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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:37 PM Mar 2020

Sanders Calls For $2,000 Per Month In Coronavirus Financial Aid, Plus Temporary Medicare For All

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders one-upped Treasury Secretary Mnuchin and President Trump's plan to offer a $1,000 financial aid package to Americans to stabilize the economy during the coronavirus outbreak by suggesting a $2,000 per month payout. He also called for expanding Medicare to cover all coronavirus-related medical bills.

Sanders acknowledged that it will cost "an unprecedented amount of money," but "this unprecedented moment, this will require an unprecedented amount of money.”

“In this moment of crisis it is imperative that we stand together,” Sanders said Tuesday evening in a live-streamed speech.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/17/sanders_calls_for_2000_per_month_per_household_in_coronavirs_financial_aid.html


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Sanders Calls For $2,000 Per Month In Coronavirus Financial Aid, Plus Temporary Medicare For All (Original Post) BeckyDem Mar 2020 OP
Coronavirus fears lead to Americans demanding government intervention In health care BeckyDem Mar 2020 #1
Ana Kasparian is a TYT hack/shill & a Cenk bootlick, she is the Tomi Lahren of the regressive left, Celerity Mar 2020 #28
They're democrats who want Medicare for All. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #42
'regressive left' has a multiplicity of definitions, in this case it fits TYT perfectly nt Celerity Mar 2020 #43
uh huh. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #44
hey, if you want to give a full-throated defence of TYT and Cenk and JD, by all means, toss up an OP Celerity Mar 2020 #45
They're democrats that support Medicare for All. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #46
Ana Kasparian? Seriously? Galraedia Mar 2020 #36
The workers of this nation must be taken care of during this crisis. I stand with @UNITEHERE workers BeckyDem Mar 2020 #2
the evil billionaire mark cuban is already doing this nt msongs Mar 2020 #4
There's a word for how he works it, just not a nice word, but do cheer him on. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #6
Volunteer work is so evil. MyNameGoesHere Mar 2020 #8
Incredible. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #10
Is that the word you couldn't say? MyNameGoesHere Mar 2020 #12
No. There are rules here, so. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #13
The rules apply to bashing MyNameGoesHere Mar 2020 #18
Nothing like depending on a billionaire for financial aid Merlot Mar 2020 #33
If one wants to tax billionaires to fund pie-in-the-sky programs NCProgressive Mar 2020 #37
At least, Cuban accomplishes things...how much chance that Sanders get $2000 a month? Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #47
yes we can cancel his F35 program and use the money for medical help and relief nt msongs Mar 2020 #3
Not a bad idea. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #5
+1 . Me too. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #7
Me three...it is about time we caught up to the rest of the developed world KSNY Mar 2020 #9
Yes! BeckyDem Mar 2020 #11
Did He Get It, Ma'am? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #14
According to you. What he doesn't achieve can be seen in the opposition within the Democratic Party. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #17
Was $2000 A Month Voted Out Of The Senate, Ma'am? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #20
Futile? As long as Democrats don't share and work for the same goals/legislation aka BeckyDem Mar 2020 #21
The Answer Is No, Then, Ma'am? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #26
Back at ya regarding attitude. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #30
I Like Professor Warren, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #35
Well said... comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #40
I disagree and I offer the 2020 primary as evidence...if his ideas were so powerful, he would Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #49
sanders style of governing is not effective Gothmog Mar 2020 #38
sanders lacks support from Senate Democrats to pass his medicare for all plan Gothmog Mar 2020 #39
Why should we support MFA? Many of us think a 21st century approach is needed. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #48
Medicare Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #51
K&R mvd Mar 2020 #15
Pelosi? TwilightZone Mar 2020 #25
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #32
And a 🎈 balloon! robbedvoter Mar 2020 #16
Why Does It Have to Be Medicare For All? Medicaid Is a Better Program to Provide The Coverage Indykatie Mar 2020 #19
Medicaid is a great program. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #22
Oh the voice of sanity!!! Thank you Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #23
Medicaid is great but... parhelion Mar 2020 #41
Yes, Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #50
I support Medicaid for All DAMANgoldberg Mar 2020 #24
The tests are free if billed through your insurance ,Medicaid ,or Medicare a show had on a place lunasun Mar 2020 #27
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #29
My pleasure. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #31
Bernie is right. zentrum Mar 2020 #34
And once again, Bernie Sanders calls for something that cannot be passed MineralMan Mar 2020 #52
 

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
1. Coronavirus fears lead to Americans demanding government intervention In health care
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:43 PM
Mar 2020

By Ana Kasparian, opinion contributor — 03/15/20 08:00 PM EDT

The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill

As we find ourselves in the midst of a terrifying pandemic — which already claimed the lives of thousands across the globe and severely crippled financial markets — members of Congress scramble to offer Americans some degree of economic relief.

The "New York Times" listed all the ways in which House Speaker Nancy Pelosi hopes to stimulate an economy and help those who are most vulnerable to the spread of COVID-19:

“The legislation...will include enhanced unemployment benefits, free virus testing, aid for food assistance programs and federal funds for Medicaid. The package also ensures 14 days of paid sick leave, as well as tax credits to help small — and medium-size businesses fulfill that mandate.”

It’s fascinating to see the same lawmakers who vociferously attacked single-payer health care as “too expensive” advocate for billions of dollars in emergency funding. That’s the way we do things here in the United States. We ignore wounds until they become so infected that the government ends up spending astronomical amounts to stop them from killing us. But what if we treated the wound at the first sign of bleeding?

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/487687-coronavirus-fears-lead-to-americans-demanding-government-intervention-in

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Celerity

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28. Ana Kasparian is a TYT hack/shill & a Cenk bootlick, she is the Tomi Lahren of the regressive left,
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:08 PM
Mar 2020

although Krystal Ball is making a dash for her crown.

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BeckyDem

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42. They're democrats who want Medicare for All.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 07:06 AM
Mar 2020

Never heard of regressive left, sounds like a convoluted term.

Regressive left" (also formulated as "regressive liberals" and "regressive leftists) is a neologism and political epithet, used to describe a section of left-wing politics who are accused of holding views, such as tolerating Islamism[1] or opposition to free speech,[2] that conflict with liberal principles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regressive_left

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Celerity

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43. 'regressive left' has a multiplicity of definitions, in this case it fits TYT perfectly nt
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 07:11 AM
Mar 2020
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Celerity

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45. hey, if you want to give a full-throated defence of TYT and Cenk and JD, by all means, toss up an OP
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 07:15 AM
Mar 2020

I will absolutely not stand in your way at all, not that my opinion matters at all, nor do I have ANY control over what other posters do or do not do.

cheers

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BeckyDem

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46. They're democrats that support Medicare for All.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 07:17 AM
Mar 2020

That's it.

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Galraedia

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36. Ana Kasparian? Seriously?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:47 PM
Mar 2020

I don't take anything The Young Turks say seriously. They're not journalists, they're Youtube reactionists that engage in false reporting, Russian talking points, and pro-Bernie propaganda.

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BeckyDem

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2. The workers of this nation must be taken care of during this crisis. I stand with @UNITEHERE workers
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 04:50 PM
Mar 2020
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msongs

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4. the evil billionaire mark cuban is already doing this nt
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:03 PM
Mar 2020
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BeckyDem

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6. There's a word for how he works it, just not a nice word, but do cheer him on.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:09 PM
Mar 2020
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MyNameGoesHere

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8. Volunteer work is so evil.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:12 PM
Mar 2020
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MyNameGoesHere

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12. Is that the word you couldn't say?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:16 PM
Mar 2020
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BeckyDem

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13. No. There are rules here, so.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020
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MyNameGoesHere

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18. The rules apply to bashing
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:22 PM
Mar 2020

True and loyal Democrat's like Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. Lifelong keeper of the flame of the Democratic Party.

No rule against bashing non-democrats and others.

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Merlot

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33. Nothing like depending on a billionaire for financial aid
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:22 PM
Mar 2020

To bad Cuban doesn't own ALL the stadiums, then this might have an impact. Right now it comes off as "who has the bestest boss?"

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NCProgressive

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37. If one wants to tax billionaires to fund pie-in-the-sky programs
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:27 PM
Mar 2020

isn't that "depending on billionaires"?

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Demsrule86

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47. At least, Cuban accomplishes things...how much chance that Sanders get $2000 a month?
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 07:20 AM
Mar 2020

Yang came up with this...and Romney of all people suggested sending money directly to Americans some weeks ago...so count me unimpressed.

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msongs

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3. yes we can cancel his F35 program and use the money for medical help and relief nt
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:02 PM
Mar 2020
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Turin_C3PO

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5. Not a bad idea.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:06 PM
Mar 2020

I hope Congress passes something that actually helps average Americans and not just the large companies.

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KSNY

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9. Me three...it is about time we caught up to the rest of the developed world
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:14 PM
Mar 2020
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The Magistrate

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14. Did He Get It, Ma'am?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020

That really is the question, in matters of legislation and government. What someone says is of little importance. What he achieves is important.

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BeckyDem

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17. According to you. What he doesn't achieve can be seen in the opposition within the Democratic Party.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:21 PM
Mar 2020
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The Magistrate

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20. Was $2000 A Month Voted Out Of The Senate, Ma'am?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:30 PM
Mar 2020

That was my question. If the answer is no, then to put it bluntly, Sanders has simply run his mouth once more. There is no reason anyone should care, or even notice. Attaching importance to such futile posturing betrays a lack of sense and serious intent. You may forgive those who do not see destruction of the 'Democratic Party Establishment' as a goal devoutly to be wished for failing to see as any achievement attacks on the center-left coalition which is the only mass vehicle available to our people for checking the worst excesses of rightist reaction and obscurantism.

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BeckyDem

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21. Futile? As long as Democrats don't share and work for the same goals/legislation aka
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:37 PM
Mar 2020

Medicare for All, it is but one. I do not forgive anything for those who oppose it. I support those like Warren who join the fight and live and work to make it a reality.

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The Magistrate

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26. The Answer Is No, Then, Ma'am?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:58 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders might try sharing goals with others, and working with them as routine behavior. It would likely achieve more for people than his usual course of attacking the 'Democratic Establishment' as interchangeable with Republicans at their worst. It is obvious to any onlooker Sanders directs much more of his formidable stocks of bile at Democrats than at Republicans. In many instances these Democrats, while perhaps more towards the center than Sanders, are far from actually being on the right, and in fact are regarded by the right as double-dyed leftists. It is an unfortunate fact that progress for our society and succor for its unfortunate and overworked has enemies on the left as well as on the right. It would be better if all fire from the left could be turned onto the right, but so long the man who postures as the leading leftist in the Senate insists on taking the 'Democratic Establishment' as his chief target, that cannot happen.

"Your attitude is noticed! Oh yes, it is noticed!"

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BeckyDem

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30. Back at ya regarding attitude.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:20 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders has the advantage as does Warren for representing policy by large measures that Americans, not merely Democrats support. There is no denying it, except for the willful to rationalize away. I will never be in that camp.

Have a great evening.

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The Magistrate

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35. I Like Professor Warren, Ma'am
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:29 PM
Mar 2020

She was my preferred candidate, and I believe would be a great President. She has demonstrated the ability to actually get significant reform through an inhospitable Congress. She has the ability to make complicated matters comprehensible to people who have little or no background for the subject. If anyone could make a case for having been 'shut out by the establishment', it is Professor Warren. Sanders is indulged precisely because he is a futile bag of wind, in terms of measurable achievement. In comparison to her, Sanders is a little boy running alongside a locomotive crowing 'Choo-Choo-Choo!'

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Demsrule86

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49. I disagree and I offer the 2020 primary as evidence...if his ideas were so powerful, he would
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 07:24 AM
Mar 2020

have been seen as electable and he wasn't. He lost badly.

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Gothmog

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38. sanders style of governing is not effective
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:53 PM
Mar 2020

As noted, sanders wanting something is nice but he needs to get other members of the party and Congress to buy in which is something that sanders has been weak on. sanders has zero significant legislative accomplishments in the real world because many of his suggestions are ignored and no one really buys the concept of a magical voter revolution that will force the GOP to be reasonable https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/18/give-bernie-sanders-his-due/

I’ve been critical of Sanders, even as I was sympathetic to most of his ideas. His theory of governing is grossly inadequate: He had a long slate of plans that would require sweeping legislation, but an almost absurd answer on how any of it would pass Congress. He said his grass-roots movement would be so powerful that it would force even Republicans — even Mitch McConnell! — to vote for programs like Medicare-for-all and free college, measures they find utterly abhorrent.

I suspect that Sanders always understood how ridiculous that idea was but nevertheless decided that repeating it was necessary to avoid compromising his position before he ever took office, and to keep popular mobilization at the center of his political project.

It will be interesting to see if sanders can get other Democrats to buy into his plan. Without the support of other Democrats, sanders plan will go no where
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Gothmog

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39. sanders lacks support from Senate Democrats to pass his medicare for all plan
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 10:58 PM
Mar 2020
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Demsrule86

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48. Why should we support MFA? Many of us think a 21st century approach is needed.
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 07:22 AM
Mar 2020

And that Medicare needs improvement.

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Turin_C3PO

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51. Medicare
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 08:17 AM
Mar 2020

shouldn’t be the program to use for single payer, it should be Medicaid. It covers all drugs free of charge, all other medical expenses free of charge, and let’s you use the doctor you choose. It’s really great, I’ve had it for four years, thanks to President Barack Obama and New Mexico for expanding Medicaid. If I had my way, I’d let everyone have Medicaid who wanted it.

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mvd

(65,399 posts)
15. K&R
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:18 PM
Mar 2020

I implore Pelosi to not hold up the payments to each American. That would look terrible.

More needs to be done, though. Mandatory sick leave, unemployment help, and foreclosure halting among other things.

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TwilightZone

(28,356 posts)
25. Pelosi?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:56 PM
Mar 2020

You think Pelosi is the one holding these bills up? You're looking on the wrong side of the aisle.

Never miss an opportunity to take a shot at Pelosi, I guess.

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Indykatie

(3,850 posts)
19. Why Does It Have to Be Medicare For All? Medicaid Is a Better Program to Provide The Coverage
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:29 PM
Mar 2020

Medicaid has $0 dollar cost share for patients unlike Medicare. Also, the Medicare program's provider network is not suitable for children a fact that is rarely talked about with the M4All proponents. Additionally Medicaid has better pricing for services. I'm surprised no one is suggesting an income cap for those getting the cash payment. If we capped it to folks making less than $100K or $?? we could afford to give those at the lower income levels more than a $1000 or to extend it beyond a one time payment.

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Turin_C3PO

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22. Medicaid is a great program.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:45 PM
Mar 2020

Thanks to Barack Obama, I’m insured under Medicaid. If I had a magic wand, I’d give everyone in the country Medicaid. No doctor’s bills, no prescription drug costs, I can basically choose my doctor, etc. It’s great!

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Thekaspervote

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23. Oh the voice of sanity!!! Thank you
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:49 PM
Mar 2020
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parhelion

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41. Medicaid is great but...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:42 PM
Mar 2020

It has extreme income requirements- at least here in PA. I have been on it for nearly two years since qualifying for SS disability due to chronic heart and back conditions. Come July, I automatically get moved to Medicare (it’s a requirement from SSDI) and face monthly costs between $144 (for minimal Part A) and $350 or more per month for Part C or whatever I need to cover the 20% of costs that Part A doesn’t cover for my yearly heart tests and multiple doctor’s visits, plus prescriptions and co-pays.
Why? Because PA’s maximum income for me to qualify for Medicaid is around $17k per year. I’m a 53 year old widower with a 15 year old daughter and I make a whopping $21k per year from SSDI. Needless to say, the quality of my life is going to take a significant downturn come July (and it ain’t exactly “caviar and champagne” now.) I had been under the impression that I’d be able to use Medicaid to cover the costs that Medicare won’t, but that’s not the case. Considering the medical costs that I am going to incur, I’d probably be better off to have SS pay me $5k less per year so I would still qualify for Medicaid - they won’t do that, of course. Just want to make it clear that Medicaid is great, but the income qualifications are horrendously restrictive. My elderly parents are even worse off, yet still don’t qualify for Medicaid.

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Turin_C3PO

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50. Yes,
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 08:14 AM
Mar 2020

I’m aware that currently there are income restrictions. But I still wish everyone could have it. It’s a great program.

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DAMANgoldberg

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24. I support Medicaid for All
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:53 PM
Mar 2020

I wonder if the Medicare for All tag is due to the "negative" connotation of Medicaid, you know, the poors? Those that can afford Medicare can get it and have fewer problems with it.

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lunasun

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27. The tests are free if billed through your insurance ,Medicaid ,or Medicare a show had on a place
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:06 PM
Mar 2020

that said the cost is still there if the person is self pay . I was like wait a sec that’s not what I thought they said about corona virus testing . I don’t know if it has changed since then but there are so many loopholes people can fall through when it’s not ‘all’ .
Then maybe be out of work and can’t pay anyway .

I know commie thoughts that sanders supports but I have good private insurance and think it’s the way to go at least for this crisis if people can not stomach it permantly

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Uncle Joe

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29. Kicked and recommended.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:10 PM
Mar 2020

Thanks for the thread BeckyDem.

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MineralMan

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52. And once again, Bernie Sanders calls for something that cannot be passed
Thu Mar 19, 2020, 09:40 AM
Mar 2020

through Congress. And once again, Sanders will be ignored in the Senate, which will pass some bill that can be passed.

This is why Bernie Sanders will not be the Democratic nominee. He continually proposes things that cannot happen, and will not listen to anyone who tells him they cannot happen.

Realism is essential in a President. Bernie Sanders is, and never has been, a realist.

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