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sheshe2

(87,552 posts)
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 11:42 PM Mar 2020

Bernie Sanders wants to get rid of billionaires. All of them.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/politics/bernie-sanders-ultra-wealth-tax-billionaires/index.html

………………………………...

Welp, this is a Billionaire. I am loving him. He is trying to make us all safer and he will keep my niece safer as well. She is on the front line.

This is a Billionaire.

Eric Smidt

Born
Los Angeles, California, US
Occupation
Chairman & CEO Harbor Freight Tools
Net worth
US$3.1 billion (2018)[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Smidt

Today, TODAY he announced this:

Harbor Freight is donating their ENTIRE supply of PPE to hospitals:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213151585

Dear Harbor Freight Community,

As we’ve been following the news over the last few days, we’ve heard about the severe shortage of protective gear for hospitals, healthcare workers and first responders as the impact of COVID-19 is being felt across the country. America depends on these heroes every day and in the days ahead we will depend on them even more. At Harbor Freight, we want them to know that they can depend on us too.

So we’ve decided to donate our entire supply of the personal protective equipment items listed below to front line hospitals with 24 hour emergency rooms in the communities served by our stores.

• N95 Masks
• Face Shields
• 5 and 7 mil Nitrile Gloves
If you work at a hospital with a 24 hour emergency room in need of these items, please ask the office in charge of procurement at your hospital to click here so they can provide us with the information we’ll need to determine if we can make a donation. If you’re not with a hospital, but would like to give us the name of a hospital with a 24 hour emergency room in your community that might need our help, please email us at hospitalhelp@harborfreight.com, identify the hospital’s city and state in the subject line, and our team will follow-up.


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For hospitals we’re able to help, we’ll email them a voucher when the supplies are available for pick up at their local Harbor Freight Tools store.

Although we certainly won’t have enough of these supplies to fill everyone’s needs, we’re going to donate everything we’ve got. We also recognize that there are so many other critically important people responding to this crisis and that there is need everywhere. We’ve chosen to focus our efforts on hospitals with a 24 hour emergency room with the hope that we can help as many people as possible right now.

Thank you and God Bless,

Eric Smidt
Owner and Founder
Harbor Freight Tools



...................................

What are you doing to make us safer Senator? You are in VT and not in Washington where our Democrats are fighting tooth and nail to protect us any way they can. A billionaire is giving our front line workers protections so they can continue to save lives and not die for doing so. I applaud him.

PS...……...He started his career at the age of 17.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Bernie Sanders wants to get rid of billionaires. All of them. (Original Post) sheshe2 Mar 2020 OP
That is wonderful. murielm99 Mar 2020 #1
I have no issues with billionaires... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #6
i just want them to pay their fair share in taxes questionseverything Mar 2020 #29
The Man Is A Tiresome Loudmouth, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #2
You are correct, Sir. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #4
Quite so! NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #21
Looks lilke the Biillionaires with hearts of Gold are Cha Mar 2020 #3
I passed it on to my sister. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #5
Bernie demonizes. How else could he appear righteous? Not very original and means he can be emmaverybo Mar 2020 #7
I think some call it "othering" like creating a demon to be feared. littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #12
Well said. He "others" a lot. Seems a tactic almost--sets himself in opposition to "the other" and emmaverybo Mar 2020 #14
one wonders how much PPE bernie is donating. is he paying salaries of laid off arena workers too? msongs Mar 2020 #8
Lol. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #9
I know who I'd like to get rid of Skittles Mar 2020 #10
I am with ya on that, Skittles. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #11
With the market dropping almost 40% in a short time BidenBacker Mar 2020 #13
K'n'R ucrdem Mar 2020 #15
ucrdem... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #27
Here's a list of billionaires and their actions re: CV TwilightZone Mar 2020 #16
Looked over your list a little BidenBacker Mar 2020 #17
Mike Bloomberg is a billionaire, last week he gave $40 million toward... George II Mar 2020 #18
Thank you George. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #24
What about the owner of the Intercept Kerrycrat Mar 2020 #19
And Bloomberg is helping defeat tangerines. BS is home pondering his next divisive action. we can do it Mar 2020 #20
Lets talk numbers quakerboy Mar 2020 #22
You don't know that. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #25
Educated guess. quakerboy Mar 2020 #32
That would put him at the top of the food chain then wouldn't it? William769 Mar 2020 #23
Billionaires aside, strong progress could be made, if traitotrump & BS would just STFU! empedocles Mar 2020 #26
Bazinga. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #28
Sanders' hatred of billionaires was always silly NCProgressive Mar 2020 #30
Hey. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #31
Well, he should start by not saving the billionaire class from liberals. Hortensis Mar 2020 #33
 

murielm99

(31,443 posts)
1. That is wonderful.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:02 AM
Mar 2020

If Bloomberg helps us, that is great work by a billionaire as well.

My governor, JB Pritzker, is a billionaire. He is helping my state, and he is standing up to the orange madman.

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sheshe2

(87,552 posts)
6. I have no issues with billionaires...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:48 AM
Mar 2020

Many actually do good for us.

Yes, there is a huge income disparity, however to call them all evil is just not right.

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questionseverything

(10,157 posts)
29. i just want them to pay their fair share in taxes
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:07 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
2. The Man Is A Tiresome Loudmouth, Ma'am
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:05 AM
Mar 2020

Nobody cares what he wants, particularly since he does nothing of consequence. With the possible exception of aiding Trump by attaking the 'Democratic Establishment' wih might and main....




"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

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sheshe2

(87,552 posts)
4. You are correct, Sir.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:23 AM
Mar 2020

He talks the talk, yet never walked the walk. My Senator Elizabeth Warren accomplished more before she ever won her Senate seat. CFPB was her baby and she made it happen.

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Cha

(305,440 posts)
3. Looks lilke the Biillionaires with hearts of Gold are
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:07 AM
Mar 2020

doing more for the World than those who want to get rid of them.

Thanks, she.

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sheshe2

(87,552 posts)
5. I passed it on to my sister.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 12:26 AM
Mar 2020

She passed on to her hospital. She is retired, yet my niece works in ICU.

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emmaverybo

(8,147 posts)
7. Bernie demonizes. How else could he appear righteous? Not very original and means he can be
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:09 AM
Mar 2020

in a perpetual state of protest against what and whom he opposes while offering Zilch hope, optimism, elbow grease.

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littlemissmartypants

(25,505 posts)
12. I think some call it "othering" like creating a demon to be feared.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:36 AM
Mar 2020

It certainly doesn’t bring people together and nobody wins when we play the blame game. It makes me sad when there is so much need but little good will. I'm sad he seems to have lost most of his effectiveness. Becoming just a low pitched droning refrain void of any real effect or influence.

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emmaverybo

(8,147 posts)
14. Well said. He "others" a lot. Seems a tactic almost--sets himself in opposition to "the other" and
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:56 AM
Mar 2020

voila. Doesn’t have to do much else. Just rile up crowds against the other using the magic words, establishment, billionaire, DNC...True, he does offer policies but so joylessly, with such insistent anger.

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msongs

(70,178 posts)
8. one wonders how much PPE bernie is donating. is he paying salaries of laid off arena workers too?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:33 AM
Mar 2020
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Skittles

(159,374 posts)
10. I know who I'd like to get rid of
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:42 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(87,552 posts)
11. I am with ya on that, Skittles.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 01:47 AM
Mar 2020

Stay safe.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
13. With the market dropping almost 40% in a short time
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:13 AM
Mar 2020

seems to me that Trump is doing a helluva lot more than Sanders ever could to eliminate some billionaires. And the stock futures right now are looking like there will be a few less after today.

Generally speaking, Harbor Freight sells a lot of junk...low quality stuff that doesn't last very long. But it's great for those folks who don't have a lot of money or only need a specific tool to use once or twice before it breaks or falls apart. We have one in town and will have to drop in to buy something to show my appreciation for what they're doing...once it's safe to go back out in 3 weeks or 3 months.

For the sake of our healthcare workers, sure hope HF's PPE is better than most of their tools.

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ucrdem

(15,703 posts)
15. K'n'R
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:13 AM
Mar 2020

What a contrast!



Thanks sheshe!

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
17. Looked over your list a little
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:00 AM
Mar 2020

I question this dude's sanity sometimes...

Elon Musk: On Wednesday, March 18, Musk defied a sheriff’s order to “shelter-in-place” by keeping Tesla’s Fremont, California factory open, with employees being told the factory was “critical infrastructure.” After Tesla was confronted by the Alameda County Sheriff’s Department that same day, the factory cut its onsite staff from 10,000 to 2,500. On Wednesday evening, Musk, who has previously dismissed the coronavirus panic as “dumb,” tweeted that Tesla would “make ventilators if there is a shortage.” He added on Friday, March 20, that he thinks the ventilators “probably won’t be needed.” Musk has since talked to ventilator manufacturer Medtronic.

Worrying about coronavirus is "dumb"...uh, okay Elon. Same guy who came up with his idiotic submarine idea when those kids were trapped in a cave in Thailand and when they politely declined he went off on them...

https://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-musk-pedophile-twitter-fight-20180715-story.html

His erratic behavior has also raised a few eyebrows with NASA and the USAF...

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/07/air-force-is-looking-into-elon-musks-pot-smoking-source.html

Think he's spreading himself a little too thin running too many companies and his workload and stress gets to him. Got a coupla buddies and former workmates now at SpaceX and if they're as busy as they are then his schedule must be crushing.

Nice that all these rich folks are donating but IMO would be better for the government just to raise their taxes and put it where they thought it was best utilized. Not a big fan of relying on charity or the good will of a few individuals (some of them borderline batshit crazy like Musk) to decide where funds should go. Still better than nothing, I guess. But there are too many Carnegies and Rockefellers out there who think they can reap enormous wealth by whatever means including treating their workers like dirt and then clear their names by tossing a few bucks around to good causes.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
18. Mike Bloomberg is a billionaire, last week he gave $40 million toward...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:17 AM
Mar 2020

... solving this crisis, with a promise of a lot more. He's also given more than $5 billion to various good causes in recent years.

Elon Musk contributed millions of masks and hundreds of ventilators this week.

Other billionaires have been doing likewise.

They're not hunkered down in their living rooms complaining about others. They're DOING something to help.

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sheshe2

(87,552 posts)
24. Thank you George.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:05 PM
Mar 2020

There are good peeps out there. Donating and never asking for anything in exchange. They donate because they love their country and the people above profit or political gain.

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Kerrycrat

(159 posts)
19. What about the owner of the Intercept
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:19 AM
Mar 2020

A left wing progressive news source that is pretty obvious in their support of Bernie.

The owner of the publication is the founder of EBay I believe.

Or are the billionaires who agree with Bernie going to be the last to go?

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we can do it

(12,777 posts)
20. And Bloomberg is helping defeat tangerines. BS is home pondering his next divisive action.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 08:41 AM
Mar 2020
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quakerboy

(14,137 posts)
22. Lets talk numbers
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:44 PM
Mar 2020

Harbor freight apparently has 1000 stores. Id bet money at least half were bought out of the items in question before this decision was made. To come up with a number, maybe 20 boxes of 10 masks at each remaining store, plus enough to restock each store from distribution centers. 300,000 masks. I figure this is probably a generous estimate, given the way things have been sold out over the past couple weeks.

That would be one mask per $10,000 of his fortune.

I donated more PPE, as compared by means. Far more.

Its nice that Eric is doing this. Its impressive compared to the very low bar set by companies such as Hobby Lobby or Goodwill. But its not all that impressive when I compare it to the sacrifices and efforts I see daily among people of extremely modest means within my community as we fall into this disaster Trump shoved the country into.

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sheshe2

(87,552 posts)
25. You don't know that.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:30 PM
Mar 2020

You don't know his inventory or what else he can get his hands on.

You are dissing a man that is doing something to protect the lives of our caregivers. Everything helps. I see generosity, he did not need to do anything. I am appalled by your post.

He in fact is doing something that the 'resident of the US is refusing to do, keeping our care givers safe. I have a caregiver in my family. She works in the ICU. She has children that are dear to me, she brings it home then they to may suffer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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quakerboy

(14,137 posts)
32. Educated guess.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:54 PM
Mar 2020

Given that 3m, a main maker of the masks was apparently only able to donate 500k.. 300k seems like a generous estimate for a discount hardware chain. Especially given reports locally are that the store are still selling ppe to private parties, not holding them for donation. But even if it were somehow double, or even triple what I calculated.. It wouldnt change the basic math of the situation.

I am not dissing him. Im glad he is doing what he is doing. I just find it much more impressive when I see on my local face book group that a pair of disabled seniors on SSI are donating their stocks of PPE to the local hospital rather than keeping them for their own personal quite justified needs. The (in this case literal) widows pittance will always impress me more than a donation by a rich person, especially when the latter is in amounts that are pocket money for the rich person in question.

We need what everyone has to give. But I'm not going to give inflated high marks to billionaires who are doing what is for them comparatively equivalent having some pennies fall out of their pockets. Even at their best, they are not doing more than other people.

Its the People of this nation that will save us from this disaster Trump has shoved us into. Its your daughter and the rest of us in "essential" jobs that are throwing ourselves in the way of danger to make sure that people have the care and necessities that they need to try and survive this disease and the Trumpheaval surrounding it.

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William769

(55,830 posts)
23. That would put him at the top of the food chain then wouldn't it?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:47 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
26. Billionaires aside, strong progress could be made, if traitotrump & BS would just STFU!
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:45 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
30. Sanders' hatred of billionaires was always silly
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 10:39 PM
Mar 2020

He suffers from an extreme case of plutophobia and he riles up some like-minded supporters.

Memes like "no one should be a billionaire" make me

Many of his supporters don't understand the concept of "paper money" - most billionaires are billionaires because of the value of the stock they own in the companies they started. If they sold it all at once , it won't be worth even 30 cents on the dollar.

The stock market crash eliminated about 29% of the world's billionaires as the value of their stock dropped below $1 billion.

Silly

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Well, he should start by not saving the billionaire class from liberals.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:20 PM
Mar 2020

Surely he can't be so deluded that he doesn't know it was the Democrats our new kleptocrat class feared and that they used him to stop the Democrats from getting power?

AND that they've been trying to repeat that great victory in 2020?

Or can he?

Again, just what IS the truth about a person when his actions consistently sabotage what he claims to support?

It may be that Sanders literally cannot make the connection between his actions and their consequences. There are people like that, and they're not even all that uncommon.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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