Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumIn 24 hours we will have a presumptive nominee for the Democratic Party
The numerical possibility of Biden achieving the nomination under proportional allocation will move from 99% to 100%.
The thin veneer of pretense that Sanders (I) has an outside chance of getting a first ballot win or go to a second ballot where Super Delegates can overcome the popular vote will no longer be tolerated by any serious person regardless of who they personally support.
A small cadre of folks who believe that if you really really believe life can mirror a musical and groups can break out into dance and orchestrated song and that Bernie is not only a very sweet person but can also win will persist but even Sanders (I) will acknowledge the obvious.
Sen Sanders (I) will face the ultimate professional challenge of his life
1) make the decision to become a team player and make an enthusiastic and unqualified endorsement of Vice President Biden, or,
2) find an ideological pretense ("let everyone have an opportunity to let their voice be heard at the ballot box", or some other nonsense) so that he can continue to build a post 2020 war chest that will enable him to raise up a couple of dozen true believers to run against Democratic incumbents in 2022 primaries.
It would be great to see Sanders (I) exit at the top of his game with grace and dignity, but it is doubtful.
What is known is that after tomorrow this country will start taking a step away from the ledge of bombastic incompetence, aggressive self promotion and criminal greed.
I will stop waking up in the middle of the night with clenched teeth and a recitation of all the Presidential stupid of the day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)Good Luck to us all!
Thank you for this, grant.. The day we get rid of the monster in the WH who is killing our people and environment cannot come soon Enough Already!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Card to tell Bernie to stay in the race.
I am guessing he ends the campaign in June with $ 25 million.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)really think about that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Walleye
(35,868 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(116,939 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(70,197 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pazzyanne
(6,604 posts)I have been worried about this since the beginning. Don't have the same worry about Mr. Stupid I am sorry to say. You can't fix stupid!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Macima
(13 posts)No in person voting tomorrow.
https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200316/coronavirus-ohio-supreme-court-allows-delay-to-primary-election
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,475 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LisaL
(46,624 posts)OH Supreme court denied a challenge by a local candidate. It didn't rule that election can be cancelled or postponed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)dirty donnie...at least that is the plan...this was a trial balloon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(52,834 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gademocrat7
(11,174 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:09 AM - Edit history (1)
Sanders really needs to go. We had word today and I can't say where or how that we soon may have a big three shutdown...for a minimum of two weeks. Sanders should get the fuck out and accept he lost which he has.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)Biden won't be able to go 4-for-4 today.
Joe will have to be satisfied with only going 3-for-3 with an intentional walk.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)Which means Bernie has to win 71% of the remaining delegates. There is not a single pro-Bernie state left except maybe Rhode Island where in Sanders' best case scenario, he will net 2 delegates.
Even if Biden loses ALL the remaining states by 40:60, he still gets a majority of the delegates.
Drop out Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,350 posts)...that it will finally be a mathematical impossibility for any other outcome to exist, no, that won't happen today, Biden needs more than 1000 additional delegates, and there aren't nearly that many up for grabs today.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)Sanders to catch Biden...Already Sanders would have to win all the races by at least 20 points which will not happen.he is done and after today, there is no path. He should concede tonight.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,350 posts)Words have meanings. As long as Bernie could conceivably win by capturing all remaining delegates, it is not mathematically impossible for him to win. Of course that's not going to happen. But if we're going to talk about what's not going to happen, well I think we've already passed that threshold (and you do as well, based on "Already Sanders would have to win all the races by at least 20 points which will not happen" ). So what if after today, he would have to win all remaining races by 30 or 40 points instead of 20? That's still in the "will not happen" category, but not mathematically impossible.
But assuming today goes as expected, with Biden further increasing his delegate lead over Sanders, I do think it would be good for Sanders to step aside.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)I guess we will find out about what sort of character he has...in the middle of a dangerous crisis will he do the right thing and end the primary? He has no path to the nomination and only hurts our efforts in the General.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(12,350 posts)I agree, realistically, he won't win 70% of the remaining vote. Nor is he going to win 57%, which I believe was the number as of yesterday (or thereabouts). But as long as the number does not exceed 100, it is not mathematically impossible, and I'm not sure getting 70% is so much less likely than getting 57%!
Though just to play devil's advocate, there is a way he could conceivably win 70% or more of remaining votes... god forbid... something happens to Biden that forces him to quit the race. Though perhaps even then, some who "suspended" their campaigns would re-enter? I have no idea how that would work. And I hope we never find out!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,024 posts)can't catch him give proportional allocation after tonight...he will have to 350 to 400 delegates more than Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Sanders would have to consistently win 75% of the vote in primary voting states.
His largest margin of victory at the polls was Vermont. Biden is likely to surpass 70 in 2 states today.
While the bare numbers would allow for a theoretical chance the assumptions needed for any scenario where Sanders could catch up are so fantastical as to put it at less than 1/10th of 1 %.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,473 posts)but will never stop fund raising or campaigning. He will run again in 2024 no matter who wins this year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)Forgot to send absentee in time. There was no sanitizer at polling place , but I have a bottle.
Go Blue!!💙 🇺🇸
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Thank you!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden