Democratic Primaries
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Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Here's an excerpt from The Rachel Maddow Show, 5 day short of a month ago:
http://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/rachel-maddow-show/2020-02-24-0]
Meanwhile, today was one of those days when the financial news, the stock
market news was big enough news that it jumped off the business pages and
became front-page news. Markets both in the United States and around the
world tanked today amid fears that the global spread of the coronavirus is
reaching epidemic excuse me reaching pandemic proportions.
So, apparently 5 days short of a month ago, so many people knew about the coronavirus that fears of this virus was causing the markets to tank, and Rachel Maddow was already referring to it as a "pandemic" instead of an epidemic.
Also:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-testing-specialrep/special-report-how-korea-trounced-u-s-in-race-to-test-people-for-coronavirus-idUSKBN2153BW]
Special Report: How Korea trounced U.S. in race to test people for coronavirus
...
A week after the Jan. 27 meeting, South Koreas CDC approved one companys diagnostic test. Another company soon followed. By the end of February, South Korea was making headlines around the world for its drive-through screening centers and ability to test thousands of people daily.
South Koreas swift action stands in stark contrast to what has transpired in the United States. Seven weeks after the train station meeting, the Koreans have tested well over 290,000 people and identified over 8,000 infections. New cases are falling off: Ninety-three were reported Wednesday, down from a daily peak of 909 two weeks earlier.
The United States, whose first case was detected the same day as South Koreas, is not even close to meeting demand for testing. About 60,000 tests have been run by public and private labs in a country of 330 million, federal officials said Tuesday.
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No one was talking about the virus a month ago? Hogwash!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)The tic has interesting features.
On one hand, since no one else is really real to the creature, if he is not thinking something, or aware of something, no one is, because there is no one but himself in the world.
On the other hand, it reveals the horrid hollow he is a shell of bluster enclosing, the awareness on some level he is, really, nobody. And so the word 'nobody' comes to stand for himself, replacing 'I' in the nearest the monster is capable of coming to confession of what he really is.
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BGBD
(3,282 posts)I first heard of a mysterious pneumonia cluster in Wuhan before Christmas and started recognizing it as something that could become a big deal in early January when we started seeing human to human transmission for sure. I because very concerned when I found out they were seeing asymptomatic transmission.
I remember a night in January when I couldn't sleep because it was very clear in my mind that too many people had fled Wuhan before they locked down. Given that there was asymptomatic transmission, and we had confirmed cases in the US already, it was likely spreading unseen already. Since we weren't testing anyone who didn't have travel history or contact with a known case we were not going to start catching community spread until somebody (or some cluster of people) became sick enough to prompt somebody to get testing done. I've been telling people for close to a month that they should assume it is already everywhere.
I have a basic understanding of epidemiology and an above average understanding of statistics. The President has people working for him who are world leading experts in both. There's no reason he shouldn't have known all of the things I just said were well within the margin to possible outcomes well before I did.
The known US cases as of right now is ~10,000. Given the geographic dispersion, lack of testing, and time the virus has been circulating unabated; I expect the actual number of cases is going to me orders of magnitude higher. I haven't tried to build a model or anything, and the confidence interval is going to be pretty big considering everything we don't know about the virus, but I wouldn't be surprised if somebody told me we had over a million cases in the US already. If we have less than 100K cases I would be absolutely shocked.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden