Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBiden will need a VP that can do the heavy lifting of drafting new legislation, budgets, policies
Biden will be walking into a shit show after Trump. God only knows just how fucked the world will be when he assumes the office. If this crisis ended today, it would take a year or more to get us back to normal.
We have to get out of the frame of mind that once we elect Biden, it will be Obama's world all over again. No, friends, the world will be in a much worse place than when Obama took over in 2008. Much worse.
Biden needs a real partner to help him through this mess. Biden needs the best policy maker in the Democratic party, and that Democrat is Elizabeth Warren bar none.
My fear is that the moderates will pull Biden to the center and have him focused on the budget which would be a huge fucking mistake. He needs a Progressive near him to pull him towards the bold changes that will be needed to get this country back on its feet.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(11,027 posts)No one is better equipped for saving the country from Republican shitshows.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marble falls
(61,908 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yavin4
(35,924 posts)Let the man rest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(11,027 posts)It's not like he is seventy years old, is it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)The voters have spoken.
Progressives didn't do well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yavin4
(35,924 posts)We are in a different world since Jan.-Feb. 2020, and we will be in a far worse world in Jan. 2021. Extreme times call for bold actions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)That's one view.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CanonRay
(14,787 posts)He's inheriting a hollowed out government. Plus the GOP will be blaming him on January 22nd
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yavin4
(35,924 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turbineguy
(38,268 posts)is my Dream Team.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(17,276 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(48,699 posts)We decided that we want moderate Biden, not "progressive" Sanders nor Warren.
Warren should not be a heart beat away from the president via a back door.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marble falls
(61,908 posts)Personally I'm hope Warren can stay in the Senate where she kicks ass on the banking committee maybe she can disinfect Moscow's Mitch's speaker's seat?
We need to show how dynamic we can be.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FailureToCommunicate
(14,310 posts)There are a good number of VP choices for Biden to look over (or that aren't Senators from states with a Republican governor.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(17,276 posts)The dems have veto proof control of the legislature. They will do what they did with dukakis. It will go to special election, and as long as we don't run the same failed candidate again we will keep the seat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FailureToCommunicate
(14,310 posts)Besides, many other candidates for VP without Warren's risk for the seat.
P.S. Sorry about Brady. Talk about bad timing. Maybe he should become a spokesperson for flu protocols? Guys would actually listen to HIS advice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(17,276 posts)He is a friend and supporter of trump in addition to being a cheat and general asswipe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FailureToCommunicate
(14,310 posts)But, yeah, to heck with him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pinkstarburst
(1,537 posts)than Elizabeth Warren. Biden/Warren would be an unbeatable ticket and would appeal to both progressive and moderate voters. We need everyone to vote in November. Not just the middle of the party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Actually, we have many qualified candidates for VP.
Too early to settle on one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Raggaemon
(68 posts)Jim Clyburns heartfelt endorsement was seismic, typically endorsements don't carry as much weight in the grand scheme of elections, something unprecedented happened after Clyburn's endorsement that will be used in future studies.
As much as I appreciate senator Warren for the work she does, she has a BIG negative, it was her inability to gain traction with black voters, particularly black women voters.
There's an undeniable truth, it's that the "heart & soul" of the democratic party is it's black women voters, no other democratic voter constituency is more reliable. It would seem to me that by choosing senator Warren, Biden could risk alienating black voters, who without them he would have been written off had it not been for an endorsement for the ages.
I don't mean to suggest that Biden simply choose a black woman, I mean that he be very deliberate looking over the best qualified candidates to choose from, but to keep in mind that to reach the WH he can't get there without the Heart & Soul taking him there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)She would make a great VP but I think he will go for someone younger.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
solara
(3,869 posts)Senate Majority Leader when he loses everything. That's my hope.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,250 posts)We already know that Republicans do their best to suppress the vote. My biggest fear is that Trump will use this health emergency as an excuse to take even more steps to suppress the vote so that he can stay in power.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
is my fear too. I just can't get too excited even though I am happy Biden is in the seat as a candidate.I just have to hold my peace for now until this mess is over the hump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dweller
(24,806 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StevieM
(10,535 posts)But I hope Biden goes with her. She is exactly the kind of person that we need right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dweller
(24,806 posts)start somewhere
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mikelgb
(6,021 posts)Simone Sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pattyloutwo
(402 posts)And heavy lifting of drafting legislation - yes! We need Warren. Im glad Joe knows that about her and I hope he goes with it. I also think Obama would recommend Warren as the pick.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NBachers
(18,081 posts)One less Democratic senator, replaced by a Republican one, is not acceptable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(34,269 posts)and know what needs to be done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(29,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(48,699 posts)And her qualifications are?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,850 posts)"Progressive" policies will required a Senate willing to pass the legislation. I think we forget that the Dems in the Senate are fairly centrist if we're using the new definition of "progressive".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yavin4
(35,924 posts)If we're talking a rising stock market, lowering unemployment, rising wages, yes, sure, Centrism works.
But that's not the world that Biden is walking in to. That world will be in smoldering ruins. The last thing that you want to do is balance the budget and cut spending when the house is charred ruin.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(48,699 posts)We see nothing wrong in him being "pulled to the center." And, yes, budget will be the top issue.
Oh, in case you forgot, moderates flipped the House last year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yavin4
(35,924 posts)This virus is causing a global economic disruption and massive displacement. The world that we knew five months ago is gone. Everything has changed. Things that we have taken for granted may no longer be there. For example, our healthcare work force may be overwhelmed, and that will cause cascading health issues. Emergency services for other maladies may be unavailable.
Our educational system may be in chaos as the normal education matriculation has been disrupted. Entire industries may go under. There is already massive unemployment which then means massive defaults on loans.
So, i need you to understand that the old politics are gone. We are in a crazy new world, and the U.S. budget is the very last thing that we need to be worried about. The very last thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden