. We need a VP with:
Legislative experience. Understanding the dynamics of the House and Senate and already knowing the people who serve. Experience questioning in hearings.
On day one the VP will have to hit the ground running to carry out the Presidents agenda and do so with successful messaging.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

onetexan

(13,899 posts)
9. agree, we need someone who can hit the ground running from Day 1.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:06 PM
Mar 2020

There is just so much to rebuild/reverse/rethink. Kamala is the better fit. I'm sure the other 2 ladies can be appointed to other positions in the administration, as there will be great need of good Dem leaders as they.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ninga

(8,612 posts)
13. Biden was the perfect VP for Obama because
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:09 PM
Mar 2020

he brought 40 years of experience to the position.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

onetexan

(13,899 posts)
14. spot on. Experience matters.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:14 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
31. If experience mattered
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 04:35 PM
Mar 2020

Trump wouldn't be President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LAS14

(14,695 posts)
51. Tump is the poster boy for why experience matters! nt
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:08 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
56. Not in electoral politics
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:26 PM
Mar 2020

or Clinton would be President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,724 posts)
20. Rep. Val Demings (Impeachment House Mgr) fit these criteria. Seems to be a fav of Pelosi & Clyburn.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:28 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(11,479 posts)
43. Val Demings was very impressive during the impeachment hearings
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:19 AM
Mar 2020

And . . . she hails from Florida, a state I'd love to see us win.

Biden has a wealth of choices to consider!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FM123

(10,126 posts)
52. Yep!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:14 PM
Mar 2020

We have so much "crazy stuff" here in FL- she is the bright shining light that gives us hope and makes us so very proud.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

leftieNanner

(15,699 posts)
2. Ooh!
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:59 PM
Mar 2020

I like. He should choose someone who is not currently in office - governor, House rep, or Senator. We need to keep our Dems in those positions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

exboyfil

(18,004 posts)
3. Susan Rice has a lot of appeal
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:59 PM
Mar 2020

Because you don't have to muck around with the Senate seat, and, given this crisis, I think we want all our Senators in Washington and not on the campaign trail.

Stability and competence

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CTyankee

(65,056 posts)
5. She's impressive and young, but not too young. I think she's perfect.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:02 PM
Mar 2020

Can't wait to vote for that ticket...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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2naSalit

(92,753 posts)
23. Either VP or Sec of State.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:36 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

stillcool

(32,783 posts)
30. it makes perfect sense..
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 03:29 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,724 posts)
19. She's loyal and can hold her own...
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:24 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LizBeth

(10,823 posts)
6. Rice. I do not need any big personalities. I want substance, smart, capable.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:03 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,724 posts)
16. Yes, I'm not interested in any "Ms. Popularity". We need someone with gravitas, who can take charge.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueSky3

(705 posts)
61. This speech by Susan Rice
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020

I've been on DU for years and don't post much, but this mention of Susan Rice got me to look for speeches of hers. In this one:

-- she's speaking last year for Class Day at Tufts, she shows a lot of wit and that quality everyone talks about, likability.

I hope Joe Biden seriously considers her. But then, I like Val Demings, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ninga

(8,612 posts)
7. Biden will need an experienced VP. The times
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:04 PM
Mar 2020

circumstances require it.
Each and every experience will be new and present as a steep learning curve. Not this time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Polly Hennessey

(7,462 posts)
8. Two great choices.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:06 PM
Mar 2020

I am in the Samantha Powers corner. Susan Rice would be perfect, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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JaneQPublic

(7,117 posts)
10. Samantha Power isn't eligible.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:07 PM
Mar 2020

She was born in Ireland.

Not a natural born citizen as required by the Constitution.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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2naSalit

(92,753 posts)
24. Perhaps she could return as Sec. of State?
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020

Susan Rice would be one of my top picks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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JaneQPublic

(7,117 posts)
26. She would be an ideal candidate for that job.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:48 PM
Mar 2020

And after dealing with Pompeo, the entire world would heave a sigh of relief to deal with Samantha.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Celerity

(46,228 posts)
32. she is not eligible, yes, but she was born in London, to Irish parents
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 04:55 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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JaneQPublic

(7,117 posts)
46. Her bio doesn't actually say she was born in London
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:32 AM
Mar 2020

It says she was born "while Mum was still studying to become a doctor in London."

That says London is where her mother was pursuing a medical degree, not where she gave birth. She doesn't specifically say there where she was born.

The Irish Times article is the same one quoted in her Wiki entry.

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tavernier

(13,258 posts)
49. Doesn't matter. According to Fox it will be
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:07 PM
Mar 2020

Kenya.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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dailytroubadour

(41 posts)
11. I like Rice
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:07 PM
Mar 2020

Susan Rice strikes me as solid, stable, intelligent, experienced, with the right kind of gravitas for the moment we are in. Assuming there are no skeletons in the closet, she would make a fine VP choice.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OnDoutside

(20,658 posts)
12. Samantha Power was born in Ireland, emigrating as a child.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:07 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Celerity

(46,228 posts)
33. she was born in London, to Irish parents nt
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 04:55 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OnDoutside

(20,658 posts)
38. Not born in the US anyway.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 06:06 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Celerity

(46,228 posts)
39. yes, either way she is not eligible, you are 100% correct
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 06:10 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,724 posts)
17. Yes - solid, well-accomplished individual who can also help deliver Florida in the GE.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ninga

(8,612 posts)
21. Yes. She has congressional experience and would be ready to go day one.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:29 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MacKasey

(1,183 posts)
18. Samantha Power born in Ireland
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020

That's too bad

Rice born in Washington D.C. Only 55, is good

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Celerity

(46,228 posts)
34. she was born in London, to Irish parents nt
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 04:56 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MacKasey

(1,183 posts)
47. You are correct
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:27 PM
Mar 2020

The summary on Wikipedia says Ireland but when you click on the details it says London

Thanks

I won't go by the summary anymore, will look at the full Wikipedia

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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
22. Too bad Powers is not elegible! Still, I feel Rice could do a phenomenal job!
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:29 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

2naSalit

(92,753 posts)
25. She could be a Cabinet member again.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:38 PM
Mar 2020

She was before.

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Jarqui

(10,490 posts)
27. Susan Rice is a smart, no nonsense lady
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 01:51 PM
Mar 2020

She'd be on my short list.

I like Samantha too but born in Ireland would be a problem.

We have a lot of great, talented women candidates who can also help fill a great cabinet

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

applegrove

(123,156 posts)
28. Love Love Love them both.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 02:00 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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gulliver

(13,329 posts)
35. Rice is brilliant and would be a great choice.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 05:18 PM
Mar 2020

I love listening to her. On the fly she can verbally put together parsable sentences with about sixty words, three sub-clauses, and a parenthetical–with zingers. I almost feel sorry for Pence if he has to debate her. He would be obliterated.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
36. Yeah- I am feeling her! Biden/Rice would be a wonderful ticket.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 05:38 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LiberalFighter

(53,475 posts)
37. I love Susan Rice. She is very smart.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 05:48 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. She is not a politician by nature.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 06:53 PM
Mar 2020

Do we really want a technocrat facing a liar like Pence in a debate?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tercules

(32 posts)
42. Don't understand the commenters saying she doesn't have the "experience"
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 10:01 PM
Mar 2020

She's been in politics basically her entire life. Advocating a president's policy goals to legislators doesn't require having actually been a legislator. And she's probably second to none in the ability to deal with foreign governments, given her foreign policy and ambassador background. IMO would be a much stronger ticket than someone like Stacy Abrams, a current favorite amongst many here, and much more able to hit the ground running if something happened to Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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tinrobot

(11,474 posts)
48. Not a campaigner. Gotta go with Kamala.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:48 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LAS14

(14,695 posts)
50. I like it very much! nt
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:07 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

skylucy

(3,854 posts)
53. I like it! I am very impressed with Susan Rice!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:14 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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awesomerwb1

(4,567 posts)
55. She has "baggage" (the russiapublican fake type)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:15 PM
Mar 2020

So it would be a no for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

3catwoman3

(25,455 posts)
58. The Republicans would be beating the "meeting on the tarmac with Bill"...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:54 PM
Mar 2020

...drum immediately.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Pompoy

(148 posts)
62. No, that was the AG, Loretta Lynch n/t
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:56 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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3catwoman3

(25,455 posts)
63. Thank you for the correction.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:00 PM
Mar 2020

My apologies.

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beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
57. GOOD GOD NO NO NO
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:43 PM
Mar 2020

why give GOP bait to attack????????????????????????

If I were to vote in a presidential
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3catwoman3

(25,455 posts)
59. I find Representative Demings impressive as hell.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:56 PM
Mar 2020

She is one badass woman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Pompoy

(148 posts)
64. I love Rice as VP
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:07 PM
Mar 2020

I hope Biden hasn't already shut the door on her by saying he prefers the ones he debated already.
He needs a woman, and he needs her to be black.

Stacy Abrams, sounded great, but we don't really know her. Kamala sounds like the front runner, but I do have reservations about her, from her making funny faces when Schummer told her to be more respectful, to her past in San Francisco climbing the ladder with Willie Brown's help.

Val Demings got me excited because she was great during the impeachment hearings, but I don't know if she has any negatives I'm not aware of.
Susan Rice is awesome, and she has been vetted, Susan Rice it is for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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