It's what NATO, the UN, and World War II were all about. For those of you who haven't a clue.

but some our military adventures are bullshit, like much of the Reagan’s Central American interference in the 80s and, of course, Bush II’s Iraq War.

which is really just reconstituted empire. We stripped European imperialism and substituted proxy states for economic development and loans.

But yeah, tin pot wars don't help us, especially when our leaders seemed to think the fall of the Berlin Wall would magically - Adam Smith invisible hand-style - usher in freedom and democracy everywhere with no effort.

The United States military being used to support Saudi Arabia, for instance. I find it really hard to look at our military support for Saudi Arabia as an effort in defense of democracy.

Good description. The word "grudging" reveals much. It suggests to me that her words of acceptance were just that: words and words only. Insincere. Scripted. Or, half-hearted. Knowing that's what is expected if she wants to continue to play the game.

All I'm saying is this: she hasn't convinced me.

Kind of like how Janet Reno was opposed to abortion, but decided that rule of law and our tradition of secular government is more important than religious belief.

I used to be really opposed to Gabbard.

Gabbard has put to bed any prospect of a third party run, and increased the pressure on Sanders. I'd take it even was credible evidence that she's a DARPA animatronic special project.