Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumProgressives debate Sanders's future
Some progressives say the time has come for Sanders to throw in the towel so the nation can focus on addressing the health crisis and so Democrats can move on to the business of defeating President Trump in November.
Politics takes on a different aura when the nation is facing possibility of millions dying from a pandemic, so the ups and downs of politics seem remarkably trivial in comparison and I think thats taken some of the wind out of Bernies sails, said Robert Reich, who served as Labor secretary under former President Clinton.
Most people I talk with on the progressive side of the ledger, theyre of the view that its time to get on with this. We know Joe Biden is going to be the nominee. Weve got to get Trump out, and theres national emergency, so lets move along.
But some of Sanderss allies see reasons for him to stay in.
The Vermont senators supporters believe his presence in the race will keep the left engaged between now and the Democratic convention in July, potentially delivering additional down-ballot victories for progressives.
They believe Sanders should continue to act as a liberal counterbalance for Biden, keeping him sharp heading into the general election and giving him new opportunities to win over Sanderss supporters.
And they argue that Sanders is not attacking Biden or doing anything that would harm him ahead of his expected general election match-up with Trump.
Sen. Sanders can run an ideas-focused and positive race, and hes actually much better at that than he is at drawing contrasts anyway, said Neil Sroka, a progressive strategist with Democracy for America, which has endorsed Sanders.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/488525-progressives-debate-sanders-future
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(34,666 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's way past time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bluethroughu
(5,781 posts)He can build his ideas into the policy first hand!
We need Bernie now, more than ever in the Senate!
Let's take this opportunity to build the country, we've been waiting for.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)A man who will not compromise cannot have a voice there.
A vote he has, and hopefully he will be present to cast it when the work of hammering out something that can pass the Senate and meet Speaker Pelosi's approval is done.
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bluethroughu
(5,781 posts)So are you implying they have no voice, that I have no voice because I agree with his policies.
Okay, your opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,467 posts)can't find common ground with his colleagues to achieve a positive goal. It's always his way or no way so nobody will work with him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)No one in the Senate asks themselves, what does Sanders think of this? He has no weight in the complex negotiations which take place while important legislation is shaped prior to reaching the floor for a vote yea or nay. His impotence there is his choice, not a law of nature. Though effectiveness may require him to make choices his nature is incapable of. That, again, is his problem, and the problem of those who vote for him. Not mine. Nor does my pointing this fact out alter the situation one iota. You might as well say someone who remarks that it's raining causes water to fall from the sky.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bluethroughu
(5,781 posts)Regarding governments roll in peoples' lives, and its responsibility toward the citizens.
Bernie brought that conversation along with Elizabeth Warren to the people years ago. Policy has been shaped and created because of their voices.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)As old as government itself.
Between Professor Warren and Sanders there is no comparison at all. Professor Warren actually has achieved some reform, establishing an office dedicated to the protection of consumers from financial fraud. Sanders has no positive achievement to match that. Nor will he ever have.
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)at home in Vermont...trying to ...I don't even know...what. He should have conceded and should be at the Senate right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)Why is he in Vermont and not in DC...representing his voters?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(305,440 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,853 posts)Even though he lost in a landslide isn't it customary for the candidate to speak to his supporters that evening. Twice now Bernie has high tailed it back home without addressing his supporters on election night. This doesn't look good and comes off as tacky and uncaring.
As for him staying in the race that shouldn't surprise anyone. He's not capable of taking the high road and doing what's best for the party's nominee. Instead of trying to push Biden he should be in DC trying to influence the legislation that is being written right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)He should get out of the way and let Biden focus on Trump. And Sanders should focus on Trump, too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,147 posts)sake, but for the guy who will be running against Trump (and has the most experience in pandemic) to show how mistaken the administration is and to present sane plans. Biden is contacting leading Dems, has developed a sound proposal, and has an expert advisory in place now.
No distraction needed! Bernie still trying to suck all the air out of Bidens sails with his stupid concerts is just that.
Meanwhile his supporters are calling for Biden to die on Twitter. Still threatening to go for Trump and saying Biden is sundowning.
Let the sick ones become Trumpsters when Bernie bows out while the majority of actual concerned progressives join in working to oust Trump and to get the real medical facts out there.
Biden is a great vehicle for both.
Bernie is needed in the senate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)" T'were best done quickly."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Election campaigns are not about getting people to think.
Election campaigns are about getting people to rally into a tribal mass under one banner, in the greatest number possible. This is not an intellectual exercise, it is an emotional one. The voter must be brought to identify him or her self with the candidate. This is especially true in Presidential campaigns, where the person elected becomes the embodiment of the country, to which the voter is devoted and loyal, and draws a portion of his or her identity from.
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tritsofme
(18,540 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wyldwolf
(43,891 posts)"Progressives" need to debate the future of their movement. This taint will be on them for years to come.
I suggest Elizabeth Warren's approach. Revolution from within the system.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)We don't need engagements...we need to start divorcing Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden