Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWish it was Joe & not Bernie streaming a compelling Corona Virus Round table right now but its not.
What a missed real time opportunity to comfort to a lot of scared Americans and demonsrate leadership. This is the kind of confounding stuff that gives this ex-Warren supporter great pause about Joe. I'm voting for him. But come on, tweets are not enough at this unprecedented moment. Hate him or not. Spoiler or not. Just like Bernie said, he is winning the battle of ideas but not electability. It will be a long summer.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(69,980 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(17,276 posts)Oh, and he didn't miss any critical votes to do it either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...on Twitter thanking them, not the serious people at the "round table".
Have you followed what Biden has been doing this week, what he's been planning, what he's been communicating.
Speaking of missed real time opportunities, why hasn't Sanders been in Washington the last two days with all the other Senators?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zonkers
(5,865 posts)event you just referenced. And yeah, there were musical guests. Bernie will be back in in a bit I guess. It's viewable later. Bernie pointed out the ridiculousness of a measly 1000 check for every American in the face of the shitstorm that we now face.
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Mr.Bill
(24,743 posts)and the taxpayers are paying him for it.
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zonkers
(5,865 posts)What exactly did he miss by not being there? Was he casting a deciding vote or something?
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Mr.Bill
(24,743 posts)are going to vote on? How about some type of contribution to the conversation in the Senate? Like I said, that's his job.
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George II
(67,782 posts)....responses the crisis.
Instead he was in Vermont criticizing the Democrats. Did you see the tweets from his account today?
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Demsrule86
(70,914 posts)Bernie...get out and stop helping Trump.
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Demsrule86
(70,914 posts)is over.
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NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)that is reasonable.
It is "everything sucks the way it is" or "give everyone a zillion dollars to make it right"
Reasonable bills get heard and passed. Why doesn't he form a group of cosponsors, hammer out legislation and present it?
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NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)except his devotees?
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W_HAMILTON
(8,372 posts)...instead of playing pretend talk show host on an internet variety show.
Once again, Sanders is demonstrating to the world why he has accomplished nothing for the American people despite three decades in Congress.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 20, 2020, 09:38 PM - Edit history (1)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(70,914 posts)You are going to have people starving...food banks are closed...and the layoff in Ohio are horrendous with the big 3 shutting down...get down to Washington and do your damn job. Senator.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(52,397 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(8,372 posts)...that has a midnight deadline set at being written up rather than holding a virtual townhall (with musical guests, for some damn reason) in Vermont about what government SHOULD be doing, but he's not.
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brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Shes been working on it all day and will be working more tonight.
As far as the Senate goes, I suspect Schumer will have more clout than Sanders will.
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justhanginon
(3,321 posts)as obviously not nearly enough.
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,720 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)Bernie is leaving democrats in the Senate to do the hard work of trying their damnedest to get the best deal for workers and poor people. The Senate has been in session. Bernie came in, voted, and bounced back to Vermont. Now is the time for Bernie to put that legislation where his mouth is. Do you think it's fun to negotiate with republicans? It's hard, grueling. Bernie bounced back to Vermont.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zonkers
(5,865 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)Senators are working their ass off through the weekend negotiating with republicans. As you can imagine that is grueling work! People who live check to check need help NOW! Bernie is in Vermont doing podcasts. Shameful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(70,914 posts)the Senate...and where in the world is Bernie? Why he is at home live streaming a 'round table on Coronavirus...pretending that he has information on the Corona virus...and not one medical professional is there...but the squad is there and why there is music! Bless his heart-so special. One wonders how many of the squad will remain in Congress after 2020...all are facing primaries.
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NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(70,914 posts)and try working his day job...the Senate. He needs to go yesterday...so over him.
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treestar
(82,383 posts)Has big power right now. If anything, Bernie has more as a senator. A round table is just talk, no more than a tweet.
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emmaverybo
(8,147 posts)show. Biden meanwhile developed a plan, has put together an advisory committee, and is talking with leading Dems. Of course he has some background and experience in this area.
Bernie should be doing his job.
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BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)He might think about dropping by the Senate and lending a hand. His grandstanding on social media is pointless. He could be putting his shoulder to the wheel making sure poor people get an even shake in the final bill working its way through Congress. That is his day job.
His bid for the Presidency is over. Its time for him to face that reality and turn his mind to his constituents back home.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(8,372 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(304,720 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,850 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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beastie boy
(11,027 posts)if Joe not Bernie live streams tomorrow, would that win him the battle of ideas, just like that?
A related question: when you are running for elected office, what signifies a victory in the battle of ideas if not electability?
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SunsetDreams2
(386 posts)Biden with insurmountable lead in delegates ...check
Bernie losing the Democratic Nomination ... check
Bernie refusing to concede ... check
Bernie running back to Washington ... check
Bernie hey look at me ... check
Senator Bernie... doing podcasts instead of working to you know actually do something ... check
Bernie...playing politics with Corona Virus to you know hopefully save his campaign
Much like you did with your OP trying to compare him to Joe Biden...as if Joe Biden is not doing anything important. Only Bernie.
Stop playing politics with this Corona Virus,
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Cha
(304,720 posts)of the last people I want to look at unless he's conceding? Check!
EXACTLY! StaySafe!
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SunsetDreams2
(386 posts)It doesnt take a Rocket scientist to see whats going on here. It reminds me of what happened late in the General of 2008 with someone running back to Washington to say hey look at me.
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NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)and demonstrably so.
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Gothmog
(153,882 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(70,914 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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elleng
(135,687 posts)it seems to me the Bernie round table event occurred yesterday/Sunday when folks here were moaning and groaning how DARE he not be @ the senate, OMG!
I'm glad they're both working, in their own ways.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to keep his name out there to a coterie of true believers, ie., Sanders' LW "base."
Skipping doing the job his state elected him to do while trying to keep his followers from straying may be leadership, but it's not good, responsible leadership.
Sanders is a U.S. senator. He should being USING that power to serve his nation as he's supposed to.
As for Sanders' ideas, come on. They've always been rejected, and they've been rejected yet again.
You shouldn't be surprised. Most people know we can once again have what we want and need under our current system. We need what we inherited to be managed properly again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)He supposedly represents Vermonters - instead hes doing his impression of Don Kirchners Midnight Special...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peregrine Took
(7,493 posts)Bernie is the man!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zonkers
(5,865 posts)him... but to continuously bash Bernie after all he has achieved in moving this country to the left. jeez. It's vile. Maybe you don't think so. Frankly, I thought it was a violation of DU policy to talk smack a against a democratic candidate. This is obviously not the case. BTW, the Bern Man not even my first choice as a candidate -- Warren was. I like Bernie. And I like Joe. But I don't like bullies. And I only switched my candidate preference to Bernie after I saw all the attacks on him. And from Duers I have seen on these boards for years. If y'all have a problem with Bernie not folding his tent and shutting the dhow down, then blame the DNC and their rules. Otherwise, respect the effen process. He is still technically a democratic candidate in contention for the nomination and has every right to stay in the race. I really have to think some of the heightened vitriol around here is due to the anxiety related to pandemic crisis.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)Shows no one cares about Sanders and what he does anymore.
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The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)What is the source for those numbers? I have seen similar figures a time or two, but have no idea how they are derived.
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NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)They poll DNS servers and various search engines for http (or https) requests to a site. With a subscription to sites like Alexa, ahrefs etc. one can even tell how much traffic came from PCs vs mobile devices. One can also get a breakdown of where the traffic came from - down to postal code granularity.
One can also get historical numbers going back as much as 3 years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Good to know they are solid.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kingofalldems
(39,189 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)his duties to try to keep his followers from straying. He should do both if he feels he must, but never just the one.
Sanders is technically on SIX committees, and if none of them miss his presence because he's very seldom there anyway, that's never an excuse for not showing up to work and doing what he was sent to the senate for .
I wonder, though, if Sanders was even welcome. He has a history of hijacking events, even some he was specifically asked not to attend, by pushing in front of the cameras to "bern" their message to him. And Ocasio at least has been distancing from him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)If he's an "ally" then he needs to start acting like one. If he cannot act like one, if he cannot get with the program... then we need to stop affording him certain honors, assignments, privileges. I think that's a perfectly reasonable condition to make. There's nothing wrong with setting minimum standards and having higher expectations.
"Not me. Us." Uh-huh. Yeah right. Just another quickly forgotten and abandoned bumper sticker slogan.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in the senate. Officially removing him from committees would seriously not be worth the bother. He has no power -- a result of his extremism and incompetence, is seldom there, and apparently spends most of his time when he is either silent or effectively insisting all the people who don't think "only he can fix it" are wrong. Tedious. Especially when he normally votes Democrat anyway with reelection in mind.
"Not me, us." It could be a slogan with the right spirit, just unfortunately adopted by someone incapable of leading "us."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vivienne235729
(3,717 posts)Joe may have things to do....like preparing for a general election and deciding/vetting who will be his veep and his cabinet. And quite honestly, OrangeAnus has NO ONE manning a million positions so Joe is going to have to jump in and hire nearly a whole damn government. That's a shit ton of work. And since it's just a clusterfuck, he'll need to do it pretty quickly too. Joe Biden will be held to a very different standard. So he is probably taking the time to get his ducks in a row.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zonkers
(5,865 posts)good rant. Jeez.
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Vivienne235729
(3,717 posts)As the presumptive nominee, he's STILL got a lot on his plate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,783 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden