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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:38 PM Mar 2020

Sanders: "Stay away from me"





Annie Grayer

@AnnieGrayerCNN

Via @tedbarrettcnn on the Hill w/ @BernieSanders: when asked to explain how his absence from the Senate was consistent w/ his efforts to address the crisis, Sanders accused a reporter of standing too close to him:

"Stay away from me. There's CDC requirement. Please follow it.”
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Sanders: "Stay away from me" (Original Post) StarfishSaver Mar 2020 OP
So presidential mcar Mar 2020 #1
Not. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #20
All these people who looked at Bernie and saw a President BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #58
It's beyond comprehension for me. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #92
As a senior myself, I don't blame him for saying this. secondwind Mar 2020 #2
There's a way to say things StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #4
That's his specialty actually BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #5
Yes he Rebl2 Mar 2020 #63
I figured you'd get replies like this mcar Mar 2020 #86
Yes it is the way to say it. We need to be perfectly blunt about this. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #96
If this is such a problem for him that he has to bark "Stay away from me" at people in his midst StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #99
Yeah maybe a 6 day break from the media and the public ChubbyStar Mar 2020 #103
I do not blame him for wanting to be safe. I take issue with how abrupt and bossy he is. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #21
Condescending I believe the word is. Fla Dem Mar 2020 #44
Exactly. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #48
And not answering the question. nt spooky3 Mar 2020 #76
I guess that's pretty much a given any more. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #80
Me neither. Raven123 Mar 2020 #26
No doubt the evil DNC set up the whole thing to embarrass Sanders. Orrex Mar 2020 #3
DNC Chairman Perez should make him an offer BidenBacker Mar 2020 #8
Oh, you! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #23
That must be a pre-virus video BidenBacker Mar 2020 #31
I think you're right. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #34
No answer to the question either treestar Mar 2020 #6
I keep wondering whether he's got symptoms or a positive test. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #7
Being forthcoming about his health isn't really something we can count on. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #9
"..health is too fragile." +1 oasis Mar 2020 #11
on senator.gov you can be updated about work on the pending bill package.heres 3/20,2020 Sunlei Mar 2020 #27
That's all very well and good, but talk is cheap. He has to be physically in the Senate The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #32
He votes with the D party when the vote is _needed_ for a count. Sunlei Mar 2020 #37
Senators are supposed to have their asses in their chairs in the Senate. That's their job. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #39
Because of corona virus some things will change. Hopefully not for too long. Sunlei Mar 2020 #49
Like I said, talk is cheap. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #51
I say it's never cheap. "Real isn't how you are made," said the Skin Horse. Sunlei Mar 2020 #81
Did he still earn his full pay even though he didn't vote? George II Mar 2020 #54
why show up to nominate trumps people? Sunlei Mar 2020 #62
But his claim over the years, when it was pointed out that Vermont doesn't have "M4A" or.... George II Mar 2020 #71
He votes with the D party in the Federal government. Sunlei Mar 2020 #74
Yes he does, except for when he doesn't. But you said.... George II Mar 2020 #75
He 'gets shit done' in both, his _votes_ are in the Federal government. Sunlei Mar 2020 #78
But less than 40% of the time. thucythucy Mar 2020 #83
you're incorrect. Our party works closely with the d party leader, ALL always vote when needed. Sunlei Mar 2020 #94
"Our party works closely withh the d party leader.." thucythucy Mar 2020 #100
See post #54. ahoysrcsm Mar 2020 #93
Three days ago...I posted Sen. Warren at the Senate working her heart out but Sanders Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #77
Sen. Warren has been stellar through this! mcar Mar 2020 #88
Keep a safe distance! R Paul has corona & so does Senator Amy Klobuchars husband! Sunlei Mar 2020 #10
Speaking of Rand Paul BidenBacker Mar 2020 #12
Pauls a stupid man, he was exposed 3 weeks ago, told to self isolate but he ignored that. Sunlei Mar 2020 #18
Wow BidenBacker Mar 2020 #19
Went in the gym and pool True Blue American Mar 2020 #29
very worried about anyone who smoozed at the same locations where Sen. Amy Klobuchar was Sunlei Mar 2020 #35
I thought the gym and pool were closed. Apparently not. True Blue American Mar 2020 #36
Not the gym and pool I'm worried about. Amy & Husband spent much time last 2 weeks Sunlei Mar 2020 #40
Most of them use both. True Blue American Mar 2020 #43
Amy's campaign has been over for more than two weeks. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #69
It's been more than two weeks since she withdrew (March 2), and The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #42
yes, 2 weeks apart so hope she's safe & he gets well. Amys 3/23 statement about her husband Sunlei Mar 2020 #46
Sen Klobuchar and her husband have been apart for 2 weeks mcar Mar 2020 #89
His type of doctor has been largely LSFL Mar 2020 #67
Heard a pundit say True Blue American Mar 2020 #28
He should be self-isolating, per the CDC "requirement". OilemFirchen Mar 2020 #15
People skillz! He has them not! NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #13
"Stand further back... further... further...in fact, just GET OFF MY LAWN!" FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #14
Wish this site had likes BidenBacker Mar 2020 #16
Thanks. And welcome to DU. If I've already welcomed you and just, um, forgot, well... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #24
Trump's popularity # rising... magicarpet Mar 2020 #47
Andy, magicarpet Mar 2020 #50
Ease up a little, mc BidenBacker Mar 2020 #52
You want to roll around on the floor in laughter,... magicarpet Mar 2020 #60
And apparently you want to BidenBacker Mar 2020 #68
In no way shape or form am I calling you out... magicarpet Mar 2020 #73
Wow, let's not get too paranoid here, okay? BidenBacker Mar 2020 #82
Thank you StarfishSaver Mar 2020 #87
And a couple other things to consider while I'm thinking about it BidenBacker Mar 2020 #84
He's not 90. Sanders is 78, Biden is 77 and the republicans patsy president is 73. Sunlei Mar 2020 #56
Oops,.. I meant 80. magicarpet Mar 2020 #64
Ooh, the threat! mcar Mar 2020 #90
Did he answer the question because I would like an answer. LizBeth Mar 2020 #17
... NCProgressive Mar 2020 #22
... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #25
LOL! murielm99 Mar 2020 #30
Well you should True Blue American Mar 2020 #33
How do you think Barry BidenBacker Mar 2020 #38
Loll! Anon-C Mar 2020 #101
It's good for our politicians to model proper social distancing. Certainly better than the sardine- diva77 Mar 2020 #41
Depends on how True Blue American Mar 2020 #45
It's possible he was worried about spreading the virus TO the reporter diva77 Mar 2020 #65
Yeah right... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #79
So What Was His Answer To The Question? Me. Mar 2020 #61
Haha haha! What a loon SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #53
No Problem, Bernie Rube Icon Mar 2020 #55
I remember when he said the same thing to his wife in 2016 frazzled Mar 2020 #57
I had Rebl2 Mar 2020 #66
Captured on video frazzled Mar 2020 #72
I Thnk He Should Stand Away From Us Me. Mar 2020 #59
Well in all fairness, I'd say the same to him. William769 Mar 2020 #70
Bernie's new campaign song zackymilly Mar 2020 #85
Senator Sanders is in for what we in the South call a Blue_true Mar 2020 #91
Dr. McCoy runs the polling numbers: ucrdem Mar 2020 #95
Well Perhaps musicman65 Mar 2020 #97
Gladly. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #98
Deal! DarthDem Mar 2020 #102
It's like bernie doing larry doing bernie. Mosby Mar 2020 #104
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. Not.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:05 PM
Mar 2020

I do not like bossy people who order others around.

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BeyondGeography

(40,015 posts)
58. All these people who looked at Bernie and saw a President
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:10 PM
Mar 2020

Never understood it.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
92. It's beyond comprehension for me.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:43 PM
Mar 2020
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secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. As a senior myself, I don't blame him for saying this.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:40 PM
Mar 2020
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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
4. There's a way to say things
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:42 PM
Mar 2020

This isn't it.

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BeyondGeography

(40,015 posts)
5. That's his specialty actually
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:44 PM
Mar 2020
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Rebl2

(14,715 posts)
63. Yes he
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:19 PM
Mar 2020

reminds me of the old grouchy neighbor who yells at people to get off his lawn.

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mcar

(43,512 posts)
86. I figured you'd get replies like this
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:35 PM
Mar 2020

You answered it just right. There are appropriate ways to speak to people. That wasn't one of them.

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totodeinhere

(13,313 posts)
96. Yes it is the way to say it. We need to be perfectly blunt about this.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:35 PM
Mar 2020

Anybody who stands closer than six feet from Bernie or anyone else Bernie's age, including Joe Biden, is risking their life.

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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
99. If this is such a problem for him that he has to bark "Stay away from me" at people in his midst
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:33 PM
Mar 2020

perhaps he should find a different, less dangerous and less frightening line of work.

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ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
103. Yeah maybe a 6 day break from the media and the public
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 10:35 PM
Mar 2020

would do the trick?

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. I do not blame him for wanting to be safe. I take issue with how abrupt and bossy he is.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020
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Fla Dem

(25,698 posts)
44. Condescending I believe the word is.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:46 PM
Mar 2020
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
48. Exactly.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:56 PM
Mar 2020

That's not the temperament or demeanor that we need in someone who wants to become our party's nominee. It's just not a good look.

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spooky3

(36,214 posts)
76. And not answering the question. nt
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:58 PM
Mar 2020
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
80. I guess that's pretty much a given any more.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:03 PM
Mar 2020
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Orrex

(64,113 posts)
3. No doubt the evil DNC set up the whole thing to embarrass Sanders.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:40 PM
Mar 2020
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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
8. DNC Chairman Perez should make him an offer
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:51 PM
Mar 2020

"Stay away from us and we'll stay away from you!"

I don't blame Bernie for wanting to follow CDC recommendations (not "requirements" as he said)...it's the wise thing to do. But he coulda been a little more polite or diplomatic about it. Shades of what it woulda been like with him in the White House making enemies left and right...literally and politically.

Maybe reality is starting to set in a little and he's getting a bit testy.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
31. That must be a pre-virus video
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:24 PM
Mar 2020

She's laughing into her hand and not her elbow.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
34. I think you're right.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:27 PM
Mar 2020
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treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. No answer to the question either
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:46 PM
Mar 2020

I think Biden would have gotten a lot of criticism for doing that.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,903 posts)
7. I keep wondering whether he's got symptoms or a positive test.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:47 PM
Mar 2020

Why else would he be staying away from the Senate when they're working on major relief legislation? If he does, he really ought to be honest about it instead of just holing up in Vermont and telling people to stay away from him. Or maybe he's afraid of getting it because of his age and heart condition. If that's the case he shouldn't be running for president - his health is too fragile.

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MrsCoffee

(5,822 posts)
9. Being forthcoming about his health isn't really something we can count on.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:52 PM
Mar 2020

Shame that has to be said, but his lack of transparency will come back to bite him in the ass.

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oasis

(51,705 posts)
11. "..health is too fragile." +1
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:54 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
27. on senator.gov you can be updated about work on the pending bill package.heres 3/20,2020
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:18 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-pressley-warren-davis-lead-165-members-of-congress-in-calling-for-billions-in-community-health-center-funding-to-tackle-coronavirus-pandemic

WASHINGTON, March 20 — Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.), Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), and Rep. Danny K. Davis (D-Ill.) led 165 lawmakers in calling on House and Senate leadership to dramatically increase long-term funding for community health centers (CHCs) in the third coronavirus legislative package being drafted by Congress to address the immediate economic and public-health emergency needs caused by the pandemic.

“Given the severity of the COVID-19 outbreak,” the members of Congress write, CHCs should receive “the highest levels of funding, consistent with or surpassing those outlined in the Community Health Center and Primary Care Workforce Expansion Act.” That legislation, sponsored by Sanders and Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), provides CHCs with 10 percent annual funding increases over five years—nearly $7 billion more than flat-funding proposals being considered—thereby expanding care to 10 million more Americans by comparison.

“Community Health Centers are at the frontlines of this crisis,” the members of Congress note, “providing medical care and testing for over 29 million low-income people. It is of utmost importance that CHCs receive the long-term and robust resources necessary to meet the needs of our nation’s most vulnerable communities, especially as they work to test and care for patients during this unprecedented public health crisis.”

CHCs—a network of 1,400 facilities in all 50 states and U.S. territories—provide medical, dental, and mental health care, substance-abuse treatment, and low-cost prescription drugs for 29 million people. Their patients disproportionately include “communities of color, with African Americans making up more than one in five CHC patients,” the members of Congress added.

In addition to calling for 10-percent annual increases to community health centers in the third COVID-19 response package, the lawmakers stressed the need to assist medical professionals to tackle the pandemic, calling for increased funding for the National Health Service Corps and the Teaching Health Center Graduate Medical Education (THCGME) Program, which provide scholarships and loan repayment to 10,000 clinicians and trains residents in community-based ambulatory patient care centers""""


REF https://www.sanders.senate.gov/ dry reading but the actual work in progress bill is there in PDF form


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The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,903 posts)
32. That's all very well and good, but talk is cheap. He has to be physically in the Senate
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:24 PM
Mar 2020

in order to vote, at least until they change the rules (if they do). Nothing happens without actual votes. Get the hell out of Vermont, Bernie, and do all of your job.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
37. He votes with the D party when the vote is _needed_ for a count.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:32 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,903 posts)
39. Senators are supposed to have their asses in their chairs in the Senate. That's their job.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:34 PM
Mar 2020

Not pontificating from their living rooms. If bloviating on a podcast was the main part of their job why do we even need a Capitol building?

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
49. Because of corona virus some things will change. Hopefully not for too long.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:59 PM
Mar 2020

Here's Sanders contact information just in case you need to yell at him to get his ass in the chair.


First and foremost, as we face a national emergency, I want all Vermonters to know that my office is here to help. Please do not hesitate to be in touch if we can be of assistance on our website or by phone: 1-802-862-0697. Please know that our call volume may be higher than normal and you may have to leave a message during business hours. My staff will be checking messages regularly and will call you back as soon as possible.

Right now, be assured that I am doing everything in my power in the U.S. Senate to correct the completely unacceptable federal response to this crisis. We must mobilize every tool and resource available to our government in order to tackle this unprecedented health-related and economic challenge. My offices continue to be in communication with Vermont’s state, local and health authorities on specific issues impacting Vermonters.

In my view, we must prioritize the health and economic wellbeing of Vermont’s working families—particularly our most vulnerable community members—instead of handing over another welfare check or no-strings-attached bailout to corporate CEOs and bankers on Wall Street.

Working people must have the income, healthy food, safe shelter and child care, workplace leave, and cost-free medical testing and treatment that they need right now. This means focusing on the needs of Vermont’s seniors, children, community members with compromised immune systems and chronic illness, those experiencing or at risk of homelessness, as well as students, homeowners and renters, workers, and small-business owners.

At this crucial moment for public health, I also urge Vermonters to practice commonsense safety precautions to curb the spread of the coronavirus, prevent unnecessary sickness and death, and stop our health care system from being overwhelmed. That includes good hand washing, maintaining safe distance from others, avoiding large crowds, and staying at home as much as possible.

Below is information regarding coronavirus, state and local updates, and travel advisories:

•General Information - Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
•Status in Vermont - Vermont Department of Health
•Travel Information - Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
•Travel Information (2) - U.S. Department of State - Bureau of Consular Affairs
•UVMHN - University of Vermont Health Network
•Coronavirus Scams - Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
•News and Updates - Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
•Country Specific Information - U.S. Department of State - Bureau of Consular Affairs
•Smart Traveller Enrollment Program - It is recommended that anyone abroad register their travel plans on this website so they will get specific notices while travelling (STEP)

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,903 posts)
51. Like I said, talk is cheap.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:00 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
81. I say it's never cheap. "Real isn't how you are made," said the Skin Horse.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:10 PM
Mar 2020
“Real isn't how you are made,” said the Skin Horse. “ It's a thing that happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
54. Did he still earn his full pay even though he didn't vote?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:05 PM
Mar 2020

BTW, you'll find this interesting:

Sen. Sanders has missed 61.6% of votes in the 116th Congress (2019-20). This makes him the 1st most absent member of the Senate.


https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/S000033/votes-missed/116

Also, from June 28 through January 8 he missed 244 consecutive votes. That's 6-1/2 MONTHS during which he didn't cast a single vote in the Senate, didn't even step foot in the Senate chamber. That spanned $92,807 worth of salary that he collected for not showing up a single day.

If any of us tried that we'd get fired within a week or two.

There was no risk of contact with COVID-19 during that time.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
62. why show up to nominate trumps people?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:18 PM
Mar 2020

better to work within your own state to get shit done while the republicans clown show dominated the government voting.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
71. But his claim over the years, when it was pointed out that Vermont doesn't have "M4A" or....
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:42 PM
Mar 2020

...a $15 per hour minimum wage, is "I'm a Senator, I can't influence state laws".

Which is it?

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
74. He votes with the D party in the Federal government.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:47 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
75. Yes he does, except for when he doesn't. But you said....
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:55 PM
Mar 2020

...."better to work within your own state to get shit done"

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
78. He 'gets shit done' in both, his _votes_ are in the Federal government.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:01 PM
Mar 2020

By the way I love both Biden and Sanders so get off my back please!!

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thucythucy

(8,742 posts)
83. But less than 40% of the time.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:21 PM
Mar 2020

The rest of the time he doesn't vote at all.

I had no idea he was such an absentee legislator.

If the job bores him maybe he should give way to someone who might actually work to get things done.

If I lived in Vermont I'd be furious at his lackadaisical attitude toward the job he was elected to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
94. you're incorrect. Our party works closely with the d party leader, ALL always vote when needed.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:08 AM
Mar 2020

check the voting history of ALL of our elected and here check the records of all republicans as well and you can even go back in time and see how Biden voted.

Both Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are ON OUR SIDE, please quit the circular firing squad, it's very divisive to the D party voters.

BYW, love Cory Booker, he hasn't been there very long but he sure would make an excellent VP or future president. Personally I think it was a mistake for Joe Biden to exclude half the choices for VP so early in the primary.

Bernard Sanders and Cory Booker are from the same party and agreed on 91 percent of votes in the 115th Congress

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/S000033-bernard-sanders/compare-votes/B001288-cory-booker/115

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

thucythucy

(8,742 posts)
100. "Our party works closely withh the d party leader.."
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:23 PM
Mar 2020

What or who exactly is "our party?" Is "our party" different from the Democratic Party"? If Bernie is a leader of some party other than the Democratic Party, why the Hell is he running to be the Democratic candidate for president?

So Bernie votes with us the majority of the times he votes. But he very often doesn't vote at all, which is a dereliction of his duty as a senator.

I voted for and supported Bernie in the 2016 primary, but now I view that as a mistake. This latest bullshit--sending his surrogates out to accuse Vice President Biden of being a pedophile, for Christ's sake!--is beyond the last straw.

Either Bernie is a stealth Socialist Workers Party stooge (he was an elector for them in the '70s) or he's a Russian troll, or he's a deluded narcissist who sees himself as the end all be all of American politics. Whatever the case, he is now doing way more harm than good--and I wonder now, given his (lack of a) record as a legislator, if he's ever done much good at all.

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ahoysrcsm

(1,107 posts)
93. See post #54.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 04:05 AM
Mar 2020

He did not vote with the Democratic party for 6.5 months.

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Demsrule86

(71,023 posts)
77. Three days ago...I posted Sen. Warren at the Senate working her heart out but Sanders
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:01 PM
Mar 2020

but not Sanders.

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mcar

(43,512 posts)
88. Sen. Warren has been stellar through this!
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:37 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
10. Keep a safe distance! R Paul has corona & so does Senator Amy Klobuchars husband!
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:54 PM
Mar 2020

This is serious shit, all our elected and presidential candidates need to limit exposure.

There's a very high chance many of the people who hang around the white house like reporters are infected or their gear is contaminated. The white house should really close to people and start to do all interviews online.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
12. Speaking of Rand Paul
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:57 PM
Mar 2020
Ron Paul Suggested Coronavirus Was a ‘Big Hoax.’ Then His Son Caught It

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/ron-paul-suggested-coronavirus-was-a-big-hoax-then-his-son-caught-it/

Libertarian stupidity can be a dangerous thing.
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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
18. Pauls a stupid man, he was exposed 3 weeks ago, told to self isolate but he ignored that.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:03 PM
Mar 2020

He went to group lunches, used the gyms and just spread corona around for the past week or so. In the white house! Now its going to be a wait a couple weeks to see who will become sick.

Senator Amys husband is on oxygen, he's very sick.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
19. Wow
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:05 PM
Mar 2020

I hadn't heard he had a heads up and still did all that.

Very reckless and irresponsible behavior on his part. But we already knew that from all the votes he's made over the years.

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True Blue American

(18,166 posts)
29. Went in the gym and pool
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:22 PM
Mar 2020

While waiting on the results of his test! Some Doctor!

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
35. very worried about anyone who smoozed at the same locations where Sen. Amy Klobuchar was
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:27 PM
Mar 2020

was with her husband.

I think over the next 30 or so days it's very possible many more will become sick.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

True Blue American

(18,166 posts)
36. I thought the gym and pool were closed. Apparently not.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:29 PM
Mar 2020
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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
40. Not the gym and pool I'm worried about. Amy & Husband spent much time last 2 weeks
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:35 PM
Mar 2020

at campaign sites.

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True Blue American

(18,166 posts)
43. Most of them use both.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:44 PM
Mar 2020

They could all be exposed.

I saw that Amy feels awful that she can not be with her husband. Hope and pray his case is mild.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,903 posts)
69. Amy's campaign has been over for more than two weeks.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:27 PM
Mar 2020
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(120,903 posts)
42. It's been more than two weeks since she withdrew (March 2), and
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:42 PM
Mar 2020

since then, because she's not campaigning, just doing her job being present and voting in the Senate, I don't think her husband has been out in public with her.

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
46. yes, 2 weeks apart so hope she's safe & he gets well. Amys 3/23 statement about her husband
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:48 PM
Mar 2020
I have news that many Americans are facing right now: my husband John has the coronavirus. We just got the test results at 7 a.m. this morning. While I cannot see him and he is of course cut off from all visitors, our daughter Abigail and I are constantly calling and texting and emailing. We love him very much and pray for his recovery. He is exhausted and sick but a very strong and resilient person.

John started to feel sick when I was in Minnesota and he was in Washington D.C. and like so many others who have had the disease, he thought it was just a cold. Yet he immediately quarantined himself just in case and stopped going to his job teaching in Baltimore. He kept having a temperature and a bad, bad cough and when he started coughing up blood he got a test and a chest X-ray and they checked him into a hospital in Virginia because of a variety of things including very low oxygen levels which haven’t really improved. He now has pneumonia and is on oxygen but not a ventilator.




https://medium.com/@Amy_Klobuchar/statement-from-senator-amy-klobuchar-c4195302844
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mcar

(43,512 posts)
89. Sen Klobuchar and her husband have been apart for 2 weeks
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:39 PM
Mar 2020

according to her statement. She would not put her colleagues and staffers in danger.

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LSFL

(1,112 posts)
67. His type of doctor has been largely
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:25 PM
Mar 2020

Replaced by machines and bored college students.

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True Blue American

(18,166 posts)
28. Heard a pundit say
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

Any Doctor who was taking a test for the virus yet goes in the gym and pool is not, well, you finish it.

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OilemFirchen

(7,161 posts)
15. He should be self-isolating, per the CDC "requirement".
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:02 PM
Mar 2020

Did the reporter burst into his home?

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Happy Hoosier

(8,405 posts)
13. People skillz! He has them not! NT
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:58 PM
Mar 2020
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FailureToCommunicate

(14,325 posts)
14. "Stand further back... further... further...in fact, just GET OFF MY LAWN!"
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:59 PM
Mar 2020
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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
16. Wish this site had likes
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:02 PM
Mar 2020

because that post woulda got one.

Some of you guys would put Henny Youngman or Rodney Dangerfield to shame with your one-liners.

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FailureToCommunicate

(14,325 posts)
24. Thanks. And welcome to DU. If I've already welcomed you and just, um, forgot, well...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:07 PM
Mar 2020

my excuse is I sometimes forget things 'cause I am older than dirt.

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magicarpet

(16,532 posts)
47. Trump's popularity # rising...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:53 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie is almost 90 years old with heart problem, that puts him right on the top danger zone for COVID-19.

He might be kind of edgy about now being out in public.

Going all Andrew Dice Clay on Bernie right not might not help party unity. We need Bernie's voters to put a Dem in the White House, we need Bernie's voters to capture the senate away from Mitch, we likely need Bernie's voters to retain the House.

Trump is a conman who knows how to manipulate and massage public sentiment especially his voter base. His e re-election team are slime ball con men extraordinaire.

Do not alienate Bernie's voters for the naked excitement or thrills derived for having done so, because the ultimate final result is a second four year term for Trump in the White House. Will the entertainment be worth it as we witness our Democracy fade and final crumble as Trump style Fascism steps to the forefront and gains solid footing ?

Please don't allow that or do that to each other. The giggles, the thrills, and cheap shots against Bernie could prove very costly and detrimental to our political party. We must focus upon mending the chasms, unifying the party, and creating a force so strong and overwhelming Team Trump is ground to dust.

Back off on the Andrew Dice Clay routine - there is important work to be done - in house fighting gets us nowhere except way behind the opposition.

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Undecided
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
52. Ease up a little, mc
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:01 PM
Mar 2020

I can make a magnanimous post from time to time. See for yourself from just this morning...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=682697

I also believe there's no harm in cracking wise once in a while. Some of the anti-Bernie posts here are a little over-the-top IMO but that's up to them and not my place to chastise or admonish them. We need to laugh a little once in a while when there's so much going on to cry about.

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magicarpet

(16,532 posts)
60. You want to roll around on the floor in laughter,...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:16 PM
Mar 2020

... make trDumpie your bull's eye.

The more we tear down Bernie the more we alienate his voters/supporters. If we injure them relentlessly they will write in another or just sit this election out. Let's not needlessly piss them off.

Without these voters (Bernie's) firmly in the Demo Party camp the percentages vastly favor Trump winning the 2020 election and sailing into his second term.

That is frightening.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
68. And apparently you want to
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:25 PM
Mar 2020

kiss Bernie's supporters' asses who go around saying Biden is just like Trump or that Joe is senile. If that's what it takes to get their vote than count me out but feel free to pucker up and have at it. The vast majority of them are not that way and will vote for Biden if they know what's good for them. The ones who won't are not needed, BTW.

Funny you should call me out when there are 1000s of posts that are far worse than anything I've ever said. Tread carefully for you might discover you picked the wrong mark.

Laugh at whatever you want and I and others will do the same. But I appreciate your input.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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magicarpet

(16,532 posts)
73. In no way shape or form am I calling you out...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:44 PM
Mar 2020

My comments were directed to the general population of DU and certainly not specifically or directly to you until I responded to your comment to me. I made a generate statement that trashing Bernie
might prove very detrimental to us if we seek to end Trump's Fascist Junta.

########
Funny you should call me out when there are 1000s of posts that are far worse than anything I've ever said. Tread carefully for you might discover you picked the wrong mark.
#########

Is this an attempt to deliver some sort of an obscure threat... really ?

Funny you should call me out when there are 1000s of posts that are far worse than anything I've ever said. Tread carefully for you might discover you picked the wrong mark.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
82. Wow, let's not get too paranoid here, okay?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:11 PM
Mar 2020

It was in no way a "threat"...just that I can defend myself if and when necessary. I may still be relatively new to this forum but I am a seasoned veteran of others and have the scars to prove it.

If we can get serious for a minute, I want as many of Bernie's people on board...up to a point. But you must realize that there is a certain fraction of them who will NEVER be placated no matter how hard Joe or we try...

Sanders Supporters Have No Plans to Relent on Biden as Nominee

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-19/sanders-supporters-have-no-plans-to-relent-on-biden-as-nominee

Apparently these younger anarchist folks can't count and presume their political clout to be FAR greater than it really is. In reality, there are far greater numbers in the middle, from slightly right-of-center to slightly left. For every Sanders' supporter Joe wins over by conceding too much he'll lose 2 or 3 or more in that densely populated middle. That's a fool's errand. The last thing Biden needs to do is turn a winning message that appeals to a broad swath and majority of Americans and adopt a losing one that can't even win the Democratic nomination.

Besides, unless I got my history wrong it's the LOSER who is typically the one who is supposed to compromise more than the WINNER. Maybe Bernie Bros just haven't opened up the memo yet...probably because they're too busy sending out bullshit attack Tweets about Joe. The Democratic Party should not permit itself to be held hostage by a group that numbers perhaps 2 or 3% of the total electorate. If Joe stays the course or fairly close to it he won't need such small numbers when the mainstream kicks in come November.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
84. And a couple other things to consider while I'm thinking about it
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

First, a lot of these younger folks making their bold demands didn't even bother to show up to vote for Bernie himself...what makes anybody seriously think they'll do so for Joe even if he stupidly gave them everything they asked for? He could read Sanders' speeches word for word and some would still reject him and turn up missing in November just like they did in February and March. Joe tacks too far left and all he'll do is earn a vote that never gets cast while losing many he coulda had for real.

Secondly, I figure progressives only number around 15-20% tops of the total electorate...with a much smaller fraction of that Sanders extremists who are causing most of the friction right now. The problem (besides that not being a very large percentage) is that they are not uniformly scattered throughout the nation. They're mostly heavily clustered on the East Coast in states like NY & MA and on the West Coast in CA & WA. Maybe a few central states like WI and perhaps IL. They don't matter a lick if they don't show up to vote for Joe because they're all pissed off about losing the primaries...so Joe carries those states with a lower winning percentage but still a solid victory...he still banks the electoral votes. But I got a newsflash for people...there just ain't than many progressives here in AZ or OH or NC or FL...states that Sanders woulda likely got trounced in that Joe has an excellent chance of winning if he just stays a little more moderate. He goes too far left and you can probably kiss all them crucial purple swing states goodbye.

If Biden wants this to be a closer election than it really needs to be, then he can kiss Bernie's ass and that oughta just about do it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
56. He's not 90. Sanders is 78, Biden is 77 and the republicans patsy president is 73.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:09 PM
Mar 2020
*may they all live long and prosper, even trump so he can face the civil courts*
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magicarpet

(16,532 posts)
64. Oops,.. I meant 80.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:22 PM
Mar 2020

Sorry my laptop crashed. I am trying to do this off a dumbsmart phone. I have fat fingers.

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mcar

(43,512 posts)
90. Ooh, the threat!
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:41 PM
Mar 2020

"Be nice to me or I won't voted Democratic." That is an immature, selfish threat that some Sanders supporters make.

Do they not care about this country?

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LizBeth

(10,823 posts)
17. Did he answer the question because I would like an answer.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:03 PM
Mar 2020
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. ...
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:08 PM
Mar 2020

Ahh-ah-ah-ah... my pants are too tight! My pants are too tight!

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True Blue American

(18,166 posts)
33. Well you should
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:24 PM
Mar 2020

Have listened to the poster who said since the shutdown he found pants not essential!

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
38. How do you think Barry
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:34 PM
Mar 2020

hit all them high notes?

Not ashamed to admit I loved those guys in college. Some of their pre-disco stuff too.

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diva77

(7,880 posts)
41. It's good for our politicians to model proper social distancing. Certainly better than the sardine-
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:38 PM
Mar 2020

packed pressers from rethugs. And to frame what Sanders said here as something negative is IMHO Bernie Bashing at its finest.

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True Blue American

(18,166 posts)
45. Depends on how
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:47 PM
Mar 2020

He said it. If he asked politely no problem. But he has a reputation as a BahHumbug type!

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diva77

(7,880 posts)
65. It's possible he was worried about spreading the virus TO the reporter
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:24 PM
Mar 2020

I'm done with this exchange.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
61. So What Was His Answer To The Question?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020
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Rube Icon

(78 posts)
55. No Problem, Bernie
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:06 PM
Mar 2020

I stayed away from your non-Dem ass four years ago, and I did it this year, too!

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frazzled

(18,402 posts)
57. I remember when he said the same thing to his wife in 2016
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:10 PM
Mar 2020

It was the night he won the Wisconsin primary, and she was standing on the stage, glowing beside him as the supporters cheered. He brushed her away and said something like, "don't stand next to me."

It left an indelible mark on my perception of him.

I can understand not wanting a reporter to stand too close during this time of enforced social distancing. But I'll never understand saying that to a spouse. If mine ever did that, he would no longer be my spouse.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Rebl2

(14,715 posts)
66. I had
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:25 PM
Mar 2020

never heard that story. What a miserable man.

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frazzled

(18,402 posts)
72. Captured on video
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:43 PM
Mar 2020
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
59. I Thnk He Should Stand Away From Us
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:16 PM
Mar 2020
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William769

(55,830 posts)
70. Well in all fairness, I'd say the same to him.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:35 PM
Mar 2020
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zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
85. Bernie's new campaign song
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:35 PM
Mar 2020
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
91. Senator Sanders is in for what we in the South call a
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 07:38 PM
Mar 2020

"good ole stumpin" when primaries resume. Only those that have blinders on and earplugs in can respect how he is behaving.

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Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,703 posts)
95. Dr. McCoy runs the polling numbers:
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:28 AM
Mar 2020




note: All persons shown are fictitious. Any relation to actual persons is purely coincidental.
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DarthDem

(5,364 posts)
102. Deal!
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:52 PM
Mar 2020

You first, Senator.
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Mosby

(17,477 posts)
104. It's like bernie doing larry doing bernie.
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 10:55 PM
Mar 2020


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