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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:33 PM Mar 2020

Is there a Sanders supporter who can offer some reasonable justification for Bernie remaining in

the race if, as now looks all but certain, he loses by a landslide in all 3 of today's primary elections?

Please no Sirota-style BS avalanches. Just make some sense of prolonging this if you can.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Is there a Sanders supporter who can offer some reasonable justification for Bernie remaining in (Original Post) Atticus Mar 2020 OP
Good luck getting an answer. I've been asking that since Saturday...crickets. George II Mar 2020 #1
I have heard from some of them...let everyone vote...same old same old. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #3
I think Biden should make start making concessions to Sanders Legends303 Mar 2020 #2
He's not winning with them in the primaries frazzled Mar 2020 #4
"Bernie has the energy of the young people on his side" wyldwolf Mar 2020 #6
All the more reason for Sanders to get out...and he needs to concede to Biden. And as for enthusiasm Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #7
Concessions were made right and left in 2016, and how'd that turn out Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #8
+1. dalton99a Mar 2020 #37
We proved that they don't show up to vote NCProgressive Mar 2020 #9
I think we can expect about 18% of the youngest to actually vote D in general election. Sunlei Mar 2020 #72
Then they shouldn't demand drastic policy changes from the majority NCProgressive Mar 2020 #75
I think some "old people" want faster progressive change too. Sunlei Mar 2020 #77
Medicare for all is dead NCProgressive Mar 2020 #79
no its not dead, it may be M4 over age 50 within two years but that dogs not gonna ever die. Sunlei Mar 2020 #85
Public option added to ACA will accomplish that NCProgressive Mar 2020 #89
is part of party platform questionseverything Mar 2020 #109
Sanders tearing down the man who will be facing Trump in November is not going to accomplish that. Doodley Mar 2020 #88
He's not tearing him down, Bidens a strong man and is willing to debate. Sunlei Mar 2020 #94
Two years? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #107
Actually we will. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #11
That's just not true. BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #12
What is not true? NCProgressive Mar 2020 #82
Biden won. Bernie is getting brutalized out there! IluvPitties Mar 2020 #14
That youth vote energy of which you speak..6% on ST, 7% on ST2. So no, no concessions to Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #15
Exactly. Clear policy concessions to progressives from Biden... IllinoisBirdWatcher Mar 2020 #45
lol fail ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #17
Young people at the polls itsrobert Mar 2020 #20
What young people? The ones who aren't voting, as usual? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #27
I think not. Aquaria Mar 2020 #32
An energetic vote doesn't count any more than than an indifferent one Walleye Mar 2020 #33
If we had some indication that those young people would show up, it would help. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #35
Maybe yes maybe no FM123 Mar 2020 #49
Youthful, energetic campaign staffers aside Vogon_Glory Mar 2020 #50
If the young people did not show up to vote for Bernie in the primary, TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #53
The young people love to go to his rallies BuddhaGirl Mar 2020 #58
You mean the ones he can't even turn out right now? Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #70
I don't think it's about that for Sanders ecstatic Mar 2020 #87
Senator Sanders has some of our youth Tweedy Mar 2020 #90
The young people did not come out for him. They didn't vote. If Biden makes concessions to emmaverybo Mar 2020 #102
He has to stay in so his family members can keep DURHAM D Mar 2020 #5
And his nutbag "advisers" too. Aquaria Mar 2020 #36
I wish you'd listen to Joe Biden more often. Sunlei Mar 2020 #61
so you're not really undecided because you only have one choice left? Sunlei Mar 2020 #54
Is Sanders a Democrat right now or not? I can never remember if he is in the party now or not. Doodley Mar 2020 #92
oh that's an old line. You do understand what a spoiler is? Sunlei Mar 2020 #96
Does this sound like a spoiler? One who spends more time attacking an ally during battle Doodley Mar 2020 #99
no it doesn't, it sounds like a circular firing squad attacking a part of the D party. Sunlei Mar 2020 #103
Sleep tight. Doodley Mar 2020 #104
Blanket press coverage for the Democratic message? Shermann Mar 2020 #10
No concessions to Bernie and no deal at all NCProgressive Mar 2020 #13
+1000 Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #29
I call that Biden or bust, we need to love them both-they are both on our team Sunlei Mar 2020 #63
They lost the election and got 2 things NCProgressive Mar 2020 #76
what makes you think any real D will vote for republicans, much less for the conman president. Sunlei Mar 2020 #83
Because it happened before when they were conned NCProgressive Mar 2020 #84
now you're after Michael Moore too! The Clintons have him over for dinners. Sunlei Mar 2020 #91
yawn NCProgressive Mar 2020 #95
good night and sleep well & please vote for the D party! Sunlei Mar 2020 #98
He should stay in just to piss off all you Biden supporters (just kidding) SBoy Mar 2020 #16
cool story bro ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #18
Do you really have to stomp on me and gloat in Victory? SBoy Mar 2020 #22
Would it have helped if he'd have added a parenthetical "just kidding"? nt Atticus Mar 2020 #25
Yes ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #26
Sorry you got stomped on. The OP asked for a reason and you politely supplied one. femmedem Mar 2020 #74
Just like he did in 2016? nt DURHAM D Mar 2020 #19
He made 39 campaign appearances for HRC SBoy Mar 2020 #21
And how many days were there between the convention Aquaria Mar 2020 #44
So, you agree Biden will be the nominee? nt Atticus Mar 2020 #24
Yes he will SBoy Mar 2020 #28
I understand the purpose of having a primary to be the selection of our Atticus Mar 2020 #51
As soon as Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Warren, Harris, et al realized it was over for each of them, sop Mar 2020 #105
What happened to sanders' magical voter revolution? Gothmog Mar 2020 #31
Wow treestar Mar 2020 #62
Holy eff. I never would have guessed that. nt Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #73
Nope. SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #34
The number of delegates Sanders has at the end will be irrelevant. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #39
That dog won't hunt this time. Aquaria Mar 2020 #40
The number of Sanders supporters who have no idea that a $15 minimum wage and betsuni Mar 2020 #81
His message is sharp enough to beat Sanders Walleye Mar 2020 #41
Bwahahahaha. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #47
The man has been in Congress for THIRTY YEARS. Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2020 #57
It might keep his voters treestar Mar 2020 #60
Do you think he should continue attacking? NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #67
"...to sharpen his abilities to take on Trump"? brush Mar 2020 #108
So Biden can't "stay alert and on message" without Sanders getting more delegates? ehrnst Mar 2020 #114
++ polichick Mar 2020 #115
Buttigieg gave up a very real chance to finish third in the primaries dsc Mar 2020 #23
Agree Frances Mar 2020 #64
This should be entertaining. Aquaria Mar 2020 #30
because everyone(every state) should have their chance to vote in the primary Sunlei Mar 2020 #38
Why? Walleye Mar 2020 #42
Because there are votes to count and delegates to assign based on votes. Sunlei Mar 2020 #52
We are voting as a party to pick a nominee to beat trump Walleye Mar 2020 #56
I vote in primary with my heart/feelings. If Biden wins he will have my vote in GE Sunlei Mar 2020 #69
I love all the folks on DU. Just don't get their reasoning sometimes. Walleye Mar 2020 #80
There are downballot races treestar Mar 2020 #65
Please reread the OP. I said "reasonsble". nt Atticus Mar 2020 #59
"reasonable justification" ? Tennessee Hillbilly Mar 2020 #43
House #4. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #46
Beating Trump has been assured by the pandemic and the crash. Frasier Balzov Mar 2020 #48
I honestly just have no idea how to respond to this. nt Atticus Mar 2020 #68
No, we need to win down-ticket, too. He needs to suspend... brush Mar 2020 #106
No idea what he is doing TheFarseer Mar 2020 #55
Yes! zz-la Mar 2020 #66
I am tempted to ask what "large continent" these Democrats are on, but will pass on that Atticus Mar 2020 #71
Who knew SunsetDreams2 Mar 2020 #93
Bernie doesn't represent any wing of the Democracy Party, he's an Independent Walleye Mar 2020 #86
Biden should start focusing on the general election. No more debates. OrlandoDem2 Mar 2020 #101
What "wealthy PACs and corporations?" ehrnst Mar 2020 #110
Ask the last WWII Japanese soldier to surrender on Guam in 1972. Hoyt Mar 2020 #78
I feel sorry for Sanders. As a socialist I agree on most of what he says policy-wise. Doodley Mar 2020 #97
I am very disappointed in all the establishments, billionaires, 1%, oligarchs, corporatists, betsuni Mar 2020 #100
Remaining in... 2golddogs Mar 2020 #111
Why would they even respond based on the hatred here? USALiberal Mar 2020 #112
Candidates who has dropped out (others) are leading Bernie Sanders in Florida. Gothmog Mar 2020 #113
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Good luck getting an answer. I've been asking that since Saturday...crickets.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:36 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
3. I have heard from some of them...let everyone vote...same old same old.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:37 PM
Mar 2020

Total BS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Legends303

(481 posts)
2. I think Biden should make start making concessions to Sanders
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:36 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie has the energy of the young people on his side and we will not win without them in the general.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. He's not winning with them in the primaries
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:38 PM
Mar 2020

So I think we need to move onto the next explanation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
6. "Bernie has the energy of the young people on his side"
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:39 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
7. All the more reason for Sanders to get out...and he needs to concede to Biden. And as for enthusiasm
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:40 PM
Mar 2020

they don't turn out for Sanders...we have to hope some will vote against Trump and we can make the voter base larger as Biden has been doing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Docreed2003

(17,812 posts)
8. Concessions were made right and left in 2016, and how'd that turn out
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:40 PM
Mar 2020

Cornell West, who represented sanders and helped form the platform, turned around and supported Stein!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
9. We proved that they don't show up to vote
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:40 PM
Mar 2020

If they wouldn't show up for Bernie, they won't show up for Biden either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
72. I think we can expect about 18% of the youngest to actually vote D in general election.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:08 PM
Mar 2020

This primary it's been about 12 percent, those new voters just don't turn out in huge numbers in America.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
75. Then they shouldn't demand drastic policy changes from the majority
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:16 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
77. I think some "old people" want faster progressive change too.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:23 PM
Mar 2020

Wouldn't it be a better America with age 50 and above on medicare insurance? This can be very possible in two years even with a President Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
79. Medicare for all is dead
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:24 PM
Mar 2020

Move on

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
85. no its not dead, it may be M4 over age 50 within two years but that dogs not gonna ever die.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:32 PM
Mar 2020

ACA will at the minimum RE-ADD the provision for medicare for over age 50 at the minimum with a D president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
89. Public option added to ACA will accomplish that
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:34 PM
Mar 2020

which is Biden's plan. It is called "Medicare who want it"

Like I said, move on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Doodley

(10,429 posts)
88. Sanders tearing down the man who will be facing Trump in November is not going to accomplish that.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:33 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
94. He's not tearing him down, Bidens a strong man and is willing to debate.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:38 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(87,552 posts)
107. Two years?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:02 PM
Mar 2020

Those 65 plus years of age will be dead from the Coronavirus. How about we address that right now! He failed to address that the other night and went into his stump speech of Medicare for all.

He was asked a simple question and failed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(87,552 posts)
11. Actually we will.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:41 PM
Mar 2020

We have the black vote and the elder vote. Stats tonight show Sanders can't even rally the youth vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
12. That's just not true.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:41 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
14. Biden won. Bernie is getting brutalized out there!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:43 PM
Mar 2020

What concessions are you talking about?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(34,666 posts)
15. That youth vote energy of which you speak..6% on ST, 7% on ST2. So no, no concessions to
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:44 PM
Mar 2020

sanders. The Dems did that in ‘16 and they still didn’t vote.

Biden has already said he would be adopting some of Warren’s ideas on bankruptcy and sanders ideas on student loan debt

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,316 posts)
45. Exactly. Clear policy concessions to progressives from Biden...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:17 PM
Mar 2020

and no policy concessions I can see from Sanders. Just more of the same. Still running negative ads.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
20. Young people at the polls
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:50 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,903 posts)
27. What young people? The ones who aren't voting, as usual?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:04 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
32. I think not.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:10 PM
Mar 2020

Losers don’t dictate terms to winners. Especially not losers who couldn’t win even a single county in multiple states.

You want people to listen to you?

Show that you have voter support for what you’re selling.

At least Hillary had big wins under her belt in 2008.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Walleye

(35,730 posts)
33. An energetic vote doesn't count any more than than an indifferent one
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:11 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
35. If we had some indication that those young people would show up, it would help.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:11 PM
Mar 2020

Unfortunately, we don't. We've been hearing the same thing for five years, and it has yet to materialize.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FM123

(10,126 posts)
49. Maybe yes maybe no
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:19 PM
Mar 2020

Here in my state of FL - there was no school this entire week during early voting and for Tuesday - high school kids that are 18+ and college age kids could have cast ballots for Bernie if they wanted. They didn't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Vogon_Glory

(9,572 posts)
50. Youthful, energetic campaign staffers aside
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:21 PM
Mar 2020

If Bernie’s campaign has as much of the youthful energy that you imply it does, his young voter totals would not only have matched Bernie’s youthful turnout of 2016, it should have SURPASSED it by at least 200 percent.

So why did Bernie have FEWER youthful voters this primary season? Where did they go? Where they even there?

I hate sounding like a cranky old grandpa, butI’m still an old fart who can operate a calculator and crunch numbers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TexasTowelie

(116,830 posts)
53. If the young people did not show up to vote for Bernie in the primary,
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:25 PM
Mar 2020

then why would we believe they would show up for the general election?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BuddhaGirl

(3,649 posts)
58. The young people love to go to his rallies
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:28 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:29 PM - Edit history (1)

Kind of like they love to to go to concerts and music festivals.

They're on board with his ideas. But then they don't show up to vote for him. So how committed are they?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Maru Kitteh

(29,098 posts)
70. You mean the ones he can't even turn out right now?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:04 PM
Mar 2020




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(34,376 posts)
87. I don't think it's about that for Sanders
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:33 PM
Mar 2020

He will concede when his donors/handlers give him the OK to concede and not a moment sooner.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tweedy

(1,150 posts)
90. Senator Sanders has some of our youth
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:34 PM
Mar 2020

But not nearly enough obviously.

We still need to work harder to attract our young folks if their vote share is going to be remotely close to 2012, much less 2008.

Joe Biden has already adopted Senator Sanders free college notion. Senator Sanders barely acknowledged this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,147 posts)
102. The young people did not come out for him. They didn't vote. If Biden makes concessions to
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:06 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie’s unrealistic plans, he will lose votes. The majority of Dems don’t want his agenda. They voted for Joe as will independents and disenchanted Republicans. Bernie lost all counties in SIX
states.

The revolution has been rejected.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DURHAM D

(32,838 posts)
5. He has to stay in so his family members can keep
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:38 PM
Mar 2020

getting a pay check.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
36. And his nutbag "advisers" too.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:11 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
61. I wish you'd listen to Joe Biden more often.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:35 PM
Mar 2020
"Winning means uniting America. Not sowing more division and anger."

Biden 3/3030

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
54. so you're not really undecided because you only have one choice left?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:25 PM
Mar 2020

you are going to vote D aren't you?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Doodley

(10,429 posts)
92. Is Sanders a Democrat right now or not? I can never remember if he is in the party now or not.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
96. oh that's an old line. You do understand what a spoiler is?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:47 PM
Mar 2020

*The spoiler effect is the effect of vote splitting between candidates or ballot questions who often have similar ideologies. One spoiler candidate's presence in the election draws votes from a major candidate with similar politics, thereby causing a strong opponent of both or several to win*

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Doodley

(10,429 posts)
99. Does this sound like a spoiler? One who spends more time attacking an ally during battle
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:57 PM
Mar 2020

than he spends attacking the enemy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
103. no it doesn't, it sounds like a circular firing squad attacking a part of the D party.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:07 PM
Mar 2020

night night, I have a 7am client to meet and need my sleep!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Shermann

(8,654 posts)
10. Blanket press coverage for the Democratic message?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:40 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
13. No concessions to Bernie and no deal at all
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:42 PM
Mar 2020

We need all the centrist independent and republican votes - they vote more reliably than the unicorn hunters.

Biden will lose them all if he moved left and may get the socialist label.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
63. I call that Biden or bust, we need to love them both-they are both on our team
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:38 PM
Mar 2020

Thank the Gods Biden has always been a good listener.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
76. They lost the election and got 2 things
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:18 PM
Mar 2020

the bankruptcy bill and free college in public institutions in their state.

They are a small minority and should go along with Biden because trump is certainly not going to give them ANYTHING.

Extortion is not usually rewarded.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
83. what makes you think any real D will vote for republicans, much less for the conman president.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:28 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
84. Because it happened before when they were conned
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:30 PM
Mar 2020

by the likes of Susan Sarandon, Michael Moore, David Sirota, Nina Turner and others

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
91. now you're after Michael Moore too! The Clintons have him over for dinners.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:36 PM
Mar 2020
If the Clintons can support the big tent for all democratic voters we can too!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
98. good night and sleep well & please vote for the D party!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:51 PM
Mar 2020



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SBoy

(92 posts)
16. He should stay in just to piss off all you Biden supporters (just kidding)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:46 PM
Mar 2020

I think he should stay in to accumulate as many delegates as possible to maximise the ability to influence the Party Platform. It also will require VP Biden to stay alert and on message to sharpen his abilities to take on Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SBoy

(92 posts)
22. Do you really have to stomp on me and gloat in Victory?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:52 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
25. Would it have helped if he'd have added a parenthetical "just kidding"? nt
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:01 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

femmedem

(8,444 posts)
74. Sorry you got stomped on. The OP asked for a reason and you politely supplied one.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:14 PM
Mar 2020

I do hope Sanders will drop out now. My state's primary hasn't happened yet and those of us who don't get absentee ballots will be facing a choice about whether or not to literally risk death to vote.

But I've been passionate about candidates who didn't win. I've knocked doors for them. Heck, I've run for office and lost by less than two dozen votes. Anyone who doesn't understand your disappointment and respect your engagement is ... well, the politest thing I can say is don't let them get you down because their snarky anonymous comments aren't worth it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DURHAM D

(32,838 posts)
19. Just like he did in 2016? nt
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:49 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SBoy

(92 posts)
21. He made 39 campaign appearances for HRC
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:51 PM
Mar 2020

He will be a team player when it’s needed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
44. And how many days were there between the convention
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:17 PM
Mar 2020

And the election?

And he only managed 39 appearances?

While doing zilch for down-ticket races.

Color me unimpressed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
24. So, you agree Biden will be the nominee? nt
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:53 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
51. I understand the purpose of having a primary to be the selection of our
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:23 PM
Mar 2020

party's presidential nominee---period. Accumulating delegates for the sole purpose of forcing his views into the party platform smells like blackmail: "Do it my way or I'll 'support' you with the same "enthusiasm" I showed for Hillary."







If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sop

(11,216 posts)
105. As soon as Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Warren, Harris, et al realized it was over for each of them,
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

they ended their candidacies and endorsed the most likely winner. That's what Democrats do in primaries. Still, against all odds, Sanders doggedly hangs in there, going on and on about thirty-year-old senate votes, Joe's billionaire donors and M4A, his supporters constantly attacking Biden all over the internet.

Everyone else, including the most moderate centrists, promised to support Bernie, no questions asked, if he won, because that's the only way Sanders could beat Trump in the general. But, too may Bernie supporters can't see their way clear to return the favor. Hell, they didn't even want to vote for their own guy when they had the chance.

Now Biden is supposed to bend over backwards to placate the Bernie left, folks who might not even turn out in November, no matter what concessions are made. In the process, Joe risks losing moderate Republican voters who might vote for a Democrat simply because they're finally sick and tired of Trump's divisive BS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(154,590 posts)
31. What happened to sanders' magical voter revolution?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:08 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
62. Wow
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:37 PM
Mar 2020

more voters now with the virus than in 2016!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Maru Kitteh

(29,098 posts)
73. Holy eff. I never would have guessed that. nt
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:11 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
39. The number of delegates Sanders has at the end will be irrelevant.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020

They don't translate into bargaining power when one candidate out-delegates the other by 1,000 delegates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
40. That dog won't hunt this time.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020

The party platform has always been plenty liberal enough. For those who bothered to read the damned thing.

The voters have spoken, and they don’t want what he’s selling.

No concessions to sore losers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(27,258 posts)
81. The number of Sanders supporters who have no idea that a $15 minimum wage and
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:26 PM
Mar 2020

a public option and Medicare at 55 ACA and the words "health care is a right, not a privilege," along with campaign finance reform, making the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, etc., is in the platform is very high. Sometimes if you tell them, they still don't believe it, and it seems like some sort of rule that it is forbidden to look upon the platform with their own eyes. I guess if you get it in your head that both parties are the same except for a few "identity politics" things, you CAN'T accept reality, you'd have to change all your opinions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Walleye

(35,730 posts)
41. His message is sharp enough to beat Sanders
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:14 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(87,552 posts)
47. Bwahahahaha.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:19 PM
Mar 2020

Influence the party platform, like West....his surrogate Corny West went off to vote for Jill Stein. The great guy that called Obama a house N*gger. Bernie himself wanted to primary Obama. Lol~

SBoy
16. He should stay in just to piss off all you Biden supporters (just kidding)

I think he should stay in to accumulate as many delegates as possible to maximise the ability to influence the Party Platform. It also will require VP Biden to stay alert and on message to sharpen his abilities to take on Trump.


Nah. We don't really need Stein voters at all, nor those that sat it out. They made their decision last go around and now we have tRump.

I vote blue, always.

PS...I don't think you are kidding at all.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
57. The man has been in Congress for THIRTY YEARS.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:28 PM
Mar 2020

If he hasn't yet been able to "influence the Party Platform" by now, I seriously doubt his staying in the race can accomplish that.

And don't expect trumpie to tolerate ANY debates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
60. It might keep his voters
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:32 PM
Mar 2020

More attached to him for longer, and make it more and more likely, with time, to write him in, vote third party, vote for Dotard, or not vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(8,405 posts)
67. Do you think he should continue attacking? NT
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:51 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(57,601 posts)
108. "...to sharpen his abilities to take on Trump"?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:03 PM
Mar 2020

Are you kidding? Guess you haven't listened to that fat, lying, hardly-on-top-of-anything, dotard lately?

I doubt that blowhard will agree to a debate after he saw what Biden did to Sanders in their debate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
114. So Biden can't "stay alert and on message" without Sanders getting more delegates?
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:45 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dsc

(52,632 posts)
23. Buttigieg gave up a very real chance to finish third in the primaries
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:53 PM
Mar 2020

with only one gay mecca having voted in order to help the party. Seeing Sanders utter, complete, and total selfishness is nothing short of infuriating to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Frances

(8,579 posts)
64. Agree
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:43 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders is too much like Trump IMO
They are both all about themselves

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
30. This should be entertaining.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:07 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
38. because everyone(every state) should have their chance to vote in the primary
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020

I voted super Tuesday.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
52. Because there are votes to count and delegates to assign based on votes.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:23 PM
Mar 2020

Why not? why would you want to dismiss about 30 percent of the D voters before they even had a chance to cast their votes?


This is why great people like Obama are totally silent because they also know "why"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Walleye

(35,730 posts)
56. We are voting as a party to pick a nominee to beat trump
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:27 PM
Mar 2020

Not to express our feelings

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
69. I vote in primary with my heart/feelings. If Biden wins he will have my vote in GE
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:02 PM
Mar 2020

I'm a progressive, I want faster progressive change. I love Biden and Sanders

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Walleye

(35,730 posts)
80. I love all the folks on DU. Just don't get their reasoning sometimes.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:25 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
65. There are downballot races
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:43 PM
Mar 2020

Some may have a primary.

Everyone in later states is in the same boat. Even Biden voters are not needed after a certain point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
59. Please reread the OP. I said "reasonsble". nt
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:30 PM
Mar 2020


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 
43. "reasonable justification" ?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:16 PM
Mar 2020

There is no "reasonable justification" for Sanders to stay in the race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Frasier Balzov

(3,488 posts)
48. Beating Trump has been assured by the pandemic and the crash.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:19 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie should stay in to advocate for his vision of a post-Trumpian world.

There is no risk or downside to it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
68. I honestly just have no idea how to respond to this. nt
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:59 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brush

(57,601 posts)
106. No, we need to win down-ticket, too. He needs to suspend...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:39 PM
Mar 2020

and use his considerable war chest and mailing list to help unify the party and win the Senate.

Enough of the selfish egotism.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheFarseer

(9,497 posts)
55. No idea what he is doing
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:27 PM
Mar 2020

He’s just going to look foolish if this goes on much longer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

zz-la

(224 posts)
66. Yes!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:48 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders represents the last remnants of the true progressive wing of the Democratic party, and as such he speaks for a large continent of Democrats who otherwise have no voice and have seen their issues and concerns largely ignored and only used as a prgamatic bargaining tool to further a corporatist Democratic agenda run by large wealthy PAC's and Corporations. If Biden is truly worthy of the nomination then let him prove it. The longer Sanders remains in the race, the more concessions he can draw from Biden, and while it may be insignificant to some of you: a higher minimum wage and COL adjustment as well as expanding Medicare are issues worth fighting for.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
71. I am tempted to ask what "large continent" these Democrats are on, but will pass on that
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:08 PM
Mar 2020

and simply remind you that I did specifically request "no Sirota-style BS avalanches".

Is that all you've got?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SunsetDreams2

(386 posts)
93. Who knew
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020

Vermont was a continent

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Walleye

(35,730 posts)
86. Bernie doesn't represent any wing of the Democracy Party, he's an Independent
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:32 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OrlandoDem2

(2,270 posts)
101. Biden should start focusing on the general election. No more debates.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020

He can balance uniting the party, attracting all Democrats, and focusing on Trump. He can ignore Bernie and so all of the above simultaneously.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
110. What "wealthy PACs and corporations?"
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:43 AM
Mar 2020

Can you name them?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
78. Ask the last WWII Japanese soldier to surrender on Guam in 1972.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:23 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Doodley

(10,429 posts)
97. I feel sorry for Sanders. As a socialist I agree on most of what he says policy-wise.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:48 PM
Mar 2020

But all that he is going to do by staying in, is to lose more and more respect. He will be seen as a bad loser, a spoiler and a divider by continually attacking Biden. His poll numbers will continue to go down as Biden's goes up. And when Sanders eventually drops out, I think his reputation will be in tatters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(27,258 posts)
100. I am very disappointed in all the establishments, billionaires, 1%, oligarchs, corporatists,
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:57 PM
Mar 2020

the donor class, coastal elites, wealthy lobbyists, Big Pharma, Big Oil, Wall Street, the corporate media conglomeration, the DNC, Third Way ... did I leave anyone out? ... that Bernie says have stopped at nothing to defeat him. Stopped at nothing, eh? I don't think so. He's still in the race. Come on, all these supernaturally powerful organizations and people out to get him and it ends up being the voters (the people, as in power to; speaking truth to power) who do the most to stop him? Embarrassing, like when the Wicked Witch of the West melts when accidentally splashed with water. What a world.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

2golddogs

(108 posts)
111. Remaining in...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:58 AM
Mar 2020

I’ve been wondering, at what point is it a mathematical impossibly? I assume it isn’t now, but would one more Super Tuesday-type Election Day do it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
112. Why would they even respond based on the hatred here?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:04 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(154,590 posts)
113. Candidates who has dropped out (others) are leading Bernie Sanders in Florida.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:13 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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