Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumTrump's approval going up should be a wake up call
This election will not be easy to win and where is Biden since Tuesday, he should controlling the messaging of the Democratic Party. Democrats should be running ads up and down the swing states about Trumps incompetent handling of the c-virus.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rorey
(8,513 posts)WTF is wrong with people????
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,229 posts)he went from a minus 11 to a plus 12 in net approval in a week
it is just one poll, but still, wtf
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213135131
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,555 posts)week ago he didn't take it seriously, now it "appears" he is taking it seriously.with his PR news conferences
From my perspective, approval is a very inaccurate and volatile term
Let's see an "approval" poll after the press conference yesterday?
It sure wasn't impressive, and he was contradicted by the FDA and members of the press, so I suspect the volatility of that approval will bounce right back down, especially as this progresses, and more people are impacted adversely\
Thanks for the poll
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,229 posts)Rump and Rethugs will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to gaslight and spin and manipulate this to their advantage. I can see the timing of the 'Trump cheques' (what the orange fucker and his legion of goons will spin them as) being planned out for maximum electoral impact down the road.
I am so, so worried about the Census. They can systematically fuck us for the next 10 years at a multiplicity of levels, including robbing us of vital House seats (and also going on another new round of gerrymandering via the state legislatures) and choking off monies flowing to the Blue states.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,555 posts)I suspect approval based on that would not be particularly flattering for him, especially since the FDA, press, and people on the front line contradicted quite a lot of things he was puffing up
The census is a very important issue, and I am very worried about that also
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(106,379 posts)People take the 10-second sound byte to heart and don't question.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,555 posts)political ads, but how to address the problem, and Biden has been talking about this
https://news.gallup.com/poll/296060/trump-job-approval-rating-slips.aspx
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,916 posts)universe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,555 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)An ABC News/Ipsos poll released Friday reports that 55 percent of respondents approve of Trump's management of the public health crisis, while 43 percent disapprove. The latest figures represent a boost in the president's rating from the previous iteration of the survey, published one week ago, which showed only 43 percent approval for Trump and 54 percent disapproval.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/20/poll-majority-of-americans-now-approve-of-trumps-coronavirus-management-138570
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,555 posts)the disaster of a press conference he gave yesterday.
A week ago his approval was down, because he wasn't taken it seriously in the press conference. A week later he took a more serious appearance, his approval goes up
Yesterday, he said one thing and was contradicted by the FDA, press, and the people on the front line.
Approval is a day by day measure in my view
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)Whether it holds up is a good question. Seems unlikely but we need to focus on the general I think and get the primary over with. There probably won't be a convention to speak of anyway so let's just start.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)This will be bad for Trump...and we could use right now if a certain Senator would end his campaign today. Here is the thing regardless of the cash payments , people are going to starve. The hourly at my husbands job who still show up for work everyday do not have a cushion...food banks are shut down. I don't think people understand that literally people will die of starvation or starvation related illnesses right now. Welcome to the second Great Depression...God help us.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(46,229 posts)well before his mini surge in that ABC poll. Some those responses were collected as much as 18 days ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ohiogal
(34,773 posts)All weve seen on the msm is Chumps ugly mug spewing lies day after day
Where is Biden, Pelosi, Schumer?? Obama?? Bloomberg ads?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)and giving long friendly press conferences where he only snarls at a few reporters. He's as clueless as ever but he's playing a fresh angle. I heard one yesterday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)If that incompetent SOB had been POTUS when Pearl Harbor happened he wouldn't have lifted a finger until the Japanese were in Denver and the Germans were in Pittsburgh.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)Like he keeps melting down and insulting his own experts, not to mention the reporters.
I think we've seen the end of the fireside chats for a while.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)but I pretty much just tune them out and play games or read posts while he's lying his ass off.
Pretty sure FDR woulda had my full attention back then, even if it was only over the radio.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(30,288 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Arkansas Granny
(31,831 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,555 posts)very inaccurate measure, since they can mean different things to different people
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,916 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(96,555 posts)press conference
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,916 posts)Hopefully the facts will come out and sink the piece of shit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,490 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)The evidence is out there that he played down warnings for weeks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vogon_Glory
(9,572 posts)Were still early in this crisis; I fear there is worse coming. As the multiple impacts of Orange Julius Insane Clown Posses multiple bad decisions come to pass, his approval rating is going to drop some more.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,490 posts)Of themselves, of others, of the circumstances asking "was there anything I could have done?" or "why did this have to happen?" etc
A bunch of the Trump deadheads will conclude it was punishment for their sins or maybe weird stuff you might imagine ignorant people could come up with. But some of them will find the truth. With quarantine and no jobs, these folks are going to have a lot of time on their hands to find out the truth of why their little girl's lungs are scared for life and why their doctor got sick with no protective equipment and the vaccine's Trump promoted to address this 'hoax' haven't appeared.
"If South Korea and the US had their first test case show up on the same day, why did the US lag so far behind the testing - which allowed it to spread more uncontrolled?"
The one thing that has held it together for Trump was the economy. I think we are headed for a much worse place than the great recession Obama faced. People are going to be miserable or worse and for a number of them, the buck will stop with Trump.
If Trump's approval drops from 43% to 38%, battleground states will be real hard to win.
His approval may rise beyond 43% short term, but when reality sets in, it won't stay there.
I think it will get worse for Trump than that. And when it starts to happen, some of the rats will abandon ship.
Trump will not hold an election, will throw a wrench in it or challenge it legally. He won't go quietly. So his fall in approval will only get us so far.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bucolic_frolic
(47,018 posts)Don't be alarmed by this, Americans always rally around a president in a crisis. Makes them feel safe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
videohead5
(2,433 posts)A republican poll only has Trump's approval rating at 47%. Has anyone looked at the internals of the poll?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baitball Blogger
(48,076 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)and declare the primaries over. We really need to get on with it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)nor can it resupply the one-third volume lost by the Dow. Nor can it recast his calling this a hoax two weeks ago.
This is called a Crisis Bounce. It's expected. May even last into next week... but he'll dip again.
Democrats are running ads about this.
What's with the 'mass hysteria?'
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
videohead5
(2,433 posts)This is one poll and I bet it oversampled Republicans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Prosper
(761 posts)booed off the stage. He is a very dangerous character that only has himself for concern. Impossible to believe but believe it, he is a formidable challenger.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)But the five-second sound bytes are friendly and warm. And he repeats them several times in case anyone misses them the first ten times.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mucifer
(24,841 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)I think Trump will get flattened and Joe is going to have a long, long row to hoe in January 2021.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
monmouth4
(10,141 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)Until then, I just want Trump to STFU and
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)Tea Party, Wall Street Journal & FOX News Applaud Trump's Command Economy - Attack Anti-Marxist Free-Market Democrats
Strange new world we live in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)We have empty schools, empty restaurants, empty theaters, empty auto factories, empty stores, empty casinos, empty bars, empty airliners and empty shelves.
Kinda seems appropriate since we have an empty suit for a POTUS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,830 posts)Since he hasn't dropped out of the race, why aren't you asking Sanders to do the same thing?
You can't have your cake & eat it too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 20, 2020, 04:20 PM - Edit history (1)
Since you've probably been way too busy totally fucking up this coronavirus thingy you ignored for so long you've likely not had much time to follow the stock market lately. So I thought I'd give you a real quick update just to let you know where you stand so you can see what an awesome job you're doing for everybody's 401Ks, since you used to remind everybody every day ad nauseam not very long ago before this Democratic hoax showed up at our doorstep.
When Obama illegally entered the White House (him not even being an American, after all) on Jan 20, 2009 the DJIA closed at 7949 that afternoon. The day you mercifully took the reins from the Worst President Ever the DJIA opened up at 19795. Let's do some real quick math, okay bud?
Jan 20, 2009 - 7949
Jan 20, 2017 - 19795
A 149% increase in 8 years, or an average of 18.6% return per year. Not too shabby, especially considering ol' Barack took over when Dubya's economy was in a total freefall and we were hemorrhaging about 700,000 jobs each and every month. Dubya says he got an MBA from Yale but he sure didn't know too much about economics. Anyway, I digress.
Today the DJIA just closed at 19174, so let's get the calculator out again.
Jan 20, 2017 - 19795
Mar 20, 2020 - 19174
Oops, that's a 3% drop from when you took over. Hooboy, I'll bet Obama beating you at the stock market and beating you BADLY really sticks in yer craw, don't it Donnie? You being a very stable genius and all, financial and otherwise.
But cheer up, Mr President. This 3% loss will probably look real good compared to where it's gonna be by the time that senile Sleepy Joe Biden boots you outta the Oval Office. Maybe you should tell all your wonderful charming kids to buy a lot of put options, huh? Or have they already? Wouldn't put it past 'em...they say the rotten apples don't fall too far from the tree. Good luck, Mr President...and God help the rest of us. Because you sure as hell won't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ooky
(9,588 posts)sense, it's probably not true. This has to be fake. It's a lie. Gallup published a poll the other day showing his approval had gone down to 44%. The stock market down 30+% and nobody can breath the air. 2 million new unemployment claims.
Job approvals don't suddenly shoot up under such circumstances. They just don't.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/903066/trumps-approval-rating-dips-amid-coronavirus-crisis
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)You should focus on getting the Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tube Man to realize hes been summarily defeated and needs to behave as such.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DarthDem
(5,364 posts)There's no chance that people think favorably of what's happening.
Not only that, but Biden has just announced that he will be doing "shadow" briefings each day pointing out the flaws in Mr. Trump's approach. So there goes the idea that he hasn't been around since Tuesday, or can't campaign, or whatever.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VMA131Marine
(4,650 posts)Over essentially the same period of time and has a larger sample.
The margin of error on the poll that has him at 55% approve is +/-5%
Its possible that people are also responding to the proposals for direct payments to help the offset the decline in the economy. If so, those approval gains will be short-lived beyond the last check, especially if the economy is still in the tank.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,147 posts)handling. Homework is essential.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Its normal and his overall approval didnt change much. Usually that goes up significantly during a crisis.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Gump's overall rating on 538 is at a predictably mediocre 43%
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rockfordfile
(8,731 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:29 PM - Edit history (1)
Trump's numbers aren't really doing anything
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided