Democratic Primaries

ucrdem

(15,714 posts) Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:11 AM Mar 2020

BBC: Game over for Bernie Sanders?

Anthony Zurcher
North America reporter
7 hours ago

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Some have suggested that the decision to continue with Tuesday's primaries is evidence that the Democratic Party establishment is trying to crown Biden before their man can surge back into contention - given them all the more reason to soldier on.

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Sanders should have a long think about how long he wants to stay in this fight, however, even if he does have more than enough financial resources to carry on.

He was swept on Tuesday and lost five out of six contests last week. With the primary calendar in the coming weeks emptying, there's little opportunity for him to change his momentum at the ballot box anytime soon.

Sanders is going to face growing calls from Democrats to gracefully bow out - something he did not do until the eve of the convention four years ago, much to the consternation of many Hillary Clinton supporters.

The bottom line for Sanders may be evaluating what's best at this point for the movement he created. Will staying in the race give him a greater platform to talk about his issues and buy him time for a comeback? Or will hanging around only increase the chances that he is relegated to an electoral afterthought?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51939829

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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BBC: Game over for Bernie Sanders? (Original Post) ucrdem Mar 2020 OP

The "movement" doesn't show up at the polls NCProgressive Mar 2020 #1

Their line is that the elections should have been postponed due to virus. ucrdem Mar 2020 #3

Yes ... the myth of NCProgressive Mar 2020 #4

They were quick to call for postponement on Sunday ucrdem Mar 2020 #5

I have had Enough! McKim Mar 2020 #13

I meant Sanders campaign officials. ucrdem Mar 2020 #14

Geez I hope Bernie and/or his supporters PatSeg Mar 2020 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #2

Joe gave a great fireside-chat victory speech. ucrdem Mar 2020 #6

The 844 delegates Joe still needs is slightly less than the 861 Bernie has won Clash City Rocker Mar 2020 #7

I think it is over. ucrdem Mar 2020 #8

He's playing very dangerous game that only benefits Trump. Any "Scorched Earth" philosophy... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #9

Those tv ads worry me. ucrdem Mar 2020 #10

Surely he knows he can't win the nomination. Those ads are intended to HURT BIDEN AGAINST TRUMP. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #11

Yes, that's what worries me. ucrdem Mar 2020 #12

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)

1. The "movement" doesn't show up at the polls

Reply to ucrdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:15 AM

Mar 2020

Sanders should quit immediately.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,714 posts)

3. Their line is that the elections should have been postponed due to virus.

Reply to NCProgressive (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:16 AM

Mar 2020

It was rigged against Bernie you see.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)

4. Yes ... the myth of

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:17 AM

Mar 2020

"Bernie never loses. He gets screwed."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,714 posts)

5. They were quick to call for postponement on Sunday

Reply to NCProgressive (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:19 AM

Mar 2020

as soon as the debate went south for Sanders. And many predicted this complaint would follow.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

McKim

(2,412 posts)

13. I have had Enough!

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 08:08 AM

Mar 2020

I have had enough bashing from Biden supporters. This is just so wrong and so unproductive!
Give it a rest. How can we come together when you are stomping on Sanders supporters. The 2016 election is over. Recognize that the Sanders campaign has good ideas and incorporate some and welcome them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,714 posts)

14. I meant Sanders campaign officials.

Reply to McKim (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 08:17 AM

Mar 2020

No offense intended to Sanders supporters here. I know it's been rough. Did you hear Joe's speech last night? He had nothing but praise for Sanders and his supporters, admired their energy and commitment, and hoped they would join him in the fight against Trump.

Here are his remarks last night:

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

PatSeg

(49,726 posts)

15. Geez I hope Bernie and/or his supporters

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 09:05 AM

Mar 2020

don't start that crap about the DNC and the election being rigged against him or how the media never gave him a fair shot. The media pretty much ignored Biden until he won South Carolina AND the DNC didn't force people to vote for Joe.

I am really, really hoping Bernie exits the race gracefully and with dignity. Otherwise, he will be remembered primarily for being a bitter loser who didn't know when to quit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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ucrdem

(15,714 posts)

6. Joe gave a great fireside-chat victory speech.

Reply to democratisphere (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:24 AM

Mar 2020

Said all the things Trump has never gotten around to saying about coronavirus, even before mentioning the two races he'd just swept (this was before Arizona was officially closed). He gave it from home because of the virus and I heard it in my car. The format really worked well for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Clash City Rocker

(3,541 posts)

7. The 844 delegates Joe still needs is slightly less than the 861 Bernie has won

Reply to ucrdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:31 AM

Mar 2020

It’s effectively over. The best thing now is to unite the party against our common orange enemy. Bernie needs to think about his legacy, and what will help his cause. If M4A results in four more years of Trump, it will leave a sour taste in voters’ mouths for years to come. But Biden will improve our healthcare situation if he gets elected. It’s important in politics to know when you have the votes and when you don’t.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,714 posts)

8. I think it is over.

Reply to Clash City Rocker (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:34 AM

Mar 2020

I expect a quiet push to make it official before the next round of primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

9. He's playing very dangerous game that only benefits Trump. Any "Scorched Earth" philosophy...

Reply to ucrdem (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:39 AM

Mar 2020

... only serves to kneecap and damage Biden going forward.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,714 posts)

10. Those tv ads worry me.

Reply to NurseJackie (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:47 AM

Mar 2020

Until he officially concedes there's nothing to keep him from running them ...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

11. Surely he knows he can't win the nomination. Those ads are intended to HURT BIDEN AGAINST TRUMP.

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:49 AM

Mar 2020

Basically "If I can't have it, then you can't have it either" ... that's what's going on here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,714 posts)

12. Yes, that's what worries me.

Reply to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:52 AM

Mar 2020

We know and he knows it's hopeless, but what if the goal is not to win the nomination? That's why he's going to have to be pushed, and soon. I'm pretty confident it will happen in the next week or so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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