We may end up voting by mail...in the general who knows?

Called for mine and will make sure I have one before November.

Biden is not shooting himself in the foot. Not once has he insisted Sanders quit.

He did make an appeal to join together. The rest of the Democratic Party already has. All his rivals have backed him except one. Get united to beat that incompetent thug in the WhiteHouse!

must end. Sander didn't do what he could in 16 in the General...I don't see any difference this year yet...and if Sanders doesn't quit then what...there needs to be consequence for Sanders...committee, money ....maybe a primary in Vermont...a real one

That. I try to get news from reputable sources. Sorry, but I dislike both Twitter and Facebook. Think both should be taken down for the harm they do.

I post here because there are often really good posts among the others with no right wing lies.

Making up assertions out of thin air isn't a compelling argument.

They call that gas lighting with untruths.

increasing access to absentee voting, mail ins etc etc etc as are democratic party operatives in all the states

None of what the poster is asserting is coming from the Biden campaign.

Some people see things ...



Either way, they are stronger together and can't be bought!!
Jump on the Biden bandwagon and abandon the revolution!!

All along he'd been portraying Bernie as the victim of nefarious unseen forces, somehow conspiring to sabotage Sanders' rightful ascension to the presidency. Now, after Bernie's revolution has been rejected by rank and file Democrats, his complaint seems to be Sanders isn't being accorded the respect he's due. Apparently, Biden's conciliatory remarks in victory have not been enough; nothing short of Joe stepping aside and conceding the nomination to Bernie will do.

by the likes of Sirota, Turner, The Young Jerks, Susan Sarandon et al.

They feel that Bernie is entitled to the nomination.

So, Bernie never loses an election - he always gets screwed.

ridiculous post. We'll wait-------------

and join reality. You are always here to amplify something that is either obviously wrong or just made up.

It is unbelievable to me that you are not concerned with the General at this point...

people are asking for more information, like which Biden strategists are doing those things? Do you know the answers?

The comparison of Sanders stopping his campaign because the numbers clearly show that at this point, HE CAN'T WIN, to stopping the general election in November, is ludicrous. COVID-19 is not an issue in the primary. Sanders can't win.

To argue that we can't have an election in November BECAUSE of COVID-19 is nothing but pretzel logic to try to delay the turd's inevitable defeat.

I'll make my own homemade hazmat suit if necessary, but I WILL show up to vote.

Face mask
Plastic gloves
Clorox wipes
Hand sanitizer

I will NOT be all touchy feeley with anyone while waiting to vote, while in the voting booth, or on the way back to the car. Even if they are a goddamn hunk.

That should do it.

We CAN NOT allow them to use bogus logic to stop the removal of the turd from the people's toilet bowl.

We FLUSH, and we FLUSH WITH GUSTO, come November 3, 2020!!!

He has NO path to the nomination.

Did BS mean this or Not?

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Biden and his staff know there's a helluva lot of down ticket races that have to be voted on during this primary season. I'm more inclined to agree with the folks who think Biden and his people will be advocating and fighting for more mail in ballot options so everyone gets to have their chance to vote.

What would you consider a good argument for Sanders conceding?

Some examples of Dems with integrity. Harris, Beto, Buttigieg, Bloomberger, Klobuchar and others.

Baaaazinga!

give us some evidence, or it didn't happen.

It makes no sense, has no data supporting it, and is divisive as it gets.

truly awful.

A new era of readability will sweep your posts!

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But it will likely fall on deaf ears here...or else elicit negative reactions.

I could and do find fault with all of the folks we put up this time. One Dem will win with enough support to get around the suppression and I will support whoever it is as I stated. You are right about it eliciting negative responses and honestly it gets so bad that I don't even want to visit DU or Kos for example. A problem I didn't bother with, because as you said it would either be to deaf ears or be hammered, is the fact that the Democratic Party continually makes this plea to young people under 30 to "be involved and tell us what you want". Then when they do say "we want these kinds of things" the party and the old guard turn around and say "forget it but thanks for participating". Then we have to struggle to try to re-energize as many as we can to vote for what they had no enthusiasm for by reminding them how awful the alternatives are. I lived through it in the '60's with Vietnam, the draft etc. So many people forget or never really knew that the Democratic Party was not some bastion of assistance for people trying to end the draft or stop the war. A few to be sure were helpful but we had to fight both the GOP and the Democratic Party. That's the truth of things. Now having said all of this I have to say that I always have voted for Democrats. But I am realistic about how little or how much will actually change.

Faceb***? 4chan?

If you can't see why Joe Biden would be millions of miles better than trump in every single way, I don't think anyone can convince you to vote Blue.

Bernie promises the moon, but there's very little he can do via executive order. Did you really think he single-handedly could enact all these laws? There is a legislative process for everything. You need to find the votes and gulp, compromise sometimes to get the necessary votes.

Biden is the best, ONLY option for the change you are looking. May not be fast enough for you because you have been conditioned by Bernie for years that he can make all thse amazing (impossible?) changes by himself.

That was a lie. There is a process to pass laws and Bernie has not even shown he can get stuff passed. Look at his record.

It doesn't have to do with anything that you are claiming. Your concern is noted.

And not an unimportant one. He's like the guy who refuses to return the 2-hour reserve article everybody needs to get ready for the final, back in the days before digital reserves.

#returnthearticlenow

It is true Sanders should resign yesterday...and not putting it aside. And one of the reason he needs to resign is to get the general going now and that will make it harder to cancel the General than if it runs right up to it...and I would say that Sanders supporters online are 'shooting' the country but not in the foot...a more serious wound I think...let's hope it is not a mortal wound for our Republic.

Strategists", and not only have failed to get a response, but have observed the OP has seemed to disappear from a thread they started

Because of this it seems to me divisionary and flamebait

are the Biden strategists he's talking about.

That said, meeting at 10. We need to find better arguments to push BS out. Hail the establishment.

Sanders, yet again, has found himself in a position in the Democratic Primary where he has absolutely no path to winning the nomination, therefore, he should drop out. Staying in the race only hurts Democrats, the Democratic Party, and our chances in November. He is doing the same divisive shit again this primary that cost us the presidency in 2016.

First of all, EVIDENCE for any of these claims you're making. And from CREDIBLE sources that pass muster with people who aren't morons, lunatics, or both.

Second:

Contrary to your fevered delusions, Biden and his staff have ZERO input or control over the primary process. The DNC has ZERO input or control over the primary process.

Each state has its own laws and rules in place for what to do with that process, and they don't answer to candidates or political parties about it. They answer to those laws and the residents of their state. NOTHING AND NO ONE ELSE!

Furthermore, you cannot be so appallingly ignorant that you don't realize that there is more going on than the fricking Presidential primaries. States that haven't voted yet also have primaries for federal legislators (Congress reps and in some cases Senators), state legislators, and other statewide races, and numerous other down ticket races at the county or municipal level that need to be sorted out. Those races are important too--far more important than a sore loser grumpy old fool like BS. Are you trying to deny them their voice and their right to decide those things for themselves? To what end would YOU do that with these baseless assertions you're making?

For pity's sake, stop making everything about BS, and stop making up total bullshit on behalf of his losing campaign, rather than facing the reality of how he's never going to be the candidate, that it's those VOTERS whom BS and his supporters disdain who have said that they're just not into him, and how that will not change, no matter how many straws you grasp in desperation to make the impossible happen.

Each state will decide for themselves how they must deal with trying to give residents their Constitutional right to have a voice in the political process versus protecting them during an epidemic. These are tough decisions--wrenching decisions, even, for people who love their country and hold sacred the right to vote--and you are not helping when you pollute the process with ridiculous conspiracy theories to prop up a failed candidate and his failed campaign.

Back off and let the states sort these things out as best they can, given the circumstances they're dealing with.

No one officially associated with Biden's campaign has called for Bernie to drop out. Many of his supporters like me have but we're hardly part of the Biden campaign. I'm sick of the Media including Liberal friendly MSNBC positing this BS take about Bernie. I'm also sick of the Media accusing Dems of not being sufficiently praiseful or thankful to Bernie for all his work even as he and his campaign continue to attack the Dem party and the "establishment". If Hillary or Biden had made a case that they were going to win because they could excite young people to come out in droves the Media would be all over their failure as they should be. Yet they allow Bernie to basically go silent on this failures and his future plans about staying or leaving the race.

Tell you friends this particular train ain't going nowhere and to come up with a newer track to peddle down.

This is so season one.

Also at “Undecided”!

Or that Bernie staying in the race is based upon any real principle.

At this point, it is pure selfishness.

The foot thing reminded me.

Amateur trolls gotta troll...

Instead I am socially isolating.

The GE happens on one day.

But the primary has been going on a while. And since SC, it's been the Joe Biden show. The simple, mathematical fact is that a Bernie victory would now require an incredibly unlikely series of events.

These events are NOT comparable.

One is all the marbles.

The other wastes resources and risks lives to absolutely no purpose. Bernie's last hope was that Biden would collapse in the AZ debate. It didn't happen. It's over.

I was a supporter of Senator Sanders for President, until Joe told the gun nut off to his face.

Then I thought, Bernie and Warren are most effective in the Senate for policy change.

I hope Kamila get AG, she kicks butt.

Klobachar for VP. I loved her in the Supreme court hearings.

There is a place for all these awesome people. Let's build this country up, not bring eachother down.

It's quite a reasonable argument. There is a public health emergency worse than anything in a century. Primaries involve many people mingling and touching the same objects. If the outcome looks certain anyway (current odds: Biden 1/12, Hillary Clinton 25/1, Michelle Obama 68/1, Sanders 87/1), then keeping a dangerous process going is not worth it.

They cannot use that argument about November (current odds: Biden 23/20, Trump 21/20), which is universally acknowledged to be a tight race.

All odds at Betfair from https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics

Biden supporters in this forum such as yourself and others, on Twitter, as well as Biden surrogates and strategists are trying to say the same thing as you.

In the same way that there is political spin right now that Bernie is "forcing" people to go to primaries, it's going to be the same thing later with Biden vs Trump. Like this: "Reporters asked Biden if he'd be in favor of postponing the election until after the coronavirus outbreak is done and Biden said he wants to force people to the polls. This is especially bad for older people who blah blah blah..."

You are shooting yourself in the foot.

You are using a strawman argument (yes, something that really is an "invalid" argument): you have invented a make-believe person who says something stupid ("Biden said he wants to force people to the polls. This is especially bad for older people who blah blah blah...&quot , and then you pretend that you being able to imagine a stupid Republican is the equivalent of a telling argument in the hands of the Republicans.

I notice you are completely ignoring the reality that the general election is genuinely undecided, while the primary is acknowledged by all to be effectively over. Ignoring reality, and saying "nothing must ever be done that a stupid person could make a stupid, unconvincing, useless argument about" is no way to discuss, or organise, anything.

and I don't think you realise it, or what you wrote. It's a waste of space.

Nicely done.

Be nice to us or else.

I always thought to the victor goes the winning.

Bernie Sanders has lost the vote.
Majority wins. If we need to beg people who spent a lot of energy smearing their fellow candidates instead of trump, then it’s unlikely they are going to vote how we hope.

improving infrastructure?"

I didn't even see it, sir. But it smelled like...feet.

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