Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders Weighs Three Options
Sen. Bernie Sanders has convened a series of weighty discussions about the future of his presidential campaign with his closest confidants, and at least three potential paths forward have come up in the private talks, the Washington Post reports.
One option that has been raised: keep the campaign technically active with a goal of winning votes and accumulating delegates to the July nominating convention, but forgo attack ads aimed at delegate leader Joe Biden. Another: stay in the race and aggressively compete for the nomination. A third choice: end the campaign.
https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/21/sanders-weighs-three-options/
more at:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanders-is-considering-several-options-as-he-ponders-his-campaigns-future/2020/03/21/0d75a93e-6b0c-11ea-b313-df458622c2cc_story.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
boston bean
(36,492 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sop
(11,216 posts)or they'll claim the process was rigged and concoct some conspiracy theory that Bernie was forced out by the corrupt, corporate DNC. Either way the result will be the same: many of them will pitch a fit and stay home, or they'll vote for some 3rd party loser.
Sanders created his band of Intransigent Implacables, now he has to finesse his way out of this situation without upsetting them. It's sort of like pulling the pin out of a hand grenade, then not knowing what to do with it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,482 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,562 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(15,922 posts)First choice, eh, not too bad but definitely not ideal. If he goes with the second choice, Im going to be pissed and lose whatever respect I ever had for him. Now in this time of crisis is not the time to attack our nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's such a no-brainer decision. The fact that any candidate would have trouble deciding on something so obvious is a good indicator as to what his (or her) administration would be like, and the likelihood that he (or she) really isn't ready or qualified to POTUS anyway.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,648 posts)the undecided here. I am mystified as to why they are. What is there to decide? Biden or trump is the choice now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)Some of them are pretty obvious about it. I suspect many of them will stay undecided until Sanders drops out and the options go away.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Andy823
(11,527 posts)are only here for one thing, stir things up and divide posters. Most of them are pretty obvious. Myself, I just ignore their posts!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)The undecided label is being used as a way to provide plausible deniability when launching unsubtle digs at the clear primary victor.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,853 posts)Many of the "undecided" are newer DU members and if you check their comment history it is usually clear who they are supporting or attacking. I always thought the % for candidate selection should only be based on those that have made a decision on a candidate. To pretend that 45% of DU is undecided is sheer folly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(7,020 posts)Clearly not Presidential behavior
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,648 posts)is to quit with dignity and support Biden. It's over Bernie. You'll just help trump if you stay in.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)is it his ego?
He never should have run this cycle. 2016 should have given him all the info he needed
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,822 posts)Its been obvious for sometime now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Paka
(2,760 posts)I resent anyone else pushing for him to drop out, disallowing me my vote. My vote is only one, but it counts as much as yours.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(34,666 posts)It isnt something unique to this election cycle or rigged.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sop
(11,216 posts)remaining candidate (Biden) after my first choice (Warren) dropped out. That's how the primary system works.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beastie boy
(11,148 posts)The question Bernie is facing now is whether he is willing to continue with a losing campaign that attacks the presumptive nominee at the expense of eroding his credibility with the voters and damaging his movement.
With all the quickly diminishing options Bernie has left, running against Biden no matter what seems to be most damaging to his credibility, his movement and his supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hay rick
(8,214 posts)Florida's ballots were finalized in late December to allow time for printing. Our primary was March 17. There were 16 names on the ballot, but only three active campaigns on the ballot by the time I turned in my ballot- after March 3's Super Tuesday's results. My first choice (Inslee) wasn't on the ballot. My second and third choices (Steyer and Warren) were on the ballot but had suspended their campaigns. So I voted for Joe. I helped organize for Bernie 4 years ago but can't support him now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)But in 2008 I wanted to vote for Biden and never got the chance. It happens.
You make the best choice that is available at the time and move on...you don't tear the party down just because your 1st choice didn't cut the mustard with states that preceded yours.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(7,020 posts)That's life. You don't screw over allies when you know there is no chance. Has happened to me many, many times. In fact, it happened to me a couple of times this cycle, as one or another of my early choices dropped out. The right thing is to be responsible, and Sanders only has one option for responsibility : join the team.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(28,833 posts)Welcome to every election ever. The vast, vast majority of the time, most candidates drop out before the last state has held its primary.
Neither Sanders nor Sanders supporters are unique in the regard. Welcome to reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)None of us can affect that in any way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(18,158 posts)Many people, if they wanted to "vote their conscience" without regard to real-life electoral consequences, would have to write-in themselves, because no one else is "pure" enough. But most of us recognize electoral reality and vote for the best person of the realistic options. Even when that "best" person falls far short of our ideals. For most of us, using our one vote to help stop the worse candidate(s) is sufficient.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(147,606 posts)against the nominee of our party. None. It is a selfish and a moronic thing to do. That's why we have primaries. We sort out everyone but the person who has the most voters. Then, we vote for our nominee and hope to defeat the Republican who is running.
Anyone who doesn't understand that process and who votes otherwise or for some useless third party candidate is not worth a second of my time or attention. Such a person is a fool of the first order.
I do not suffer fools in any way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(18,158 posts)Late primaries, I don't care.
For someone with an actual brain (meaning, they have thought this through carefully), I am not necessarily opposed to voting for a non-major candidate in a state where the result is a foregone conclusion. There can be valid strategic reasons for doing so (that I probably won't agree with, but if it is based on rational thinking, it is a "we disagree" rather than "they're an idiot" situation). However, and a BIG however, I do not abide the bullshit of actively campaigning against the Dem nominee while claiming to also be against the Republican candidate. At this point it is a binary situation. You support one, or you support the other. If someone lives in Alabama (solid R) and wants to show support for the Green Party, sure vote for them in November. Just don't go around saying how horrible Democrats are to family that live in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, etc. Because if they do, then I know they don't actually care about what the GP claims to be trying to achieve. (GP lost me at "not a dime's worth of difference" in 2000. But some people still don't get it, and need to learn if for themselves.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(57,601 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)and those that vote mickey mouse GRRRRR
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(8,405 posts)But this primary is over and Sanders has to recognize that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)Donald Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(8,496 posts)...THAT was what they came up with?
I mean, no shit, Sherlock. Not real assuring that you needed to have "weighty discussions" to figure that one out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(57,601 posts)egomaniac." After the shellackings he's taken it's a no-brainer decision that should've been made last Wed.quit already.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Andy823
(11,527 posts)when he said the main goal is to "BEAT TRUMP" there should be no doubt about it, he needs to "end the campaign!
We don't need to continue playing games, we need to unite and take on trump.
What I think we need is for Warren to come out and endorse Joe, and then maybe Bernie would understand what he must do!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,268 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BidenBacker
(1,089 posts)1) End your campaign
2) Suspend your campaign
3) Stop your campaign
Pick one, Bernie. Your choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,703 posts)He's not going to pull the plug unless he has to. So it really comes down to the Senate or the DNC rapping his knuckles, or threatening to. Schumer holds the cards here. I hope he plays them, and soon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)...who ran for president 5 times (once from prison) and never accepted the notion of incremental progress. No compromise for him. Everything or nothing. (Heard this on NPR's Throughline podcast.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(71,023 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,202 posts)But I'm still voting for him if he's on the GA mail-in ballot.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
projectiboga
(53 posts)Needs to turn to fighting the White House Grifter. First choice, stay in and stop attacking on our side. To be grim, we don't know who will even be alive come Summer and Fall.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MH1
(18,158 posts)and stops all negative campaigning against the Democratic Party, DNC, and likely Democratic nominee (Biden).
I have already had your grim thought.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)The problem is, he is running not so much for President as to overthrow the 'Democratic Establishment' and take over the wreckage he creates.
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
relayerbob
(7,020 posts)1 - Join the team
2 - Contribute to the chaos and demise of the USA
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,853 posts)His idea to stay in the race but not attack Biden is bull sh*t. His advocates would continue the barrage of attacks against Biden which is normally where attacks originate in political races. Him hanging around should hopefully convince the DNC and others that accommodating Bernie gets you nothing. He doesn't give a sh*t about what's best for the party. We need to begin treating him accordingly in all future decisions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Sanders needs to be told he ends his campaign, or he will be expelled from the caucus, stripped of any committee assignments, and told to caucus with McConnell if he doesn't like it. My personal inclination would be to do it anyway, once he has stood down, but wait till next year to inform the wretch of his fate.
"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,760 posts)Bernie has a history of attacking Democrats and his supporters are made of folks who have bought into his past attacks on the Democratic party. Bernie's progressive message has already been lost in the acrimony has built against the Democratic party. Bernie is going to stay in and his attacks on Biden's character will end up being the most visible part of his campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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The Velveteen Ocelot
(120,903 posts)Or, as my dear departed Dad would say, "Shit or get off the pot."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(52,770 posts)It's over, no matter what his ego makes him do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(10,823 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden