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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:04 AM Mar 2020

The Problem with Presidential Primaries Is Fairly Simple. It's Disappointment.

However many candidates are part of the primary race, only one can end up with the nomination. The rest of the candidates do not become the nominee.

It's natural for people to prefer one candidate over another. We support who we support, as enthusiastically as we can. So, if our favorite doesn't become the nominee and has to drop out of the race, we are naturally disappointed.

But, here's the thing: The primary elections are about who can get the most votes from party members who take the time to vote in their state's primary or caucus. As the primary season goes on, we see which candidate is doing the best among however many candidates there are. That candidate accumulates more votes.

That should tell us something. We should pay attention. As the candidates who aren't doing so well decide to drop out, they often endorse another candidate who is doing better. When that happens, most of their supporters follow that endorsement, and we see the endorsed candidate do better in subsequent elections.

The problem is that some supporters of candidates who drop out or who do not do well as the campaign continues continue to be disappointed in the remaining choices and become disillusioned. All the while, it becomes clearer and clearer which candidate is most likely to get the nomination. Why? Because more people are voting for that candidate.

In the end, it will all be about votes, once a nominee is chosen in the primaries and at the convention. At that point, being disappointed has to give way to support for the candidate who has won the nomination by getting more votes than the remaining candidates. While disappointment is natural, it's important not to let it stand in the way of actually winning in the General Election.

We are at the point now in our somewhat interrupted primary campaign when it is down to just two candidates remaining. The one with less votes will probably end up dropping out before the convention, because the other one will clearly be the presumptive nominee. However, even if the nominee still has a competitor, there's the chance of even deeper disappointment among the supporters of the losing competitor. That's why the loser has a responsibility to actively and enthusiastically endorse the nominee.

It's not enough just to concede. That's because disappointment will continue unless the losing candidate offers a solid endorsement of the nominee. Disappointed people often do not vote in the general election, which can lead to a loss by the party's nominee.

That's why, when Bernie Sanders finally concedes to Joe Biden, he needs to endorse Biden enthusiastically and convincingly. Losing is not a real option in 2020. We need all hands on deck.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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The Problem with Presidential Primaries Is Fairly Simple. It's Disappointment. (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2020 OP
The problem on DU is the continuing endless stream of negativity that could cause division. n/t bluewater Mar 2020 #1
DU Has Approximately Zero Impact on Any Election. MineralMan Mar 2020 #4
And yet day after day some people feel compelled to post negative posts about other candidates. n/t bluewater Mar 2020 #6
Yes. And so? MineralMan Mar 2020 #7
And so, why the endless negativity? bluewater Mar 2020 #8
Endless? MineralMan Mar 2020 #9
Endless. bluewater Mar 2020 #10
During open forum at our January city council meeting Frances Mar 2020 #2
I'm wondering why Elizabeth Warren hasn't made an endorsement yet. George II Mar 2020 #3
I don't know, actually. MineralMan Mar 2020 #5
 

bluewater

(5,420 posts)
1. The problem on DU is the continuing endless stream of negativity that could cause division. n/t
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:13 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
4. DU Has Approximately Zero Impact on Any Election.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:20 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,420 posts)
6. And yet day after day some people feel compelled to post negative posts about other candidates. n/t
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:21 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
7. Yes. And so?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:24 AM
Mar 2020

Some candidates do things that lead to negative statement about them.

Some supporters take any mention of those things as some sort of bashing. That is not the case. Pointing out behaviors of current candidates is a valid thing to do. Calling candidatea to account for their behaviors is not bashing. It is simply calling them to account.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,420 posts)
8. And so, why the endless negativity?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:39 AM
Mar 2020

Of course those people making the endless stream of negative comments feel justified.

That does not make their comments necessarily accurate or, regardless of accuracy, productive.

What they do accomplish is creating division.

There is a reason why 49% of the DU'ers posting in the Primary forum are still undecided. And there are reasons why 14% of the posters continue to choose Sanders as their preferred candidate over Biden.

We all should respect our fellow DU-ers opinions in this and do our best to unite everyone behind who I consider to be our presumptive nominee, Joe Biden.

Endless streams of negative posts are, I feel, counter productive to this goal.

But, obviously, some people feel compelled to continue to make negative posts about candidates that will do nothing to change the eventual outcome of the primary process.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
9. Endless?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:40 AM
Mar 2020

I can tell you how that will end, and when. It will end when Bernie Sanders withdraws from the race and endorses Biden with some enthusiasm.

It will end immediately after that. In fact, I will congratulate him effusively for doing that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,420 posts)
10. Endless.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:41 AM
Mar 2020

Thanks for making my point so clearly.

Regardless of the fact that Joe Biden has an insurmountable lead and is in no danger of being over taken, regardless of the fact that that it's time to be rally everyone behind our presumptive nominee, regardless of the fact that we need to reach out to all Democrats who supported other candidates for what they feel were very valid reasons... some people will feel compelled to continue making counter productive negative posts about other candidates.

Enjoy your day.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Frances

(8,577 posts)
2. During open forum at our January city council meeting
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020

A man said that the council had discriminated against him because he was a Bernie/Trump supporter
I have no idea what caused the man to say that but it did make me think: what is a Bernie/Trump supporter and how many.are there?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. I'm wondering why Elizabeth Warren hasn't made an endorsement yet.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(147,334 posts)
5. I don't know, actually.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 11:21 AM
Mar 2020

She will, I'm sure, at some point. I doubt she will waste her endorsement, either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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